Ron Paul May Have Just Secretly Won Iowa

[slamhead]

As I understand it, the delegates chosen tonight go to their respective county GOP conventions where they vote on the 25 national delegates. The county delegates are not bound to vote for people who support the winner. This would help us at the national convention in the event there was a brokered convention. At the national convention the first round of voting is binding.

 

[Carehn]

All the pansy-assed gaping puss filled butt holes on this forum tonight are going to eat a shit load of crow. Of course, then they'll all come back acting like they were Paul supporters the whole time.

Fuckin' Marys.

Slow your roll bro.

 

[pacu44]

So, when does this news get released on the delegates? TONIGHT?!!!???

 

[me3]

No offense folks, but we heard all about the delegates last time.

Iowa is not important for the delegates. It is important for electability (Paul didn't make that case) and it is important for fund raising. This was Paul's best chance to win a state. He is not going to get the nomination if he can't win a state.

Losing Iowa makes improving in every other early state much more difficult, including and most importantly SC and FL.

 

[JulioForPaul]

These are Ron Paul delegates bounded to RON PAUL if we get enough precinct level delegates. The actual vote we are watching is meaningless.

 

[abstrusezincate]

I believe the delegates are actually unbound.

From Wikipedia:

Republican Party process

The non-binding results are tabulated and reported to the state party, which releases the results to the media. Delegates from the precinct caucuses go on to the county conventions, which choose delegates to the district conventions, which in turn selects delegates to the Iowa State Convention. Thus, it is the Republican Iowa State Convention, not the precinct caucuses, which selects the ultimate delegates from Iowa to the Republican National Convention. All delegates are officially unbound from the results of the precinct caucus, although media organizations either estimate delegate numbers by estimating county convention results or simply divide them proportionally.

In short, whatever estimations the media makes, it makes no difference. Whomever gets the delegates, gets the votes.

 

[pacu44]

Well, Louisiana is a winnable state =}

 

[Ninja Homer]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iowa_caucus#Republican_Party_process
"Delegates from the precinct caucuses go on to the county conventions, which choose delegates to the district conventions, which in turn selects delegates to the Iowa State Convention. Thus, it is the Republican Iowa State Convention, not the precinct caucuses, which selects the ultimate delegates from Iowa to the Republican National Convention. All delegates are officially unbound from the results of the precinct caucus, although media organizations either estimate delegate numbers by estimating county convention results or simply divide them proportionally."

Iowa delegates to the RNC are completely unbound, even in the first round.

 

[Ninja Homer]

I believe the delegates are actually unbound.



In short, whatever estimations the media makes, it makes no difference. Whomever gets the delegates, gets the votes.

Beat me to it, but yes.

 

[seawolf]

me3 you speak the truth. Like you I am also from the last Campaign, our bright spot is that we more than doubled our vote total, and we leave Iowa as a legitimate Campaign, unlike four years ago when we were laughed at and ignored by the media.

It will be hard I agree, but things are very different this year. The Campaign Staff is much improved and the Liberty Movement is spreading much faster than I had ever hoped.

Let's roll up our sleaves me3 and get to work.

 

[White Bear Lake]

LOL, they won't know what hit em`!

This article makes me a much more happy

 

[bkreigh]

this is stuff that should have already been discussed by meetup groups. Furthermore, the voters should realize how their caucuses work.

 

[JulioForPaul]

No offense folks, but we heard all about the delegates last time.

Iowa is not important for the delegates. It is important for electability (Paul didn't make that case) and it is important for fund raising. This was Paul's best chance to win a state. He is not going to get the nomination if he can't win a state.

Losing Iowa makes improving in every other early state much more difficult, including and most importantly SC and FL.

I would agree to a certain point. But we are getting a much higher percentage of the vote and delegates this time around. And the possibility of a brokered convention is a very real possibility (unlike last time)- especially if we steal delegates like we are doing in Iowa.

 

[damiengwa]

This whole, steal the delegates thing, didn't work last time. They shutdown the convention in Nevada and i think Alaska got 5 out of 25 delegates to the floor of the national convention. Every one else horse traded.

 

[mmadness]

This whole, steal the delegates thing, didn't work last time. They shutdown the convention in Nevada and i think Alaska got 5 out of 25 delegates to the floor of the national convention. Every one else horse traded.

That was after pretty much everyone had settled on McCain as the nominee! Can you imagine with the level of support we have now what we can do? Stop being a debbie downer!

 

[White Bear Lake]

The key is to broker the convention and then force rand to be the nominee through compromise or somehting.

 

[phill4paul]

Wut? Over? It ain't over till we say it is over...

 

[JulioForPaul]

This whole, steal the delegates thing, didn't work last time. They shutdown the convention in Nevada and i think Alaska got 5 out of 25 delegates to the floor of the national convention. Every one else horse traded.

We are doing much better this time. And there appears to be a greater possibility of a splintered vote. Romney cannot seem to break the 25% ceiling in most states. It's just a matter of Santorum and Gingrich splitting up enough of the other votes for a brokered convention to happen. I think the delegates will be much more important this time around and Ron Paul will actually have a lot of them.

 

[JulioForPaul]

The key is to broker the convention and then force rand to be the nominee through compromise or somehting.

This is honestly our best chance.

 

[Gravik]

Reading this article gave me a sigh of relief. When do they report who gets the delegates?