Ron Paul Supporters: When It Comes to Obama vs Romney, Just Say No

[kathy88]

http://www.policymic.com/articles/1...-when-it-comes-to-obama-vs-romney-just-say-no

In a Breitbart.com article entitled "Time for Ron Paul Fans to Support the Constitution," Kurt Schlichter discusses the dire necessity of ousting President Obama and replacing him with Mitt Romney. Schlichter attempts to make the case that four more years of the current administration will be the final nail in the Constitution's coffin, and in order to prevent this, Ron Paul supporters must bite the bullet and vote for the Romney/Ryan ticket.

Schlichter, like any good Republican, accurately and ruthlessly identifies the danger of re-electing President Obama. The administration's record has been nothing short of appalling on civil liberties issues ranging from free speech to habeas corpus (!), and that's not even brushing the surface. Let's not forget the disastrous state of the economy, which has only been weakened by the phony "stimulus" attempts encouraged by the president, and, of course, the fact that the "peace candidate" acts a whole lot like George W. Bush on foreign policy. Sure, he talks like a dove, but he walks like a hawk.

I agree that the Democrats are hypocrites who cannot be trusted when they pay mere lip-service to civil liberties, because in reality they oppose these essential freedoms. I only wish that Kurt Schlichter would apply the same scrutiny to the Republicans and Romney.

As a libertarian (and fervent Ron Paul supporter), a candidate's ability to protect the Constitution is paramount to me. In order for a candidate to protect the Constitution, he must have a thorough understanding of its principles and their application. If we take a look at Romney's record, it becomes eminently clear that he fails this litmus test.

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[RockEnds]

Schlichter attempts to make the case that four more years of the current administration will be the final nail in the Constitution's coffin

I'm not so sure that nail wasn't already driven before Obama ever took office.

 

[cajuncocoa]

The comments on the Breitbart in favor of voting against Obama make my teeth hurt.

 

[sailingaway]

The comments on the Breitbart in favor of voting against Obama make my teeth hurt.

The easy answer to that is to not read Breitbart.

 

[Anti Federalist]

The easy answer to that is to not read Breitbart.

Better answer:

Think of Breitbarters and Freepers and Blazers reading our comments.

Muwahahahahahah....

 

[Anti Federalist]

Given all of this, Ron Paul supporters like myself are in a precarious position. On one side, we are faced with a choice between a ticket that represents spending growth, encourages socialized corporate losses, and supports breaches of constitutionally guaranteed liberties. On the other side, we have Barack Obama.

Both tickets represent more of the same beltway politics. Both tickets support economic policies that have been sinking the American system for decades. Many Republicans, like Schlichter, are quick to talk about the evils of the Obama administration. What they fail to see, however, is that a potential Romney administration will perpetuate those same evils.

If Ron Paul supporters were to take Kurt Schlichter's advice and "support the Constitution", how could we proceed? If my only options this November are Obama, whose contempt for the Constitution is clear both in his actions and rhetoric, and Romney, whose contempt for the Constitution is plainly evident in his actions, there's only one thing my conscience will permit me: to shrug.

 

[John of Des Moines]

I'll vote for Mitt if it can be shown while as Governor of Massachusetts or his father as Governor of Michigan, Mitt or his father, used the phrase "Tenth Amendment" whether in a speech, in a message to the Legislature, or even in a op-ed piece in one of the local rags. Show that either used the phrase just one time and I'll vote for Mitt.

 

[cajuncocoa]

Better answer:

Think of Breitbarters and Freepers and Blazers reading our comments.

Muwahahahahahah....

 

[affa]

It's almost (but not quite) fun watching them try to force us into the 'lesser of two evils' quandary. It's not going to work. It's not even remotely clear to me that Romney even represents the 'lesser' half of the equation, and even if I was positive he did (which I actually doubt), he's still not getting my vote. The only thing I know for sure is that electing either of these men represents voting for someone who will further our spiral into debt, further our loss of civil liberties, and continue the 'wars' abroad.

Neither man remotely represents me. Neither will ever, ever get my vote.

People love to repeat the illogical mantra 'if you don't vote, you can't complain', but truly, it's the opposite. If you take part in this ridiculous game, if you vote for the lesser of two evils (whichever side you determine that is), you deserve exactly what you get, regardless of who 'wins'... because you voted for tyranny.

Ron Paul or not at all.

 

[Carlybee]

 

[moostraks]

It's almost (but not quite) fun watching them try to force us into the 'lesser of two evils' quandary. It's not going to work. It's not even remotely clear to me that Romney even represents the 'lesser' half of the equation, and even if I was positive he did (which I actually doubt), he's still not getting my vote. The only thing I know for sure is that electing either of these men represents voting for someone who will further our spiral into debt, further our loss of civil liberties, and continue the 'wars' abroad.

Neither man remotely represents me. Neither will ever, ever get my vote.

People love to repeat the illogical mantra 'if you don't vote, you can't complain', but truly, it's the opposite. If you take part in this ridiculous game, if you vote for the lesser of two evils (whichever side you determine that is), you deserve exactly what you get, regardless of who 'wins'... because you voted for tyranny.

Ron Paul or not at all.

Right there with ya. I am disgusted with them pulling out the trite threats of the lesser of two evils argument. Didn't work last time and won't work this time. I will vote my conscience. I don't think Romney is necessarily the lesser evil either. I think it is almost a draw and I'd be hard pressed to say which is more dangerous a person to be in the positon between the two. We are so screwed...

 

[EBounding]

The only argument the "Get Obama Out" people have is "Obama is a Marxist who hates this country. At least Romney loves this country".

Then they go on to say the country will collapse in 4 years under Obama, but they don't give any specifics on why that will happen or why it would be any different under Romney. That might convince rank and file Republicans, but how is that going to convince the 5% of moderate independents, much less the "Ron Paul People"?

 

[libertariantexas]

Schlichter attempts to make the case that four more years of the current administration will be the final nail in the Constitution's coffin, and in order to prevent this, Ron Paul supporters must bite the bullet and vote for the Romney/Ryan ticket.

Schlicther owes me a new key board.

I just puked and short circuited the old one.

No vote for Romney. Not a chance in Hell.

Not even if he had a chance of winning, which he doesn't.

Romney is going to get squashed like a grape in November. He's going down faster than the Titanic.

 

[FSP-Rebel]

If this Breitbarfer had any sense at all and actually cared about the Constitution he'd be preaching nullification across the board instead of pleading with self-respecting Paul supporters to pitch in for R-money. Tard

 

[LadyBastiat]

I'm not so sure that nail wasn't already driven before Obama ever took office.

I would say good Ole Abe got the nail well planted in the coffin and the final tap was Wilson, The Progressive Era, The Income Tax & The federal reserve (all happening around 1913). 1913 was a VERY bad year for liberty.

 

[asurfaholic]

Must. Have. Unity.

Unity unity unity

 

[nobody's_hero]

Your choices this November

A) The guy who assassinated a U.S. Citizen without a trial in the 'War on Terror'

B) The guy who doesn't think the President is doing enough in the 'War on Terror'

 

[Cody1]

Must. Have. Unity.

Unity unity unity

USA, USA, USA

 

[sailingaway]

Given all of this, Ron Paul supporters like myself are in a precarious position. On one side, we are faced with a choice between a ticket that represents spending growth, encourages socialized corporate losses, and supports breaches of constitutionally guaranteed liberties. On the other side, we have Barack Obama.

Both tickets represent more of the same beltway politics. Both tickets support economic policies that have been sinking the American system for decades. Many Republicans, like Schlichter, are quick to talk about the evils of the Obama administration. What they fail to see, however, is that a potential Romney administration will perpetuate those same evils.

If Ron Paul supporters were to take Kurt Schlichter's advice and "support the Constitution", how could we proceed? I.

NOBP

 

[jolynna]

NOBP

You CAN'T vote for Romney and 'support the constitution'. Romney (Patriot Act, Owner of Fusion Centers--that SPY on us illegally, NDAA lover, and writer of op-eds advocating the worst kinds of torture and more and larger prisons in foreign countries) doesn't even have the decency to PRETEND in advance of being elected that he disapproves of turning the U.S. into a police state. He's bragging about all of the above because he thinks they are just great. NOTHING constitutional about Mr. Romney.

Plus voting for him would be immoral. It has been proven beyond any reasonable doubt that we should NEVER have invaded Iraq. (No weapons of mass destruction, no participation in 9/11 and NOT ONLY NO AL QAEDA THERE, Al Qaeda wasn't welcome in Iraq...Hussein hated them--and the Bush team KNEW...indisputably KNEW IN ADVANCE all of the proceeding.)

So we are supposed to rush into Iran because Netanyahu and the same people who urged us to invade Iraq because Iraq was developing NUKES are now saying Iran is developing NUKES. Those people have been saying Iran is on the verge of developing NUKES since the LATE 1980s.

You'd think after Vietnam and Iraq and the fact that we've been hearing the same rubbish for 20 years THAT THE MASSES would stop falling for the same old, same old from our government.

Look...this is about money and oil and resources and strategic bullying positioning...NOT PROTECTING UNITED STATES CITIZENS. Not one foreign power has EVER taken AWAY a SINGLE AMERICAN FREEDOM. EVER. Our government took it. And people are actually fighting OVER which one of the "TAKERS AWAY" OF OUR LIBERTY we should vote for???!!


The United States went after Iraq and Iran and Libya because our Petrodollar and therefore reserve currency are threatened. And despite the lies that we GOT NOTHING OIL WISE from Iraq, that just flat out is NOT TRUE. We were doling out leases to other countries for the rights to that oil a year a YEAR before we invaded Iraq. So technically, it was blood for leases in the beginning. Not any more though. Essex and BP and ALL of the other oil companies are NOT EVEN PRETENDING NOT TO GET PROFITS FROM IRANIAN OIL THESE DAYS...THEY ARE RAKING IN BILLIONS...IT IS ALL OVER THE WEB...look it up.

I, for one, do NOT WANT MY SON TO DIE for some oil tycoon's or some bankster's big bonus or for the U.S. to be in a MORE strategic position to bully more people out of THEIR resources. I don't want him to have to see or be a part of exterminating other human beings--FOR NO DECENT REASON. (I don't consider profit a decent reason. If we go down as a country financially...let the bankers and the politicians and THEIR sons and daughters pick up weapons and head to the middle east. Let's see how brave THEY are...and how much they think their money is worth when THEIR lives are on the line.) My child enlisted because he BELIEVED the lies.

I have said it before and will say it again. MOST of our young military doesn't have a CLUE...they believe the lies the media spews...UNTIL IT IS TOO LATE. And once they know it is eating them to the point they are committing suicide in higher numbers than EVER before. They've been tricked and betrayed. We are being tricked and betrayed.

For the sake of morality and liberty and freedom and ANY decency (NOTHING decent about exterminating other HUMAN BEINGS for NO JUST CAUSE), neither Romney or Obama can be voted for without you becoming an accomplice. Once you KNOW better, you MUST DO better. With knowledge comes added responsibility.

In my opinion.