Ron Paul: I wouldn't support Trump as GOP nominee

They're not just talking about him, a few trumpanzees are actively promoting.

A few "trumpanzees" aren't going to destroy activity on the site. If anything, they are contributing to it.

Why is Donald Trump, getting blamed for the actions of members that have been here for years? The ones supporting Trump, are just a few of them? How does that influence the activity of others? It sounds like an excuse to not look at the real problems within the liberty movement.

Like, why aren't we supporting Vermin Supreme?
 
It's not our fault if non-libertarian Donald Trump is going to create an environment that will end up being very helpful for libertarians...

When you say "an environment that will end up being very helpful for libertarians...", what exactly do you mean?
 
Maybe I'm just not asleep. Before Hitler was elected Chancellor he was just a lowly corporal and a minor political activist. It's a much larger jump to think that an anti-communist political activist would start stuffing Jews into ovens than that a Casino mogul would do likewise to Muslims.

Hitler really? its one thing for his fanboys to think he is the next coming of George Washington but thinking he is the next Hitler is just crazy. For one, unlike with Hitler, the economy would completely tank under his proposed economic policies. The man is a poser working to get Hillary elected. He is not a conservative, not a nationalist of any kind except for maybe a zionist and if magically he is allowed to win, his presidency won't change much(i.e won't be allowed to implement his policies)

My worry is not that he would kill anyone other than the people the Israelis want to kill, its the fact that another politician has pulled the wool over our heads yet again and a whole swat of people who have supposedly woken up fell for it.
 
A few "trumpanzees" aren't going to destroy activity on the site. If anything, they are contributing to it.

Why is Donald Trump, getting blamed for the actions of members that have been here for years? The ones supporting Trump, are just a few of them? How does that influence the activity of others? It sounds like an excuse to not look at the real problems within the liberty movement.

Like, why aren't we supporting Vermin Supreme?

It's not like Trump supporters are running around stating that Donald Trump is the next Thomas Jefferson. We admit his faults and statist tendencies. Meanwhile, the other camp, the detractors, are assured he will be Hitler, Mussolini and Castro all rolled into one. We have one side actively promoting histrionics, while the other side is saying , 'Hey, there are a few good things here, but we have to wait and see."
 
You are delusional.

No he is not delusional, remember Bush's "we have to abandon the free market principles to save the free market". It all makes sense when you are not over working your brain cells. They have to save those brain cells for mental activities as demanding as making sense of what Trump is saying.

 
Second Thessalonians chapter 2 doesn't really leave a whole lot of room for 'interpretation' on that score.

Oh come on Gunny, how so?

2 Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers and sisters, 2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the day of the Lord has already come. 3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness[a] is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.

btw - the closest we have come in this race with a candidate using his faith to promote his candidacy is Ted Cruz and his supporters like Glenn Beck.
 
It's not like Trump supporters are running around stating that Donald Trump is the next Thomas Jefferson. We admit his faults and statist tendencies. Meanwhile, the other camp, the detractors, are assured he will be Hitler, Mussolini and Castro all rolled into one. We have one side actively promoting histrionics, while the other side is saying , 'Hey, there are a few good things here, but we have to wait and see."

You want it to be like that, you got it.
 
No he is not delusional, remember Bush's "we have to abandon the free market principles to save the free market".

Trump reminds me more of Bush then anyone else. Everyone thinks they are smarter then Trump, that's one thing everyone likes about him. The doublethink though is like deja vu.
 
And...low and behold...donald supporters will lie just like he does.

Im sorry...ive seen enough to know a large number of people who think trump is some kind of god...

Go ahead and read as many trump supporters comments as you can stomach...we should make a database of them all.
You wont find common sense in a one...honestly.

One word could sum the whole database up
Delusional
 
I'm sorry, I'm kind of pissed off right now. I'm actually ticked at Ron for telling me who NOT to vote for, when he didn't run, and sent his son instead..... who literally quit on us, not even midstream. If nothing else, Rand should have stayed in for the Paul ardent supporters.


Don't ever let anyone tell you who you can or can't vote for. Your vote is yours. Noone can take it away from you.

Unless you're a felon obviously.
 
Maybe I'm just not asleep. Before Hitler was elected Chancellor he was just a lowly corporal and a minor political activist. It's a much larger jump to think that an anti-communist political activist would start stuffing Jews into ovens than that a Casino mogul would do likewise to Muslims.

If you're siding with the Muslims in any way, you're suicidal. They literally want you dead, your children dead, your grave dug up and bones scattered. It's in their holy book.

Alternatively, you can be converted by force and join the Borg.
 
When you say "an environment that will end up being very helpful for libertarians...", what exactly do you mean?

I think that it will be an environment where rather than having a coordinated PR campaign of a globalist cabal dictating every single thing that a President is supposed to pretend to be trying to do, you will have an imperfect leader actually sincerely trying to improve things instead.

It's going to be chaos, but it is going to be the kind of chaos that allows people to start actually dealing with reality, for once.
 
If you're siding with the Muslims in any way, you're suicidal. They literally want you dead, your children dead, your grave dug up and bones scattered. It's in their holy book.

Alternatively, you can be converted by force and join the Borg.

Wow, and you are a Ron Paul supporter. You definitely have been listening to FOX News and Republicans for to long.
 
I'm sure at some point people were saying... but Hitler was our least bad choice!

I don't think so, but they were saying George Bush is Hitler, and they were saying Ronald Reagan is Hitler. Where are the gas chambers that they built?
 
Rand has already said what he will do.

Yea, but when he said that, many months ago, I'm sure he hadn't even considered the possibility of Trump winning.

He was probably envisioning a Romney-esque robot, some empty suit around whom the whole party would rally as per usual.

Trump is something else entirely.

He's much more dangerous, and the party is not going to rally around him.

...meaning there's going to be more reason and a better opportunity for Rand to oppose him in public.

I really hope he refuses to endorse, and leads the opposition in the Senate.
 
If AJ were supporting Cruz, he could use that line. But supporting Trump isn't about being less of a purist than Ron Paul. It's about standing diametrically opposite agendas.

Alex Jones' #1 issue is 9/11 Truth and Donald Trump has come closer to pushing 9/11 Truth in GOP debates than Ron or Rand ever were willing to do. "The towers came down on your brother's watch. I'm just saying......Your brother flew the Bin Laden's out...I'm just saying....Bush lied about WMDs to get us into war with Iraq....I'm just saying" The only joy I'm getting out of this election cycle is listening to Mark Levin's head implode and then explode and then grow back and then implode again over Trump's (weak I'm just saying) trutherisms. Of course Trump was saying some of this stuff long ago when Rand was still in the race but Levin didn't go full bore anti Trump until Rand pulled out. Now that there's no competition but Cruz and to a lesser extent Rubio, Levin has taken the gloves off and acting like he's just heard this stuff.
 
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