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Maybe you should STFU, Trump is not a alternative he's a joke.
Ron Paul: I wouldn't support Trump as GOP nominee
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Maybe you should STFU, Trump is not a alternative he's a joke.
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I've read the Koran, the Hadiths, and studied Islamic history. You very obviously most definitely have not, or my statement would be considered to be quite mild in comparison to the things I could say.
Muhammad:
- was a raving lunatic justly shunned in his hometown who eventually became so obnoxious they exiled him;
- started his career as a highwayman, bandit and thief
- ordered multiple assassinations for the crime of making fun of him
- commited a great many mass murders
- captured and owned slaves and raped them
- married a 6 year old girl and raped her at age 9
- repeatedly claimed divine sanction for whoever he wanted to have sex with, no matter how grossly inappropriate
- made false peace with enemies for the specific and premeditated intention of betraying them and committing genocide, which he did
- established the Islamic practice of "convert or die"
- is considered by Islam to be a faultless, perfect paragon of human behavior to be emulated by all Muslims
This is canon. I made not a word of this up, and exaggerate none of it.
Go ahead, go to the source and try to prove me wrong. It will blow your fucking mind into the next galaxy.
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The pretense of representative government is the joke. If Trump is also a joke then he fits in perfectly.
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Yeah...except Hitler wasn't a fascist. Hitler was a national socialist. (Where the word "nazi" comes from.) Mussolini was a fascist. Trump is a fascist. It's got nothing to do with hating Muslims or Mexicans or whoever. It's got everything to do with economic control. He's using fear based populism because it works. George Wallace did the same thing and he was a progressive believe it or not.
Back to Trump. Anyone, like Trump, who thinks the government forcing you to sell your land to a private developer is "great" is a fascist. Anyone, like Trump, who thinks America "deserves" an assault weapons ban is a fascist. Trump mixes some good stuff with his fascism but don't they all?
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I have no argument to that.
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Dear God please no!
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No, the version of Fascism that rules the Western world today has no good stuff mixed in with it. It's all bad, without exception.
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So let me see if I understand you. You support Trump's "The government should take your property at gun point (and pay you something for it) to give to a private developer" as a "less bad" version of fascism? Ummmm....okay.
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For my part, if Rand accepted a VP offer from Trump, I still wouldn't vote for that ticket, and I'd stop supporting Rand.
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Goldman Sachs. Chad Sweet and others. Cruz's donors and staff are horrid. Like really really bad. Cruz talks a good game but his actions speak otherwise.
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Indeed, on the face of it, Cruz is much better than Trump policy-wise.
(under the face of it, however, Cruz is dog shit of approximately the same flavor, which is why I'll be supporting neither of them)
What if it moderated Trumps Platform?
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Trump took money from people like that when he got bailed out multiple times. Now as a result of those bailouts he's rich enough not to need donations. Try again.
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Trump doesn't have a platform. He's an "etch-a-sketch" candidate just like Mitt Romney. In the little bit of the debate I watched tonight he was called out on why his "I'll let the good illegal immigrants back" plan supposedly isn't amnesty.
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What if Trump is actually Ron Paul in a rubber suit?
...in other words, that's not a possibility.
If Trump for some incomprehensible reason asked Rand to be his VP at this point, it would be Rand who would have to conform to Trump, not the other way round, as Rand has no leverage (1 delegate). Thus, if Rand accepted, I would infer that Rand agreed to conform to Trump, which would mean I could no longer support him. Anyway, the whole thing is ridiculous. There's no chance of this happening. Trump definitely won't offer, and Rand definitely wouldn't accept if he did.
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But do they actually control him? He filed chapter 11 a few times and eventually repaid his creditors. In comparison, Cruz will not have much autonomy with that much money hanging over his head.
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Ah. So if you can steal enough money so you can con your supporters into thinking you no longer need the thieves then it's all good? Al Capone for president?
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What would Trump do with his alleged autonomy differently from what Cruz would do without autonomy?
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