Romney's Illinois chairman takes Ron Paul sign out and throws it down

[Nefertiti]

What a great line, "Don't let this guy step on your Ron Paul sign."

I kept expecting Charlton Heston to come on and say, "When you pry it out of my cold dead hands!"

Here's a video idea for someone-use the image of his foot on the sign and then segue into the above.

 

[Nefertiti]

Further on the above-this would make a GREAT TV ad in markets where Romney is strong or SC or VT where apparently the flag is popular. You start off with some ominous music in the background, and a deep male voiceover-

You put in the disclaimer that this was not paid for by the official campaign in the beginning.

"At the Illinois State Fair straw poll, Mitt Romney's Illinois campaign chairman, Dan Rutherford, ripped a sign from the hands of a supporter of presidential candidate Ron Paul and handed it to this goon to trample on."

[Here you show him looking defiant and panning to the sign under his foot]

[Then segueway to the image of the flag and have the following line as the voiceover]

"What exactly is it about US Rep. Ron Paul that Mitt Romney doesn't want you to know?"

Then you have a list of the standard bullet points with voiceovers about Ron Paul and end with an image saying "Ron Paul for President 2008" and his Web site

 

[Slugg]

Further on the above-this would make a GREAT TV ad in markets where Romney is strong. You start off with some ominous music in the background, and a deep male voiceover-

You put in the disclaimer that this was not paid for by the official campaign in the beginning.

"At the Illinois State Fair straw poll, Mitt Romney's Illinois campaign chairman, Dan Rutherford, ripped a sign from the hands of a supporter of presidential candidate Ron Paul and handed it to this goon to trample on."

[Here you show him looking defiant and panning to the sign under his foot]

[Then segueway to the image of the flag and have the following line as the voiceover]

"What exactly is it about US Rep. Ron Paul that Mitt Romney doesn't want you to know?"

Then you have a list of the standard bullet points with voiceovers about Ron Paul and end with an image saying "Ron Paul for President 2008" and his Web site

We could do the same thing with clips from FOX,CNN, etc...where they obviously ignore RP...and instead of "WHat Mitt Romney doesn't want you to know." We can say, "What the establishment doesn't want you to know."

 

[Nefertiti]

Jennifer's talking points:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=134264&posted=1#post134264

might work with my idea above.

 

[lucius]

We could do the same thing with clips from FOX,CNN, etc...where they obviously ignore RP...and instead of "WHat Mitt Romney doesn't want you to know." We can say, "What the establishment doesn't want you to know."

This was the topic of an informal Dr. Paul BBQ I was at yesterday. These people are very new to Dr. Paul and are absolutely amazed at the MSM omissions and distortions about Dr. Paul, which later morphed to what else are they lying about? It really is a Revolution...

 

[max]

Clarification on women's suffrage

This may not go over too well with the ladies, but IN GENERAL, the concept of women's suffrage (voting rights) is incompatible with individual liberty and limited government..

A woman has an instinctive need to seek protection and security. In a natural primitive setting, a woman and her babies could only survive if a big strong caveman went out and killed wild animals and fought off rival tribes.

In a modern society, many women can now provide for themselves, but the desire for protection and security remains strong because it is instintive. This is why women are attracted to strong, self confident men and repulsed by weak men.

In the poitical arena, it is to be expected that women will GENERALLY choose "security" over the risks of liberty. It is no accident that in every nation where women were given the right to vote, the nanny state has grown larger and socialism has replaced free markets and limited government. The statists prey upon the emotional nature and "security needs" of women.

With 1/2 the voting population consisting of women, it will be very difficult to do things like getting rid of Homeland "Security", welfare, Deparetment of Education, PATRIOT act etc. Women are also a big constituency of the anti-gun rights crowd.

It is no accident that the same Wilsonian gang that gave us the Fed and the income tax...were also obsessed with women's suffrage. If you think these elite criminals supported women's suffrage because they were such "gentelemen" you are mistaken. They knew it was key to expanding government power!

Not much we can do about it now. This horse left the barn 100 years ago. But, in retrospect, it was a mistake - notwithstanding the very strong and wise women who do support Ron Paul.

 

[jasonhlasvegas]

But there are a ton of women in my MeetUp group. Two just joined us in the span of 12 hours.

 

[max]

jason

If u read my post, i said IN GENERAL...

For example, In GENERAL, most 14 year olds shouldnt be voting...however, I know some 14 year olds who understand the issues very well. But we wouldnt be wise to alllow all 14 years olds to vote because of a few smarter ones...

when the media starts slamming ron paul for wanting to shut down dept of education and homeland security...the female vote will be very dificult..

 

[angelatc]

No. It's about acting like an adult and not acting like some kind of hooligan. Children were there. Cursing in front of children is not acceptable. I don't care WHAT was done.

This person lost us votes. I hope it was worth it.

You're right, it's not acceptable, but as a parent I can tell you it happens. It's called "public." It's really best just to move the kiddies along than try to insult another persons speaking habits, and I'm sure Miss Manners would agree.

It's nothing to get violent over.

 

[angelatc]

I think Max needs to be ignored here in this thread. BUt that's just me.

 

[max]

now u sound like a neo-con lib....ignore ideas rather than actually think about their merits

 

[torchbearer]

that looked like something i read over at fred thompson forum.

 

[allyinoh]

Dag, I'm a little late but that part at the end got my blood boiling a bit... What a douche bag!

I don't think I could have easily walked away as the guy did, it would be really hard for me! lol..

 

[FluffyUnbound]

A Ron Paul supporter swearing and yelling in front of children? I believe it. There are a few anarchists who support Paul, and they are very loud.

I guess it's a testament to his limited gov credentials. If there was a candidate who favored less government than Ron Paul, the anarchists would support that person.

It's true that these jerks cost us votes. But they don't give a f___, and they'll tell you so.

With supporters like this, who needs opponents?

This must be a regional thing, because I am anything but an anarchist. I'm the prototype for a clean-cut upper middle class professional. But I also grew up in New York, and if you rip a sign out of my hands I'm going to curse you out.

It really boggles my mind that many of you people are pretty much openly admitting you don't care who was right and who was wrong, because kids heard "cursing". I have a toddler and if someone violated my physical space by ripping MY sign out of MY hands, I'd curse the guy to high heaven up and down the fairgrounds and I'd be HAPPY for my kid to see it - he'd be learning the appropriate response.

If you're unhappy because kids heard a confrontation, be mad at the person who started the confrontation. Waving a sign at a political rally is not starting a confrontation. Grabbing someone else's sign is. Let me guess, if this guy had punched some Ron Paul supporter in the mouth and other supporters started cursing at him, some of you Ned Flanders types would be lamenting how those "anarchist" cursing Paulicans were driving voters away.

 

[specsaregood]

Waving a sign at a political rally is not starting a confrontation. Grabbing someone else's sign is. Let me guess, if this guy had punched some Ron Paul supporter in the mouth and other supporters started cursing at him, some of you Ned Flanders types would be lamenting how those "anarchist" cursing Paulicans were driving voters away.

Don't even dismiss for a minute that starting a fight was not a possible motive for his actions. I think the RP supporters should have located an officer of the law and gotten their sign back that way.

This story got picked up on another website:
http://www.familytaxpayers.net/article.asp?articleNumber=1433
"The Radar goes on record here to express its disappointment in Sen. Rutherford. We’re very disappointed in your behavior, Dan. Very disappointed. "

 

[Revolution9]

This must be a regional thing, because I am anything but an anarchist. I'm the prototype for a clean-cut upper middle class professional. But I also grew up in New York, and if you rip a sign out of my hands I'm going to curse you out.

It really boggles my mind that many of you people are pretty much openly admitting you don't care who was right and who was wrong, because kids heard "cursing". I have a toddler and if someone violated my physical space by ripping MY sign out of MY hands, I'd curse the guy to high heaven up and down the fairgrounds and I'd be HAPPY for my kid to see it - he'd be learning the appropriate response.

If you're unhappy because kids heard a confrontation, be mad at the person who started the confrontation. Waving a sign at a political rally is not starting a confrontation. Grabbing someone else's sign is. Let me guess, if this guy had punched some Ron Paul supporter in the mouth and other supporters started cursing at him, some of you Ned Flanders types would be lamenting how those "anarchist" cursing Paulicans were driving voters away.

Quoted for pure absolute effing agreement. I ain't ned flanders. Waving a sign at a political rally and getting loud is what it is all about. Get it! We beat that punks guy and he knew it. He was trying what worked in the past..strongarm.. Well I got a size ten and an uproarious rant for him and the cameras. Is calling him an overbeefed, testosterone blindered drooldonkey gonna upset the soccer moms with kids.?? My goodness!! someone got aggressive. They can't do that..The King owns the violence and noise! Trust me.. Kids do not get offended by cusswords.. Their momma does, and of course drags the kiddies front and center to enforce her stupid boundaries by pointing to "the children" who are hearing this. I don't buy it. I am a dad and have kids. And I will bet the mom bitching allows her kids to sit down in front of the mind swill they call prime time TV..and that's just dandy.

Randy

 

[Revolution9]

No doubt this is a HUGE problem.....lose a couple hundred punk "supporters" and potentially gain tens of thousands........

unfortunately, people tend to judge the book by it's cover.....Paul deserves a better "cover" than these quote unquote ANARCHIST types (body piercing, foul mouthed, hemp lovin, primary losin, "supporters" that they are).

no doubt the campaign has some issues to sort out as things snowball out of their control .......it is TRAGIC too, when Paul himself would scold people for saying "red light district" in front of any ladies....wish that was more the impression that folks had of Paul instead of the "Insane clown posse" of a-holes.

Kiss my royal pot smoking, long haired, wild dressed, jackboot hating, non-ned flanders acting ass. I already have gotten more folks on the bandwagin than you and I know that is a fact. Your type will turn off potential converts and you hard core red state ned flanders repugnicans do not have enough votes wthout us to make a fucking dent. Behave yourself and watch who you call names. You may have to stand toe and toe with us or look us in the eye one day. I know I ain't going away. We are taking over the party whether you ned flanders types like it or not. I am 50.. Most of the people I have brought to the party and platform are between 20 and 30..So..they are the FUTURE of the republican party and without them the republican party has no future due to ned flanders type clowns fronting it and thugs like the jerk strongarming doing the dirtywork. Gambit is over and washed up. We take no shit from no one. They behave and keep their mitts off us and all is fine.. Touch me or my crew and there will be hell to pay.

Don't Tread On Me!
Randy

 

[Revolution9]

No. It's about acting like an adult and not acting like some kind of hooligan.
.

Tell that to The Sons Of Liberty. If they followed the hidden meaning of your advice we would be singting "God Save The Queen".

Randy

 

[quickmike]

Quoted for pure absolute effing agreement. I ain't ned flanders. Waving a sign at a political rally and getting loud is what it is all about. Get it! We beat that punks guy and he knew it. He was trying what worked in the past..strongarm.. Well I got a size ten and an uproarious rant for him and the cameras. Is calling him an overbeefed, testosterone blindered drooldonkey gonna upset the soccer moms with kids.?? My goodness!! someone got aggressive. They can't do that..The King owns the violence and noise! Trust me.. Kids do not get offended by cusswords.. Their momma does, and of course drags the kiddies front and center to enforce her stupid boundaries by pointing to "the children" who are hearing this. I don't buy it. I am a dad and have kids. And I will bet the mom bitching allows her kids to sit down in front of the mind swill they call prime time TV..and that's just dandy.

Randy

Thats a big problem in todays society I think. So many people want to put their kids in a little plastic bubble where they cant be exposed to any of the realities of life. One of these realities is that at times, there will be confrontations between adults in public, and sometimes those confrontations get nasty. George Carlin said it best when he said people have a "child fetish" in this country. Helmets, scheduled platimes, and other nonsense. Like somehow, a child hearing a curse word is going to do them some kind of harm. After all, how can someone truly be harmed by certain letters arranged in a certain order to make a word? Im not saying walk around cussing at your kids and all that. Im just saying, if it happens to occur in public, and you are with your child, best thing you can do is cover their ears if you want and laugh it off. Theyre gonna hear stuff like that in their life at some point, and I dont know any adults that have been done any harm in their lives by hearing someone swear when they were children. Sure it can be looked at as disrespectful, but come on, its not really that big a deal compared your child watching the news seeing stories about people getting their limbs blown off in Iraq.

 

[LibertyEagle]

now u sound like a neo-con lib....ignore ideas rather than actually think about their merits

I did think about their merits, that is why I agree with angelatc, that you should be ignored in this thread.