fisharmor
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I don't know, this all seems like a very obvious trap.
I've never thought of myself as a white man. I was raised on childrens media in the late 70s that was still teaching kids that your skin didn't define you. I went to public school in New Orleans where I was a minority. I was listening to hip-hop before other white people were because that's what all my friends were listening to, and I had to be told by older people that was n****er music.
Even into my adolescence, you had Lawrence Fishburne playing a cowboy on Pee Wee's Playhouse and we were all like "yeah, ok sure".
The times I've been to a black church I felt super uncomfortable, but I had to find out later it was the exact same discomfort I feel when I'm in a sea of white people. The discomfort of feeling like I have to do certain things to belong.
Whenever I'm standing in a group of "white men" I think 'jfc someone at least throw a Greek or a Hungarian in here' because it's stifling.
Monolithic thinking is objectively anti progress. And if there's cultural pressure for me to act a certain way then I'm going to feel compelled not to be my usual fractured and unburdened self.
Appealing to white men is bait. It's the same bait as appealing to black men.
Nobody who found this site in 2008 thought "oh gee this is where the white men are, I guess I'll sign up".
Seems like every other day there's something here saying "Hey, remember 2004? Remember how we all felt relieved after Bush got reelected? Let's all go back to 2004 and forget all this new stuff we used to believe."
I've never thought of myself as a white man. I was raised on childrens media in the late 70s that was still teaching kids that your skin didn't define you. I went to public school in New Orleans where I was a minority. I was listening to hip-hop before other white people were because that's what all my friends were listening to, and I had to be told by older people that was n****er music.
Even into my adolescence, you had Lawrence Fishburne playing a cowboy on Pee Wee's Playhouse and we were all like "yeah, ok sure".
The times I've been to a black church I felt super uncomfortable, but I had to find out later it was the exact same discomfort I feel when I'm in a sea of white people. The discomfort of feeling like I have to do certain things to belong.
Whenever I'm standing in a group of "white men" I think 'jfc someone at least throw a Greek or a Hungarian in here' because it's stifling.
Monolithic thinking is objectively anti progress. And if there's cultural pressure for me to act a certain way then I'm going to feel compelled not to be my usual fractured and unburdened self.
Appealing to white men is bait. It's the same bait as appealing to black men.
Nobody who found this site in 2008 thought "oh gee this is where the white men are, I guess I'll sign up".
Seems like every other day there's something here saying "Hey, remember 2004? Remember how we all felt relieved after Bush got reelected? Let's all go back to 2004 and forget all this new stuff we used to believe."