Ron Paul Twitter Account

[phill4paul]

I hate putting people in groups, but it seems like it's always the anarchists that are the smartasses on the forum.

They always say the most elitist shit I have ever read. Yes, you take the cake. Even over a prick like Bill Maher.

The vile things you anarchists are saying is just disgusting.

I know I am going to get slammed for these comments, but frankly, I don't give a rats ass. You have a right to your opinion/views and you have the right to say/type them.

That doesn't justify your comments. Nor does it help this movement.

I'm not an anarchist and I have no fucking idea what you are on about.

 

[kcchiefs6465]

I was kind of taken aback by some of the statements before people posted excerpts, myself. I still would have respect for his family for the moment, but I understand the dislike, at least.

I think anyone who was not already familiar with him felt the same way. There was a few threads about him a while back when he was doing interviews about his book. I am sure Ron Paul has seen him previously should he have written that tweet. I feel a lot more sympathy for the soldiers coming home who realize what they have done and the lies they were told who can't cope anymore and take their own lives. I hope people see it is not a lack of empathy for the troops. (though I'm sure the MSM is going to chalk that tweet up to that being the case)

 

[EBounding]

The original tweet pretty much says "He got what was coming to him" with no mention of how a sensible foreign policy would have prevented it. Kyle sounds like a disturbing individual, but I don't see how making a personal statement about his death helps anything.

Paul isn't campaigning anymore though, so he can say whatever he wants. But it does make it harder for someone like me to defend his ideas when the people you want to persuade will just dismiss everything you say because he "hates the troops".

 

[sailingaway]

The original tweet pretty much says "He got what was coming to him" with no mention of how a sensible foreign policy would have prevented it. Kyle sounds like a disturbing individual, but I don't see how making a personal statement about his death helps anything.

Paul isn't campaigning anymore though, so he can say whatever he wants. But it does make it harder for someone like me to defend his ideas when the people you want to persuade will just dismiss everything you say because he "hates the troops".

I disagree with the bolded part, but it could easily be taken by people who don't know him or don't like him as saying that.

I suspect IF he wrote it it was his fourth ever tweet, and he had to cut the softer parts. I'd refer people to his facebook. But it DIDN'T have his initials.

 

[pacodever]

The original tweet pretty much says "He got what was coming to him" with no mention of how a sensible foreign policy would have prevented it. Kyle sounds like a disturbing individual, but I don't see how making a personal statement about his death helps anything.

No it doesn't. I wouldn't even say it was referring to Chris Kyle specifically, but our foreign policy. Our foreign policy creates violent men who commit violent acts such as this. Both men were products of the wars.

Commonly, the expression is understood to mean, "You can expect to become a victim of whatever means you use to get what you want."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_by_the_sword,_die_by_the_sword

 

[EBounding]

No it doesn't. I wouldn't even say it was referring to Chris Kyle specifically, but our foreign policy. Our foreign policy creates violent men who commit violent acts such as this. Both men were products of the wars.

That was my initial thought at first actually. But that's not how other people (the people we need to persuade) see it.

 

[Reece]

I hate putting people in groups, but it seems like it's always the anarchists that are the smartasses on the forum.

They always say the most elitist shit I have ever read. Yes, you take the cake. Even over a prick like Bill Maher.

The vile things you anarchists are saying is just disgusting.

I know I am going to get slammed for these comments, but frankly, I don't give a rats ass. You have a right to your opinion/views and you have the right to say/type them.

That doesn't justify your comments. Nor does it help this movement.

Isn’t this technically a “vile comment” itself?

 

[mport1]

I'm guessing you yourself are not or never have been in the military. Nor do you have someone close to you who has served or is currently serving. I can tell by your comment.

One of my best friends is currently a SEAL...

Chris Kyle was a mass murderer and does not deserve anybody's respect. Because he and others put on uniforms that somehow absolves them of their crimes? Did he think he was "doing the right thing?" Sure, but again, that doesn't justify his actions. People need to stop "supporting the troops." Glorifying their crimes is a big part of the problem. If people start realizing what they are doing is wrong, maybe the wars and scale of destruction waged by the U.S. government will decrease.

The company he started had the following, absolutely disgusting, motto: "Despite what your momma told you, Violence does solve problems."

Then, there is also this: Kyle told Fox News' Bill O'Reilly in January 2012 that he viewed his Iraqi victims as savages and didn't think of them as human beings. "They live by putting fear into other people's hearts and civilized people just don't act that way," he said. Kyle also said he had no regrets about the people he shot.

 

[eleganz]

Someone just told me Israel Anderson called RP and he confirmed he wrote it.

I still don't see RP logging onto twitter and writing it though.

 

[sailingaway]

Someone just told me Israel Anderson called RP and he confirmed he wrote it.

I still don't see RP logging onto twitter and writing it though.

Israel Anderson's post said he called 'the Pauls' which might have been even someone in Kentucky who might only know Ron was now managing his own account, and C4L no longer was. Regardless of this tweet, I am glad to hear that Ron is going to be managing his own accounts. There might be a learning curve, but I'd really like to be hearing from Ron directly. Also, Israel's post referred collectively to the later facebook post, which had Ron's initials, and the earlier tweet which didn't.

But he's not used to twitter. In the editing, the first week of using it, I guess he could have been clumsy. He put REP (his initials) on all the other stuff he posted though.

 

[No Free Beer]

Fuck you

Case and point.

 

[fr33]

No thanks.

BTW, you are proving my point.

You've already admitted that you are uneducated about what you are talking about. And you blame anarchists for something Ron Paul (or possibly his staff) has tweeted. Go to hell. You don't know wtf you are talking about.

 

[newbitech]

So this guy killed 150+ men women and children with a sword?

 

[The Gold Standard]

So this guy killed 150+ men women and children with a sword?

From over a mile away at times. A true hero.

 

[kcchiefs6465]

So this guy killed 150+ men women and children with a sword?

Please tell me you are joking.. or please clarify your point. I really don't think the means of death affect the phrase, "Live by the sword, die by the sword." By your same logic you would also have to ask whether he was killed by a sword. (Not that the means matter)

 

[No Free Beer]

One of my best friends is currently a SEAL...

Chris Kyle was a mass murderer and does not deserve anybody's respect. Because he and others put on uniforms that somehow absolves them of their crimes?

The company he started had the following motto: "Despite what your momma told you, Violence does solve problems."

Then, there is also this: Kyle told Fox News' Bill O'Reilly in January 2012 that he viewed his Iraqi victims as savages and didn't think of them as human beings. "They live by putting fear into other people's hearts and civilized people just don't act that way," he said. Kyle also said he had no regrets about the people he shot.

Well, I will then apologize to you for jumping to conclusions on who you know in the military.

However, this does not change my opinion.

Listen, we could sit here and argue whether we should have gone to Iraq in the first place. In fact, I would put money on that you and I agree that we shouldn't have. that being said, he did save A LOT of Marines lives. A lot of people in the military have problems with what he said and that he wrote a book about his experiences. A lot of the military also didn't like the fact that he essentially started his own company. I can understand the frustration in that. However, that wasn't his job, nor was it his to set policy. His job was to execute his orders and to protect his men. He did that. Now, I have read that he killed a boy, but that boy had an RPG. I read that he killed a woman, but that woman had grenades on her with ten Marines surrounding her. Again, you can sit here and make the philosophical argument for why we shouldn't have been there in the first place, but at the end of the day, that was not his job. His job, as previously stated, was to execute his orders and protect his men. He did that. It is not as black and white as some people are making it out to be.

And for some people to sit on their computers, comfortably, and spew nonsense like they understand the battle field is not only annoying, but irresponsible.

THAT is my point.

 

[kcchiefs6465]

From over a mile away at times. A true hero.

I remember him talking about a guy's arm he shot off like he was ordering a cup of coffee. True heroes don't have remorse.

 

[No Free Beer]

You've already admitted that you are uneducated about what you are talking about. And you blame anarchists for something Ron Paul (or possibly his staff) has tweeted. Go to hell. You don't know wtf you are talking about.

I never stated that I am uneducated about this subject. I stated that I didn't read his book. Just as you apparently didn't closely read my comment.

I blame anarchists for vile language, b/c since being on the forums, I've noticed an elitist and vile attitude from them. Not all. But A LOT. It is quite annoying. I am guilty, at times, of this too. Almost everyone is. But, to be honest, not the extent of the self-proclaimed anarchists.

For you to sit here and tell me to "go to hell" says a lot about your character and your immaturity. This is an open forum. You have all the right to say what you believe and what you want, but that doesn't mean that what you say doesn't hurt this movement. In case you are unaware, the major players in Washington and in the media read what we all say. Let me know how far this movement goes when people, like a lot of the anarchists, say things which bring negative attention to this movement.

So again, thank you, but no thank you.

 

[mport1]

Again, you can sit her and make the philosophical argument for why we shouldn't have been there in the first place, but at the end of the day, that was not his job. His job, as previously stated, was to execute his orders and protect his men. He did that. It is not as black and white as some people are making it out to be...

His job is immoral and he could have quit or stopped obeying orders. That is what a real hero would do. People should not make excuses for his crimes just because they have a veil of legitimacy from he being a part of the military.

 

[kcchiefs6465]

Well, I will then apologize to you for jumping to conclusions on who you know in the military.

However, this does not change my opinion.

Listen, we could still here at argue whether we should have gone to Iraq in the first place. In fact, I would put money on that you and I agree that we shouldn't have. that being said, he did save A LOT of Marines lives. A lot of people in the military have problems with what he said and that he wrote a book about his experiences. A lot of the military also didn't like the fact that he essentially started his own company. I can understand the frustration in that. However, that wasn't his job, nor was it to set policy. His job was to execute his orders and to protect his men. He did that. Now, I have read that he killed a boy, but that boy had an RPG. I read that he killed a woman, but that woman had grenades on her with ten Marines surrounding her. Again, you can sit her and make the philosophical argument for why we shouldn't have been there in the first place, but at the end of the day, that was not his job. His job, as previously stated, was to execute his orders and protect his men. He did that. It is not as black and white as some people are making it out to be.

And for some people to sit on their computers, comfortably, and spew nonsense like they understand the battle field is not only annoying, but irresponsible.

THAT is my point.

A lot of his kills were people coming to the aid of other people he shot. He targeted and shot anyone on the street. I get it. That's war. But don't come home laughing about limbs being blown off and heads exploding. The man was a psychopath. Whether or not the war made him that way is debatable. And because they say this woman had a grenade or this kid had a RPG does not make it so. A lot of decisions were made. And a lot of people died directly because of his decisions. He isn't a hero. Those who are offended or think that stating that is disrespecting our troops have not been paying attention. I remember that SOB going on every news station that would have him speaking about his 'trophies.'