Romney's Illinois chairman takes Ron Paul sign out and throws it down

[LibertyEagle]

Tell that to The Sons Of Liberty. If they followed the hidden meaning of your advice we would be singting "God Save The Queen".

Randy

Hardly. No one said to buckle under, Randy. We still don't know what the RP supporter was doing. Was he sticking the sign in someone's face? That sure would irritate me too and if he wouldn't remove it, I would probably grab the damn sign out of his hands. Did that happen here? Bottom line, we don't have enough information.

There is also something about the old saying to "pick your battles".

 

[LibertyEagle]

Kiss my royal pot smoking, long haired, wild dressed, jackboot hating, non-ned flanders acting ass. I already have gotten more folks on the bandwagin than you and I know that is a fact. Your type will turn off potential converts and you hard core red state ned flanders repugnicans do not have enough votes wthout us to make a fucking dent. Behave yourself and watch who you call names. You may have to stand toe and toe with us or look us in the eye one day. I know I ain't going away. We are taking over the party whether you ned flanders types like it or not. I am 50.. Most of the people I have brought to the party and platform are between 20 and 30..So..they are the FUTURE of the republican party and without them the republican party has no future due to ned flanders type clowns fronting it and thugs like the jerk strongarming doing the dirtywork. Gambit is over and washed up. We take no shit from no one. They behave and keep their mitts off us and all is fine.. Touch me or my crew and there will be hell to pay.

Don't Tread On Me!
Randy

EVERYONE is needed, Randy. But, is it really necessary to go out of our way to alienate every single existing Republican, in the process?

 

[axiomata]

EVERYONE is needed, Randy. But, is it really necessary to go out of our way to alienate every single existing Republican, in the process?

Depends if your goal is to take over the party or restore it. Randy's goal seems to be the former, which is a goal that Ron Paul doesn't share.

 

[Revolution9]

EVERYONE is needed, Randy. But, is it really necessary to go out of our way to alienate every single existing Republican, in the process?

Where you get that idea I do not know. Seems to me the hard core red state folks at the rally yesterday thought my antics were a hoot. And ya know.. If the thug had of taken a Huckabee sign and did that and I was there i would still do something about it. This ain't about stepping on an RP sign.. It is about stepping on people and I have a huge grudge against bullies i need working off when i see them in action.

As for the people around this board with the nasty names for folks who do not fit their paradigm. I got a bucketload of argument for each and every one of them. In five years they will be whispering what they cry out loud now. In ten years they will either get real and accept people for the individual their Creator made them as or die a political death as a hypocrite who does not really respect what true freedom means..

Best
Randy

 

[fj45lvr]

Unfortunately some on the group just don't get it.....they NEED republicans to win a republican primary. That's why Randy and his buddies will assist Paul in sealing his defeat....when tragically Paul is the MOST conservative member of Congress, respectful of others and honest.

It seems many of Pauls "supporters" have their OWN agenda which will submarine our efforts to try to persuade the Republicans to find out about him and want to join the "revolution"......

It wouldn't surprise me one bit if many of these "combatant activists" fail to register republican either BTW.

.....I guess they are just too SELFISH to listen to reason in the regard to WISDOM.....go ahead and be COMBATANTS and "take your shots at THE MAN" in a wild JUVINILE tantrum.

you're really confused if you equate a calculated actual war (with blood) on tyranny with being a rude "activist combatant" shouting over others conversations or sticking signs in their faces (moronic behavior)

We're smart enough to know that the the hemp fest crowd isn't going to overcome and outvote the republican base pissing them off in the feeble attempt to do so. Your type is doomed to rot away in 3rd party purgatory.

 

[fj45lvr]

Unfortunately

 

[Nefertiti]

I think Max needs to be ignored here in this thread. BUt that's just me.

Who?

 

[fj45lvr]

We are taking over the party whether you ned flanders types like it or not.

LOL that's a good one....I needed some comedy in this thread

We take no shit from no one.

No....you're more concerned about dishing it out to the other guys.

 

[quickmike]

LOL that's a good one....I needed some comedy in this thread

Straight from the man himself..............

 

[SlapItHigh]

This may not go over too well with the ladies, but IN GENERAL, the concept of women's suffrage (voting rights) is incompatible with individual liberty and limited government..

Uh Max, read your above statement again reeaaal slow. What a contradiction! I appreciate you trying to present an arguement and while you do make some good points, your logic is fatally flawed.

I do agree that in general, there are instinctive roles for men and women. You just haven't summarized them very well with your one sided view. You are completely ignoring anything that women bring to men. Without women, babies wouldn't be able to survive either. Regardless, none of this has anything to do with intelligence.

Individual Liberty. Think about it. You can't have individual liberty when an entire gender is not allowed to vote.

 

[fj45lvr]

Individual Liberty. Think about it. You can't have individual liberty when an entire gender is not allowed to vote.

Tell that to the authors of the Constitution. whether people disagree or NOT things would be much different today if what the founders intended as to voting was still the status quo (that doesn't mean that it was a big error but true none the less)

 

[SlapItHigh]

Tell that to the authors of the Constitution. whether people disagree or NOT things would be much different today if what the founders intended as to voting was still the status quo (that doesn't mean that it was a big error but true none the less)

Huh? Yeah, I understand that cause and effect exists. Every scenario would be different today if *fill in the blank*. Either you don't get the point or you don't understand what individual liberty means.

 

[Revolution9]

Unfortunately some on the group just don't get it.....they NEED republicans to win a republican primary. That's why Randy and his buddies will assist Paul in sealing his defeat....w<snip BS>.

You sir are a malcontent categorizer of people without knowing their true intent and never having met them as well as an agitpropist and control freak. I believe that your mindset is indicative of establishment republicans. And NO..you won't win the primaries with just establishment Republicans. Take a look at the last two straw poll announcement videos where Dr Paul won. Those people that delivered those victories were not Republican in 2004. or 2001 or Democrat in 1996, The establishment Repugs cast their votes for Mitt and Giulian.. They showed no ass nor momentum. We..outside the republican extablishment have grabbed the ball and ran wth it and you are a mistaken hypocrite to try and shut us down or categorise us like some broadbrushing cultural racist. I can claim a police officer, a military man out on his motorcycle, a young black fellow, he artist friend, several folks at the pizza parlor, the head of the local business association and about 6 to 8 others as definite converts who will vote. That was just yesterday and includes about forty giveor take a few souls..and am i just getting warmed up.. I got some local fame here too and if I am politically active that surely turns heads with a "WTF??if he is doing this I need to check this Ron Paul guy out". We also got about six hundred horn honks in two hours and a guy who rode by on a bike saw me decked out in my revolutionary war gear and tricorn museim replica hat waving my Ron Paul 2008 offishul campaign sign and yelled back at us "I dunno who that is but I'm voting for him cuz that guy in the hat is"". Go..Write the leaders of my meetup group and tell them you think guys like me will lose this for Ron. They will know exactly who you are and pay you no mind. They insisted I show up for all the rallies. They know who I am..I could give you Linda's email, who is an older lady from Macon who is probably the hardest core red state Republican who came to our rally and she was pals with Jason and I by the end of it and gave us tons of bumper stickers and slim jims as well as us purchasing some lawn signs she had.( Jason is my 22 year old son) You shall remain a bigot I see.

I am adamantly opposed to your type of mindset. I will fight side by side with your type to get Ron elected and if you would drop your baragrugously bigoted mindset you might find those of us you attempt to broadbrush negatively your staunchest allies. Can you handle that?

Randy

 

[fj45lvr]

Huh? Yeah, I understand that cause and effect exists. Every scenario would be different today if *fill in the blank*. Either you don't get the point or you don't understand what individual liberty means.

You don't get it. The founders understood liberty...they also limited who could vote. Don't mix up the two....you can have liberty and not have the right to vote depending on what the "rule of law" is....if that makes sense...do you think convicted felons have liberty in the U.S.??

 

[fj45lvr]

You sir are a malcontent categorizer of people without knowing their true intent and never having met them as well as an agitpropist and control freak. I believe that your mindset is indicative of establishment republicans. And NO..you won't win the primaries with just establishment Republicans. Take a look at the last two straw poll announcement videos where Dr Paul won. Those people that delivered those victories were not Republican in 2004. or 2001 or Democrat in 1996, The establishment Repugs cast their votes for Mitt and Giulian.. They showed no ass nor momentum. We..outside the republican extablishment have grabbed the ball and ran wth it and you are a mistaken hypocrite to try and shut us down or categorise us like some broadbrushing cultural racist. I can claim a police officer, a military man out on his motorcycle, a young black fellow, he artist friend, several folks at the pizza parlor, the head of the local business association and about 6 to 8 others as definite converts who will vote. That was just yesterday and includes about forty giveor take a few souls..and am i just getting warmed up.. I got some local fame here too and if I am politically active that surely turns heads with a "WTF??if he is doing this I need to check this Ron Paul guy out". We also got about six hundred horn honks in two hours and a guy who rode by on a bike saw me decked out in my revolutionary war gear and tricorn museim replica hat waving my Ron Paul 2008 offishul campaign sign and yelled back at us "I dunno who that is but I'm voting for him cuz that guy in the hat is"". Go..Write the leaders of my meetup group and tell them you think guys like me will lose this for Ron. They will know exactly who you are and pay you no mind. They insisted I show up for all the rallies. They know who I am..I could give you Linda's email, who is an older lady from Macon who is probably the hardest core red state Republican who came to our rally and she was pals with Jason and I by the end of it and gave us tons of bumper stickers and slim jims as well as us purchasing some lawn signs she had.( Jason is my 22 year old son) You shall remain a bigot I see.

I am adamantly opposed to your type of mindset. I will fight side by side with your type to get Ron elected and if you would drop your baragrugously bigoted mindset you might find those of us you attempt to broadbrush negatively your staunchest allies. Can you handle that?

Randy

I'm glad to hear you don't go to republican straw polls and shove signs in people's faces and shout over the top of their talking too.....Good Job Randy, maybe you do have some class and respect.

 

[Gee]

This may not go over too well with the ladies, but IN GENERAL, the concept of women's suffrage (voting rights) is incompatible with individual liberty and limited government..

The framers did not want women to vote because they were under the mistaken impression that they were not intellectually capable of doing it intelligently. It was an error in science amplified by natural gender roles which made women have little reason to seek much of an education. The first place in the world to have women's suffrage was New Jersey in 1776.

The framers only wanted land-owners to be able to vote, because they feared the wealthy would force their employees (often illiterate) to vote for the candidate they supported. I'm all for suffrage, but someone who cannot read and knows nothing of the candidates probably shouldn't be voting because his boss tells him to. Fortunately, we've come a long way since then.

The problem isn't that women seek special protection more than men, its that they sometimes seek it from the government. Most people don't even take the time to think about what government is, so I can hardly blame them. If you think our society has, as a whole, become less free since women's suffrage you're either smoking some good crack, or are only thinking of freedom in terms of white males. Yeah we've taken some steps backward (especially economically), but we've taken a whole lot more forward.

 

[Revolution9]

Depends if your goal is to take over the party or restore it. Randy's goal seems to be the former, which is a goal that Ron Paul doesn't share.

Piss off monkey boy. You cannot just throw insults at me without getting blowback, passive aggressively couched though those insults may be.. I was trying to restore the Republic as far back as 1990 when I finally got a grip on the long range plans. I was alerting citizens long before you began awakening from ypur little snoozefest. I can see your a baseball fan by your avatar. Jocks just never understand artist/musician types. You do things ala the team spirit and ensconce yourself and your identity within a group. I can never do that. That is precisiely what a Republic is. I..the one lone individual who wants to live my life as I and my maker see fit, to express myself as i and my maker see fit and to follow doctrine as only I and my maker see fit is protected from the mob of "team spirit" minded non-individuals who want evrybody to act and think like them.

So..are you for freedom or not? I am a Son Of Liberty. This is about a philosophy..not a man..The Man himself will tell you so.

Randy

 

[Gee]

You don't get it. The founders understood liberty...they also limited who could vote. Don't mix up the two....you can have liberty and not have the right to vote depending on what the "rule of law" is....if that makes sense...do you think convicted felons have liberty in the U.S.??

That is true (such as in Hong Kong under British rule), but keep in mind why the framers chose to have a democratic republic. Voting wasn't put in place because the liked the idea of it, it was a way to prevent tyranny by other forms of government. You can have liberty without suffrage, but it may not necessarily last.

I doubt much would really change if women didn't vote. For the most part men have women's best interests at heart anyways (or think they do). We'd probably have more war-like leaders, which wouldn't be good, and less welfare as well (probably a good thing, but I'll take welfare over war).

 

[fj45lvr]

If you think our society has, as a whole, become less free since women's suffrage you're either smoking some good crack, or are only thinking of freedom in terms of white males. Yeah we've taken some steps backward (especially economically), but we've taken a whole lot more forward.

Some good insight there. I am curious to know what things you see have made us "more free" over the years?? I know slavery is one such damning blot. But I am of the opinion that systematically things have continually evolved the opposite direction and I can't think of where we have gained much if anything...in fact I would be of the opinion that we have to get "permission" for a great majority of what is done privately today.

I also while recognizing that if voting was contained to land owners we would see a different gov. do recognize that most of the federal laws passed are done so by a vast majority of male congressmen.

 

[Wyurm]

hey guys I want to bring the guy that actually filmed that video over here, he's really a nice guy and would be a good asset to the forum, but I dont want to bring him here and have him see this thread loaded with sexist, anarchistic statements. This is all really going nowhere, so if you don't mind, please just let it die.