Ron Paul: The Only White Male Republican to Vote For Repeal of 'Don't Ask Don't Tell'

[White Knight]

I disagree with Ron Paul on this. Hopefully his son wants to keep it.

 

[TheBlackPeterSchiff]

I disagree with Ron Paul on this. Hopefully his son wants to keep it.

Why?

 

[White Knight]

Why?

I'm a paleo-conservative, not a true libertarian. However, I share your opposition to neo-cons and liberals.

 

[Agorism]

This must mean that he opposes the "white male liberty movement" that the B&P likes to refer to.

I think a repeal is a good thing.

 

[rich34]

Very surprising.He was asked about DODT in one of the 2008 debates, and said he thought it was a good policy.

I believe he called it decent, if I remember correctly.

 

[MRoCkEd]

Maybe he thinks it will cause more disruption and less war.
lol...

 

[erowe1]

Hey, I dont disagree with anything you said as far as the military goes and standing Armies.......with the said.....the government should not be dismissing people based on their sexual orientation.

If you agree on all of that, then why do you care if they dismiss people based on sexual orientation?

 

[RM918]

I don't see what's wrong with repealing it. Question: If someone figures out that you're heterosexual, can you get kicked out of the military? I'd imagine not.

Rules against sexual misconduct and fraternization should be gender neutral, does it really matter what's being put where?

 

[Bruno]

His answer on "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" occurs at 9:08. (I forgot how to load the video beginning on that time. )

#9m8s or something like that?

 

[Theocrat]

People Like Me Care, That's Why

Why should someone support what someone wishes to do in their own fucking bedroom. Why should people care if some is fucking gay??!?!?!?

Props to Ron Paul for supporting a bigoted policy.

Why shouldn't people care if someone is gay? We are discussing a moral issue here. And gays do not have a right to be gay, so they need to stop getting society to accept their nasty lifestyle.

 

[TonySutton]

Why shouldn't people care if someone is gay? We are discussing a moral issue here. And gays do not have a right to be gay, so they need to stop getting society to accept their nasty lifestyle.

My god says your god doesn't have any rights...

 

[.Tom]

Good job Ron! Glad you see how DADT targets gays specifically and doesn't do anything to address heterosexual misconduct, therefore it's a discriminatory and irrational policy.

Fuck the other GOP bigots.

 

[Bruno]

Why shouldn't people care if someone is gay? We are discussing a moral issue here. And gays do not have a right to be gay, so they need to stop getting society to accept their nasty lifestyle.

No matter how or with whom/what you have sex, someone is bound to think it is nasty.

Let God sort that one out.

 

[sofia]

shame on ron....

normal soldiers should not be forced to bunk with queers..


extremist purism like this is why we cant win GOP nomination.....

 

[BW2112]

Does the Military have a right to choose what type of soldiers they want?

Not as long as those who aren't allowed in the military are forced to pay taxes to support them.

 

[Theocrat]

Shame on the GOP

shame on ron....

normal soldiers should not be forced to bunk with queers..


extremist purism like this is why we cant win GOP nomination.....

We didn't land on Elephant Rock. Elephant Rock landed on us!

 

[.Tom]

Why shouldn't people care if someone is gay? We are discussing a moral issue here. And gays do not have a right to be gay, so they need to stop getting society to accept their nasty lifestyle.

Who are you to tell me who I can voluntarily and consensually have sex with?

With all due respect, go shove your cross up your ass, because your sky daddy doesn't own me.

I may sound a bit angry, and I am, because I personally know gay people that have been harassed by bigots like you their whole life - and it has really taken a toll on them.

So, until you've been in their shoes, mind your own fucking business.

 

[Lucille]

Ron Paul: Constituents changed my mind on 'don't ask, don't tell':

"I have received several calls and visits from constituents who, in spite of the heavy investment in their training, have been forced out of the military simply because they were discovered to be homosexual," Paul said Friday. "To me, this seems like an awful waste. Personal behavior that is disruptive should be subject to military discipline regardless of whether the individual is heterosexual or homosexual. But to discharge an otherwise well-trained, professional, and highly skilled member of the military for these reasons is unfortunate and makes no financial sense."

 

[Promontorium]

Glad to see only the anti-science racists are pro Don't Ask Don't Tell. Also a good second is that none of them served in the military.

I served with openly homosexual people and people who kept dead silent about it.

What you stereotypically assume about homosexuals is much more prevalant in all males, we are generally overtly sexual. It's a science thing, so I won't go into it. But behavior is a choice. And it is military policy to not tolerate sexual behavior of any kind.

Every time I see this discussion here, people roll out the double standard. So afraid some "queer" might say something homosexual, or put on a pink tshirt or something, meanwhile 90% of the military is straight men who want to fuck anything in a skirt. The potential openness of the gays won't be a drop in the pond of what the teen to twenty something testosterone amped, sex deprived, straight men want to say and do. Yet somehow it all works out.

It's called military bearing. It is a standard that every person is held to. It works.

No one is putting forth a proposition to allow gay people to "act" a certain way.

Don't Ask Don't Tell has absolutely nothing to do with behavior. There is no stipulation in that rule that says people can't act gay. It is a rule that says if someone thinks you're gay, or you say you're gay, then you're fired.

For one moment think about that. You keep hounding on the "behavior" you assume they exude. But the rule has nothing to do with behavior. Why is this? Because homosexuals aren't uncontrollable 'animals' and really the only way to figure out someone is gay is verbally. If you were even half right, that gays would "disrupt" the military with their behavior, then the rule wouldn't be "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" it would be "Don't stick it, in that guy's ass". But sodomy is already banned under the UCMJ. and will still be banned if DADT is repealed.

 

[rprprs]

I don't see what's wrong with repealing it. Question: If someone figures out that you're heterosexual, can you get kicked out of the military? I'd imagine not.

Rules against sexual misconduct and fraternization should be gender neutral, does it really matter what's being put where?

Agreed. And, as your first sentence suggests, isn't part of the problem with DADT the fact that, even absent fraternization, gays can be "outed"?

I don't know a great deal about the law, so I'm just asking.