Ron Paul: I went

[islather]

Ron "The Wrecking Ball" Paul

 

[Paulatized]

Fact check by CNN

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/01/08/truth-squad-fact-checking-the-gop-debate-4/?hpt=hp_t1

Gingrich owned again, he said in the debate he was not eligible for the draft, but actually he was.

And Gingrich said Ron Paul is always spouting mistruths, Gringrich doesn't know how to handle the truth, when he faces the truth it is foreign to him.

And, btw, his daddy served and he got dragged all around the country, he knows sacrifice, doesn't that count??? that was pathetic.

 

[goldwater's ghost]

ron went all chuck norris on the chickenhawk

 

[Diurdi]

O shit this really going to affect Gingrich in South Carolina.

 

[TexasJake]

Man... I missed the debate live and just saw the recap..... Ron absolutely killed last night... what a BOSS.

"I went."

I could not have been more proud of him.

 

[NEPatriot]

When he said "and I went" it came off as so sincere and heart felt and not like a cheesy line to politically capitalize on his military service. I know people were effected by it.

 

[Brick-in-the-Wall]

Saw this from the CNN story. Any way to confirm some of this?

This article is also true ...but incomplete. I was in college in 1968. In November I and all of my high school classmates got drafted, many of us right out of college. After the TET offensive in 1968 there was a vote in Congress to go to a "lottery" system of draft. That did not go into effect until the end of February 1969. The consequence of it though changed the deferment system and some of the selective service boards went wild drafting everyone they could in the intervening period. I remember married men being drafted when they finished college. The question here is what was Gingrich's lottery number when he finished college in 1971...it was # 73, born June 17. Everyone with a number up to 195 was drafted. This tells me he copped out. less

 

[Revolution9]

Dudge just updated their link text as: "Ron Paul slays Newt..."

Awesome.

rev9

 

[JohnGalt23g]

Yeah and we need it. Being realistic I don't see us winning South Carolina, but we have to be in the top three. Pulling down Newt is our best chance, even if his votes go mostly to Santorum. We really don't need to finish in fourth in SC. Hopefully, Newt's lack of money, a second place finish for us in NH and fourth for Newt, rising Santorum, and attack ads will drive him down and us up.

We're not going to win it. It is too tough a row to how with too much military and too many Social Conservatives, in too crowded and well-financed a field. Depending on how well we do in NH, however, Ron could announce, with great fanfare, that he was off to NV to unseat Romney there.

 

[georgiaboy]

Ron got the crowd with his eloquent support of the everyman soldiers and their ongoing struggles and how valuable individual life is. The crowd's hearts were with him there, wanting to applause. The "I went" line was the straw that broke the camel's back and the crowd could contain themselves no longer.

Beautiful to behold.

 

[Barrex]

 

[OpiateoftheOne]

First I'll vote for Ron Paul regardless of who gets the nomination and even if that vote has to be a write in vote.

All I want to say about the "I went" comment is that someone is going to challenge this by saying "well if you had to be drafted you had very little choice but to go." When Ron was drafted it was well out in front of Vietnam when people were going to Canada and otherwise doing their best to avoid service and I don't think we were in a shooting war during that period either.

Not to in any way diminish the fact that he served our country or that it's a very big plus. During Vietnam, which I think would have been the Gingrich time frame, there were a multitude of ways you could avoid the draft. Student deferment was the deferment of choice but alternate ways I remember were conscientious objection, being deemed 4F by physical, being employed in an essential civilian job, being homosexual, being in mission service, even joining the National Guard, Coast Guard were looked on as lesser of evils to avoid the draft. If you were lucky your number didn't get high enough up in the lottery to give many any reason for worry. Gingrich might have even been exempt because of his father serving in Vietnam during the period.

I'm not sure but Dr. Paul might have been able to request a deferment simply based on his occupation or even the fact that he was married and had two children. I don't think the typical voter has any idea. The important thing is that he accepted the responsibility to serve his country and did not attempt to get any form of exemption.

Many tried to limit their exposure to the potential to have to serve "in country" during the Vietnam conflict by volunteering immediately for the Air Force when they would get their draft notice. I had signed up and taken all the tests before I graduated from HS in may of 1966 but had to wait until the following February of 1967 before I could finally get in. The AF was doing all they could to help the guys out who were being drafted by pulling them in before their Army reporting dates if they could pass the exams. Many Airmen served in country of course but compared to duty of the typical Soldier or Marine it was desirable duty for the enlisted personnel if you had to go.

 

[JohnGalt23g]

Agree. Especially given Ron's response. He killed Gingrich tonight.

It was brutal, no doubt.

And the thing I liked about it; Ron was clearly prepared, with that one in his back pocket, ready to pull it out when the time was right.

And his sense of timing was, in fact, perfect.

 

[blabam]

First I'll vote for Ron Paul regardless of who gets the nomination and even if that vote has to be a write in vote.

All I want to say about the "I went" comment is that someone is going to challenge this by saying "well if you had to be drafted you had very little choice but to go." When Ron was drafted it was well out in front of Vietnam when people were going to Canada and otherwise doing their best to avoid service and I don't think we were in a shooting war during that period either.

Not to in any way diminish the fact that he served our country or that it's a very big plus. During Vietnam, which I think would have been the Gingrich time frame, there were a multitude of ways you could avoid the draft. Student deferment was the deferment of choice but alternate ways I remember were conscientious objection, being deemed 4F by physical, being employed in an essential civilian job, being homosexual, being in mission service, even joining the National Guard, Coast Guard were looked on as lesser of evils to avoid the draft. If you were lucky your number didn't get high enough up in the lottery to give many any reason for worry. Gingrich might have even been exempt because of his father serving in Vietnam during the period.

I'm not sure but Dr. Paul might have been able to request a deferment simply based on his occupation or even the fact that he was married and had two children. I don't think the typical voter has any idea. The important thing is that he accepted the responsibility to serve his country and did not attempt to get any form of exemption.

Many tried to limit their exposure to the potential to have to serve "in country" during the Vietnam conflict by volunteering immediately for the Air Force when they would get their draft notice. I had signed up and taken all the tests before I graduated from HS in may of 1966 but had to wait until the following February of 1967 before I could finally get in. The AF was doing all they could to help the guys out who were being drafted by pulling them in before their Army reporting dates if they could pass the exams. Many Airmen served in country of course but compared to duty of the typical Soldier or Marine it was desirable duty for the enlisted personnel if you had to go.

Reps will not attack Paul for having served. It goes against all their "support the troops" propaganda.

 

[tmg19103]

This needs to be made into a TV ad for South Carolina where the Grinch is polling well. It will kill him.