Ron Paul on the Latest Conventions

[TruckinMike]

Note to Dr. Paul:

We are NOT giving up, we will never let those lying, cheating, collectivist loving Marxist POS continue along their well troddened path to complete tyranny. We will fight them, we will stop them. And do you know what to expect? I do. An establishment crying foul to their traitorous brothers in the media. They will writhe in pain from the loss of power, they will verbally and physically lash out, they will do anything and everything to maintain control of the GOP. And from the reports that I read - it appears we are making headway. FULL STEAM AHEAD!!

TMike

 

[helmuth_hubener]

Uh, no, not all of the rest of the Republican party is "bad". Many will end up coming our way, once the message is explained to them in terms that they understand. There is no reason for us to go out of our way to tick any off. And pirate suits and V masks will do us absolutely no good and will cause many to misunderstand this movement even more.

I. Don't. Care.

What you don't realize is that this entire campaign is an exercise in ticking people off! The whole thing is all about going to an enormous amount of effort to apoplecticly tick off millions of despicable statists. That's it. That's what we're doing. That's what this campaign is. We are spending hundreds of hours organizing and getting our people out -- that is, we are certainly "going out of our way" -- in order to take over these sick good old boys' caucuses and conventions -- that is, "to tick these GOP slimeballs off."

The only way to avoid ticking them off is to not knock them to the ground and then repeatedly kick them in the head. They do not like it when we do that. They want to be up on the stage at the convention, receiving applause, power, and bribes, and not being thrown into the dumpster in the alley behind the convention hall. Go figure. But I, for one, intend to keep doing it. And people like you, along with all your neocon warmonger buddies, can just go cry about it. Thank you!

 

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

While I like Wead, I know his horse isn't attached to the Paul campaign. We gotta remember that many of these Paul campaign workers are hired guns that want to work on some other campaign in the future and may try to curry favor with the establishment for the future of their careers.

If he's really throwing in the towel on behalf of Paul then Wead should go ahead and write me a check to reimburse me for my outstanding convention registration fees and hotel room. PM me Doug so I can give you my address. Otherwise he, like Benton, should STFU and do his job if he's still employed by this campaign.

Yep. Those two can move on right now if they like.

 

[Athan]

I would humbly request that we go forward with passion, enthusiasm, and respect.

AGREED.

 

[airborne373]

Perhaps I have missed it. Beyond the booing, which people have done since elections have begun, what have our guys done that is disrespectful? On the other hand, our guys have been shoved, stomped on, hit in the back of the head; parliamentary rules have been disregarded by the controlling establishment, conventions have been prematurely shut down, etc. All in an effort to thwart their own bylaws, if it meant stopping Ron Paul supporters from becoming delegates.

So, please tell me, what have our guys done that is so horrible? Because I must have missed it.

I do not believe you have missed anything. I smell psyop and a room a usefull idiots falling for it. Oh Ron Paul say he is disappointed about his delegates winning control of government how horrible. Give me a break.

 

[nobody's_hero]

What's all this talk about respect?

Pardon me for not tipping my hat to the 'ladies and gentlemen' who have utterly ruined this country.

 

[BenMuldowney]

What's all this talk about respect?

Pardon me for not tipping my hat to the 'ladies and gentlemen' who have utterly ruined this country.

AMEN BROTHER!!!

 

[Paul Fan]

Keep those brushfires burning!

 

[anewvoice]

Obviously, I am not speaking for the campaign, but from what I have gathered it is the case of our folks dragging out a process that normally is merely a formality into a drawn out nightmare that spills into parking lots etc. For states where the delegates are already bound to a candidate, the convention is simply taking care of the business of figuring out who is going to the convention. These usually run very smoothly, but we have some folks who feel the need to play parliamentarian and call for points of order at every single turn, shout down speakers, etc. As the campaign described it, it has become "chaotic". That is the viewpoint that I am gathering from reading comments and posts on non-Paul sites.

So while I appreciate people's willingness to travel and show up at these conventions, and while they are technically following the rules of the conventions, they are in many ways making a spectacle of themselves (I read somewhere that some people showed up in pirate costumes - I hope that is not true) and quite frankly leaving a very bad taste in the mouths of others. I would venture to guess that many of the persons that attended the conventions in AZ and OK over the weekend, who may have had a neutral to positive opinion of Paul and his supporters prior to the weekend, now view us in a negative way.

As the statement in the OP points out, we are looking for long term viability with this process, and if we are creating animosity between ourselves and other Republicans they will be less likely to want to work with us in the future.

Ah yes, and we can expect that the other side behaves and does nothing of the sort when losing. Oh wait, I watched Maine and it was the establishment drawing it out and making a mockery of the process. And it was the establishment in OK who violated numerous rules, and in AZ and pretty much every other place we've been.

This is not a chess match, it is a battle an we're playing by the rules. There was animosity in the early 80's when the social conservatives took over, there will be again when we do. As much as I love Ron Paul, the expectation that the establishment will all of a sudden be kind and gentle with us because we're kind and gentle to them is not how society is now.

 

[Dogsoldier]

Here is a crazy idea.....Did anyone see that thread about the art of war?

"Put the army in the face of death where there is no escape and they will not flee or be afraid.There is nothing they cannot achieve."-The art of war

Doesn't it seem like these recent happeneings put us in the face of death?

 

[dude58677]

I. Don't. Care.

What you don't realize is that this entire campaign is an exercise in ticking people off! The whole thing is all about going to an enormous amount of effort to apoplecticly tick off millions of despicable statists. That's it. That's what we're doing. That's what this campaign is. We are spending hundreds of hours organizing and getting our people out -- that is, we are certainly "going out of our way" -- in order to take over these sick good old boys' caucuses and conventions -- that is, "to tick these GOP slimeballs off."

The only way to avoid ticking them off is to not knock them to the ground and then repeatedly kick them in the head. They do not like it when we do that. They want to be up on the stage at the convention, receiving applause, power, and bribes, and not being thrown into the dumpster in the alley behind the convention hall. Go figure. But I, for one, intend to keep doing it. And people like you, along with all your neocon warmonger buddies, can just go cry about it. Thank you!

This!

 

[Akus]

No one even threw snowballs at anyone. I am so proud.

well it is may, and even northern states don't have any snow any more

 

[Akus]

I think the campaign probably sent out the email to give everyone a dose of reality. Unless a miracle happens and a majority of voters in TX and CA have an epiphany to vote for Paul, then it's totally impossible to prevent Romney from getting the magic number of bound delegates. With this understanding, maybe some of the more hot-headed supporters will chill out when it comes convention time.

We've made many times more headway than we made last time, we have multiple state-chair positions, and probably too many county chair positions to count. Paul is thinking we can take over the party if we just keep at it a little longer. He wants minimal ill will from the old guard so we can take over more positions as time goes on.

The last thing is whether we can ever find another guy who gets people as fired up as Ron! Rand's not impressing me so far.

I'm dead sick of waiting for miracles.
If I wanted to wait for a miracle then I'd wait for Obama to overhaul our drug foreign and money policies.
This campaign was shit. Leaps and bounds better then the one in 08, but still shit.
Yes, the people who are brand new to the movement in particular and any type of politics in general act out of line, that can be understood and somewhat forgiven. They just don't know better. But when Rick Santorum who isn't running is beating Ron Paul who is, all of the excuses are out of the window.
Mitt Romney ppl can be real goons sometimes, but his campaign was a serious war machine, staffed with seasoned political warriors. Ron Paul's campaign, however, is staffed with who the hell knows who.

 

[Number19]

Obviously, I am not speaking for the campaign, but from what I have gathered it is the case of our folks dragging out a process that normally is merely a formality into a drawn out nightmare that spills into parking lots etc. For states where the delegates are already bound to a candidate, the convention is simply taking care of the business of figuring out who is going to the convention. These usually run very smoothly, but we have some folks who feel the need to play parliamentarian and call for points of order at every single turn, shout down speakers, etc. As the campaign described it, it has become "chaotic". That is the viewpoint that I am gathering from reading comments and posts on non-Paul sites.

So while I appreciate people's willingness to travel and show up at these conventions, and while they are technically following the rules of the conventions, they are in many ways making a spectacle of themselves (I read somewhere that some people showed up in pirate costumes - I hope that is not true) and quite frankly leaving a very bad taste in the mouths of others. I would venture to guess that many of the persons that attended the conventions in AZ and OK over the weekend, who may have had a neutral to positive opinion of Paul and his supporters prior to the weekend, now view us in a negative way.

As the statement in the OP points out, we are looking for long term viability with this process, and if we are creating animosity between ourselves and other Republicans they will be less likely to want to work with us in the future.

Delegates are only bound to the presidential vote. On all other votes they are unbound. This point is critical to the movement taking control of party officers and platform and changing the direction of the party for decades. The last time this happened was in the 80's with the social conservative take-over.

 

[jolynna]

does not sound too fair to me - if they can break their own rules, distribute fake slates, do crazy counting, and we can't even boo them.
in an ideal world, that would be the right thing to do, but in today's world, its hard to control our feelings in such situations.
but we should strive to be better.

The "old guard" GOP isn't going to like ANY change. So don't worry if they get their drawers in a knot.

The world that they want to stay the same, is going under UNLESS there is change, BUT, like the Jews that stayed in Germany and told each other that the rumors they were hearing was "crazy talk", people will cling to what is familiar.

It is my opinion that like an addict -- the nation will have to hit rock bottom before it will be willing to give up "old, pleasurable" habits (fiat money & thinking of war like it is a football game to cheer about. Which it is to the politicians & 1% who don't risk "their" children's lives).

Stick with doing what you know is right and put the message out. When the suffering from repeating the same mistakes becomes unbearable, more will be willing to hear reason.


In my opinion.