Ron Paul Email

[helmuth_hubener]

What are they going to do with all the extra money? There's a couple million in the bank, I think.

 

[July]

Whats disturbing is that is claims this 'its directly from me'.

The content of the message is directly from him, but that doesn't mean he didn't have some staff member draft it up on his behalf, or dictate what he wanted to communicate.

 

[RickyJ]

Whats disturbing is that is claims this 'its directly from me'.

The other thing that is disturbing is that Ron himself has shown NO optimism about even being able to get nominated into a speaking slot?

To me, it sounds like he's over it and has just passed this over to Benton and crew to do whatever the hell they want. There have been so many great opportunties at the end here that have been met with annoying silence or a negative tone from the campaign.

If he wanted there to be no confusion that it was directly from him he could have made a video and sent it out rather than an email. Anyways, what was reported in the email is wrong. If all the delegates were unbound it is possible for enough Romney delegates to vote for Paul instead of Romney which could mean Romney falls short of the 1144 needed to win. It is unlikely, but it is possible.

 

[torchbearer]

ok, for those who think this is ron's ideas typed by someone else in this email-
here is the texas convention speech-

 

[twomp]

The content of the message is directly from him, but that doesn't mean he didn't have some staff member draft it up on his behalf, or dictate what he wanted to communicate.

Seriously! It says it's directly from him. Maybe he didn't sit down and type it himself but to say that you don't believe it from him is kind of pushing it. Ron Paul says it's done, then it's done. It's HIS campaign. I was soooo fired up about this weekend too. The campaign has a great way of taking the wind out of our sails and I don't blame the supporters here who are upset with the campaign for doing it. This email could have waited until Monday but I guess he just doesn't want us getting our hopes up.

Terrible news and I wish I didn't have to read this today given how pumped I was for tomorrow. I guess it's time to wrap things up and take down my Ron Paul signs. I was originally going to write in Ron Paul but I feel that would be a waste now. Might as well vote for Gary Johnson imo, at least he hasn't given up.

 

[Lightweis]

Kind of curious regarding the timing since the Nebraska convention is right around the corner.

 

[insidemanpoker]

Yes, this is tacky, but can't believe it hasn't been posted yet:

 

[Lightweis]

I also thought the last email said we had 500 delegates?

 

[neocontroll]

It's kind of baffling. I don't understand why he and the campaign feel the need to constantly hammer it into people's heads "Oh, just in case your forgot, it's impossible. You know it's impossible, right? All we can do is change the platform a little, anything more is impossible." Even though this may all be true, how does it help anyone to say all this and completely take all the little wind remaining in everyone's sails? If it's to prevent people getting disappointed or something, it's not really necessary. I don't think anyone is particularly EXPECTING some insane miracle to happen that grants him the nomination.

It doesn't mean too much to me, but I see how insanely hostile many in the movement have become from all this (a level of hostility that becomes unjustified, granted) and you would think they could kind of get a sense of the emotions going on around supporters lately.

I agree 100%

 

[nobody's_hero]

More platform change nonsense.

Remind me when was the last time the GOP even read its own platform?

Oh wait, you can't remind someone of something that's never happened in his lifetime.

 

[CaptUSA]

This is my opinion, but I really believe that Ron Paul is trying to harness the power of this movement for the biggest political impact. That's why I find no discrepancy between his speeches and his letters and videos to us.

I also understand, that many of us do not want to be harnessed. We feel like we can do more good being unleashed. However, that's not what Ron Paul wants. He doesn't want us to fall in line, he doesn't want us to let these polticians off the hook, but he also wants us to be respectful. Respectful to people, repectful to the party, and repectful to the process. He understands we still have further to go and many in this movement have grown increasingly impatient. He knows that if we really want to reach our ultimate goal, we can't be rash. It's his personality. It's one the reasons why he has gained so much capital. I, for one, want him to be able to use it in whatever manner he chooses. I respect him that much.

 

[sailingaway]

The content of the message is directly from him, but that doesn't mean he didn't have some staff member draft it up on his behalf, or dictate what he wanted to communicate.

If you have a staff position and can say that with certainty, that the message is directly from him, that would be interesting to know. But if a staffer wrote it, that means the choice of words was theirs, so we shouldn't draw any conclusion from them.

 

[sailingaway]

This is my opinion, but I really believe that Ron Paul is trying to harness the power of this movement for the biggest political impact. That's why I find no discrepancy between his speeches and his letters and videos to us.

I also understand, that many of us do not want to be harnessed. We feel like we can do more good being unleashed. However, that's not what Ron Paul wants. He doesn't want us to fall in line, he doesn't want us to let these polticians off the hook, but he also wants us to be respectful. Respectful to people, repectful to the party, and repectful to the process. He understands we still have further to go and many in this movement have grown increasingly impatient. He knows that if we really want to reach our ultimate goal, we can't be rash. It's his personality. It's one the reasons why he has gained so much capital. I, for one, want him to be able to use it in whatever manner he chooses. I respect him that much.

I'm for RON harnessing it, but I see him speak in TX the day after a campaign email and the day Rand endorsed Romney, and he seems to be coming from one place and the campaign from another. I personally am not interested in the CAMPAIGN harnessing anything, I think Ron is the brightest light for this movement on the horizon and the movement is best served by shining the brightest spotlight on him as long as we have him. I think some in the campaign are more thinking of stables and incremental candidates no one will be excited to work for without some beacon like Ron to look to as an example of what we are working towards so painfully incrementally.

I think they have this 'work horse' mentality that the 'work horses' will shift where they want, but we aren't like that, we need a goal and inspiration. Ron, on the ballot OR NOT, is the 'top of the ticket' and his profile and enthusiasm is what drives the enthusiasm for 'down ticket races.' Or future, less inspiring ones.

In my personal opinion.

 

[rp08orbust]

Wow, people still read those emails from "Ron Paul"? I don't think I've opened once in three or four months.

 

[sailingaway]

Romulus, Ron likely gets his information from the campaign as we do, and he is modest, LITERALLY to a fault. He'd so bend over backwards not to have this be about him, fighting ego, that he might be the hardest person of all to convince that he truly is something special to be showcased, to further the ideas he personafies. He said he wanted the speech. Every interview on that says he wants the speech. It is VERY troubling to me that Ron doesn't seem to know he has 5 states - unless his 'there would be no change' is because he knows he DOES have five states, with or without Nebraska, and someone is trying hard to convince him that WE are troublemakers at conventions unless we are kept tamped down.

 

[Tudo]

Never again will there be gop on my voters card.

Not that voting means anything and surely this election has proven that beyond any doubt. And nobody is going to march in defence of freedom that much has also been proven here.

So........

 

[sailingaway]

Never again will there be gop on my voters card.

Not that voting means anything and surely this election has proven that beyond any doubt. And nobody is going to march in defence of freedom that much has also been proven here.

So........

The fat lady has not yet sung.

 

[Romulus]

This is my opinion, but I really believe that Ron Paul is trying to harness the power of this movement for the biggest political impact. That's why I find no discrepancy between his speeches and his letters and videos to us.

I also understand, that many of us do not want to be harnessed. We feel like we can do more good being unleashed. However, that's not what Ron Paul wants. He doesn't want us to fall in line, he doesn't want us to let these polticians off the hook, but he also wants us to be respectful. Respectful to people, repectful to the party, and repectful to the process. He understands we still have further to go and many in this movement have grown increasingly impatient. He knows that if we really want to reach our ultimate goal, we can't be rash. It's his personality. It's one the reasons why he has gained so much capital. I, for one, want him to be able to use it in whatever manner he chooses. I respect him that much.

I think you've got it all wrong... Ron is not about harnessing anything, at all. Benton and company, that is a different story.. But Ron himself is not about control on any level.

I love Ron but my personal opinion is the campaign sucks BALLS. The timing and tone of these "emails from Ron" are complete shit and nothing I'd expect from Ron.

Sailing, I agree... Ron is humble to a fault, but that is him, he's not about 'controlling' a campaign... unfortunately it controls his message, and our direction.

 

[dancjm]

This is not about Ron Paul. It has never been about Ron Paul, and it can never be about Ron Paul. This is not about one man, this is about Liberty.

People are wrong if they think the prize that will restore Liberty is the Office of President. It isn't. You could have Ron Paul in the White-house tomorrow, and the enemy would remain. The state of play would be much like it is today. There would be things he could do as President, but they would be difficult if the country was not with him. We have to understand that winning the Presidency is not winning this thing.

I know people feel like Ron should be president, I do too, he has earned it. But all Ron has ever really wanted is to see his country free again, not to sit in the Oval Office.

And the fact is, Ron Paul, President or not, cannot make this happen, he cannot make America free, only we can. He has been a defender of Liberty and a teacher and example to the future of Liberty. But he is one man. It is not his job to restore Liberty, it's all of ours.

 

[Brett85]

It's kind of baffling. I don't understand why he and the campaign feel the need to constantly hammer it into people's heads "Oh, just in case your forgot, it's impossible. You know it's impossible, right? All we can do is change the platform a little, anything more is impossible." Even though this may all be true, how does it help anyone to say all this and completely take all the little wind remaining in everyone's sails? If it's to prevent people getting disappointed or something, it's not really necessary. I don't think anyone is particularly EXPECTING some insane miracle to happen that grants him the nomination.

It doesn't mean too much to me, but I see how insanely hostile many in the movement have become from all this (a level of hostility that becomes unjustified, granted) and you would think they could kind of get a sense of the emotions going on around supporters lately.

I think Ron just wanted to be as realistic and honest as possible.