Ron Paul Twitter Account

[pcosmar]

Does he think I should die by the sword?

Do you even have any understanding of what those scriptures are?

If you did you would not even ask that.

 

[Reece]

Unfortunately as a veteran I am getting a feeling I have been used. Is this how he really feels about veterans when he doesn't have to win an elected office? Does he think I should die by the sword?

He wrote this in 2003, when he had no plan to run for president, and it was highly unlikely he was going to lose his seat: http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul142.html

And, as others have said, his Facebook post cleared up some possible confusion.

In any case, I don't think "living by the sword" would refer to all veterans. There is a difference with using a "sword" in your life and living by the sword, I think. If he meant any veteran, he would have had to include himself, which I highly doubt.

 

[LibertyEagle]

What I do know is some of his rabid support base has changed his mind about issues, DADT being one. It doesn't take too much browsing around here to realized just how badly veterans are hated, has he come around to their thinking? He has no election to lose now. I don't agree with Rand either that anyone that wears or has worn the uniform is a hero. Heroes in uniform to me are only those the stepped abouve and beyond the call of duty at risk of life to save life whether it is your fellow soldier or someone on the other side. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Thompson,_Jr.

Klamath, don't judge Ron's support base by this forum. It is not a good indicator anymore. Ron doesn't hate people who served. It angers him that they are being used as fodder. Remember back when he asked, wasn't it Aimee Allen to sing the Universal soldier? It sounded to me like he wished so many young people would stop signing up to fight these wars that have nothing to do with our national defense.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRnYVU4ZVWQ

I also agree with you about what a hero is. That is how most Americans used to define it.

 

[pcosmar]

Does he think I should die by the sword?

Do you even have any understanding of what those scriptures are?

If you did you would not even ask that.

Yes I -Rep'ed that stupid question.

and with that you join the rest in my ignore list.

Fine,, I have no one on mine,, I like to keep track of the irritants on the board.

and yes,, I am a Veteran.

Have you ever even spoken with the man? I have,,
and beside that,, he was repeating Jesus Christ.. Put him on you ignore list as well,, if you haven't already.

 

[Stallheim]

he was repeating Jesus Christ.. Put him on you ignore list as well,, if you haven't already.

I love this!

 

[angelatc]

If it becomes relevant we can raise it. They weren't his top THREE donor groups for nothing.

Thanks. I hadn't thought of it, but that makes the tweet even more offensive. They gave him money to support his message, and in turn he said Jesus apparently thinks they deserve to die violently because they're in the military.

 

[sailingaway]

Thanks. I hadn't thought of it, but that makes the tweet even more offensive. They gave him money to support his message, and in turn he said Jesus apparently thinks they deserve to die violently because they're in the military.

Only if you spin what he said to say that, which he would never intend. And his history shows he would never intend that. He'd be wishing it upon himself, for one thing.

 

[angelatc]

Only if you spin what he said to say that, which he would never intend. And his history shows he would never intend that. He'd be wishing it upon himself, for one thing.

Well, I don't think I am spinning it. Or maybe I'm spinning it differently than others are. But standing alone, the tweet says exactly that. It isn't like Kyle was killed in combat, where the "...die by the sword" part would make sense.

 

[KingNothing]

Thanks. I hadn't thought of it, but that makes the tweet even more offensive. They gave him money to support his message, and in turn he said Jesus apparently thinks they deserve to die violently because they're in the military.

That isn't what Ron intended to say, which is why the tweet was so terrible. I don't find it offensive, I find it careless and stupid.

 

[sailingaway]

Well, I don't think I am spinning it. Or maybe I'm spinning it differently than others are. But standing alone, the tweet says exactly that. It isn't like Kyle was killed in combat, where the "...die by the sword" part would make sense.

I don't think it says that. It permits that interpretation, if you want it. It didn't have Ron's initials, but if it was him, I suspect it was a novice twitter user not used to the 140 character limit. He'd do better to send links to his longer facebook post that makes clearer his meaning.

 

[Wolfgang Bohringer]

Unfortunately as a veteran I am getting a feeling I have been used. Is this how he really feels about veterans when he doesn't have to win an elected office? Does he think I should die by the sword?

I think Ron Paul is a serious Christian and the most fundamental principle of Christianity is forgiveness.

So, I'll bet that if you've repented to the victims and families of the victims of your crimes and asked them to forgive you or offered to compensate them in some way for the damage you've caused them, that Ron would pray that your victims would respond mercifully rather than retaliating with their own swords.

I think Ron is also a Constitutionalist. So, I'll bet that if--as part of your making things right with those you've harmed--you dedicated yourself to working toward the restoration of Article I Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution which permits only temporary armies to be raised in extreme circumstances as well as working toward the restoration of the 2nd Amendment to the federal constitution as well as the bills of rights of nearly all the states which prohibit permanent government armies such as the organization that you were part of, then Ron would even more enthusiastically pray that your victims forgive you.

 

[CaptLouAlbano]

I don't think it says that. It permits that interpretation, if you want it. It didn't have Ron's initials, but if it was him, I suspect it was a novice twitter user not used to the 140 character limit. He'd do better to send links to his longer facebook post that makes clearer his meaning.

I am sorry, but that is a piss poor excuse. He is a professional with a staff. The minute he hits that enter button whatever he types goes out to 400,000 people. If he does not understand how to use the service, then he should be instructed fully on how to do so.

 

[klamath]

I don't think it says that. It permits that interpretation, if you want it. It didn't have Ron's initials, but if it was him, I suspect it was a novice twitter user not used to the 140 character limit. He'd do better to send links to his longer facebook post that makes clearer his meaning.

Why are you having to say this? Why hasn't Ron stepped foward and said "I screwed up with this newfangled twitter thingy It cut off a larger message I was trying to convey."? Is one his gut personal belief and the facebook comment his political statement?

 

[sailingaway]

I am sorry, but that is a piss poor excuse. He is a professional with a staff. The minute he hits that enter button whatever he types goes out to 400,000 people. If he does not understand how to use the service, then he should be instructed fully on how to do so.

Yeah, but you didn't like him before this tweet.

 

[CaptLouAlbano]

Yeah, but you didn't like him before this tweet.

Why because I don't worship the ground he walks on and try to come up with excuses for his errors? I endorsed him, donated to him and worked my precinct or him. I don't "adore" him like you do, but I don't adore any politician. I save adoration for my wife, kids and grandkids.

 

[sailingaway]

Why because I don't worship the ground he walks on and try to come up with excuses for his errors? I endorsed him, donated to him and worked my precinct or him. I don't "adore" him like you do, but I don't adore any politician. I save adoration for my wife, kids and grandkids.

Your posts here make that information surprising.

 

[angelatc]

I don't think it says that. It permits that interpretation, if you want it. It didn't have Ron's initials, but if it was him, I suspect it was a novice twitter user not used to the 140 character limit. He'd do better to send links to his longer facebook post that makes clearer his meaning.

I just posted this in a private email. I'm not interested in playing the "what he really meant to say!" game this time. Even with the best possible spin, the timing on this could not have been any more crass. I know that the internet isn't actually considered polite society, and will probably actually bring about the end of it, but at this juncture people over the age of 30 know that it's simply rude to speak ill of the recently dead.

We were justifiably pissed that the liberals jumped all over Sandy Hook to push an agenda forward before the damned bodies were cold, but now we have Ron Paul blathering about PTSD while blaming a dead soldier (sailor, maybe?) for getting shot in the back because he took a troubled friend to a shooting range.

I'm not going to rail on about this, because I don't want to get banned, but this is indefensible to all but the blind loyalists. I'll be taking my bumper sticker off my car as soon as it warms up enough.

Hail the message, but the messenger is past his prime.

 

[pcosmar]

Well, I don't think I am spinning it. Or maybe I'm spinning it differently than others are. But standing alone, the tweet says exactly that. It isn't like Kyle was killed in combat, where the "...die by the sword" part would make sense.

It isn't wishing anything. it is simply a statement, a spiritual principle.

Like Sowing and Reaping. Sow good, and reap good, Sow evil and you will reap evil.. It is what grows from the seed you sow.

Or stating the principle of gravity,, if you walk off a cliff you will fall.
No wishing,, no intent.. simply a statement.

 

[klamath]

I think Ron Paul is a serious Christian and the most fundamental principle of Christianity is forgiveness.

So, I'll bet that if you've repented to the victims and families of the victims of your crimes and asked them to forgive you or offered to compensate them in some way for the damage you've caused them, that Ron would pray that your victims would respond mercifully rather than retaliating with their own swords.

I think Ron is also a Constitutionalist. So, I'll bet that if--as part of your making things right with those you've harmed--you dedicated yourself to working toward the restoration of Article I Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution which permits only temporary armies to be raised in extreme circumstances as well as working toward the restoration of the 2nd Amendment to the federal constitution as well as the bills of rights of nearly all the states which prohibit permanent government armies such as the organization that you were part of, then Ron would even more enthusiastically pray that your victims forgive you.

Honestly FUCK you. Most of my time in the military was dedicated to saving lives.

 

[angelatc]

Yeah, but you didn't like him before this tweet.

OK, maybe I do want to get banned. Sailing, that's bordering on the sycophantic. Any time the conversation has to turn to the poster, instead of the post, you've lost objectivity.