Riots in London

[Mini-Me]

No I can't, and you know it. I will never see that $430 again. You know damn well I can "petition", but that they will never give ti back, or change their stupid laws. They stole from me, because they could, and they need that money to run their bureaucracy.



Yeah, that is me, I was just making sure he didn't have any weapons on him. I scored some cash, which I knew he got from selling drugs, and a nice watch too, which I also knew he got from selling drugs. And those jeans, yeah, he is definitely a drug dealer. I am putting it in a locker for a few years, and then I am going to sell it at an auction, so I can use it to pay myself.

The entire "law enforcement" apparatus is hopelessly corrupt, and it's endemic to the system. Most people here get that.

Where you go wrong is with crap like this:

So if I see a riot in my city, guess what? I'm putting a hood on and smashing things. Because I know damn well nobody in city hall gives a flying fuck. They need their $80,000 a year salaries too much to be bothered by the plight of some knave.

So, since you've been wronged, and since the government is corrupt, that now gives you the right to commit similar wrongs to whomever you want? You're pissed at the cops and general corruption, so you're going to smash in Mr. Wilson's car and set fire to his bakery? Go ahead and steal your neighbor's stereo and TV while he isn't looking, too. You've been wronged, and someone should pay!

I have no idea what's going on with the shooting itself. Odds are, the cops lied completely. After all, that's what cops tend to do whenever things look bad. What happened definitely warrants scrutiny, probably warrants outrage, and quite possibly warrants severe targeted consequences. It doesn't warrant widespread looting and wanton destruction of anything you can get your hands on. That's the kind of action that collectivist brutes take.

 

[showpan]

That ^^^ right there. Those who steal property in my AO will be shot. Those who attack others in my AO will be shot. Those who vandalize other's property in my AO will be shot.

I and my associates stand for civilization, the rule of law, and the Constitution of the United States.Our duty is to protect the rights and property of our fellow citizens against the umbrages of land pirates and their ilk.

This is what good neighbors are for, we are well armed and have an agreement to protect each other's property.

 

[UWDude]

Very seldom do I -rep on this board,

Go for it. I don't care.

but the temptation to do so is growing stronger with each of your posts which lead me to believe you have no respect for the rights of people not to be assaulted or their property destroyed based on your concept of "social justice".

When you get to the point that random violence is acceptable, than there should be no surprise when you are the target of said violence.

Of course I do, I just don't care much for the Brits, when they, of all people, deserve a little violence in their lives. I wish it was a bunch of Libyans, Iraqis and Afghanis were doing it to Britain. And I wish they were bombing them mercilessly, while CNN and FOX and Al Jazeera cheered them on.

Because the British people are not going to stop disrespecting rights of people not to be assaulted or their property destroyed in nations all over the world.

yeah, I'm happy to see Britain burning. They deserve it. Yeah it's random, so what, that's the way it is when they rain down torture on people all over the world. And that is the way they have always operated. Live by the random violence sword, die by the random violence sword.

That's the kind of action that collectivist brutes take.

Is there any other option anymore in Britain? How else do you fight collectivist brutes except with more collectivist brutes. Sorry, the world sucks, and all it is is a bunch of thick skulled collectivist brutes. Some operate under color of law and veneer of civilization, and some don't, but in the end, they all are a bunch of selfish pigs taking from one another however they can.

 

[Pericles]

This is what good neighbors are for, we are well armed and have an agreement to protect each other's property.

Yep - got rifles?

Got ammo?

 

[Mini-Me]

yeah, I'm happy to see Britain burning. They deserve it. Yeah it's random, so what, that's the way it is when they rain down torture on people all over the world. And that is the way they have always operated. Live by the random violence sword, die by the random violence sword.

The same goes for the US government, and you're an American, so obviously that's the way YOU have always operated too, and it's nothing less than you personally deserve. Right? Of course, maybe you do, given you seem to live by the random violence sword, as you say. There are a bunch of people here, and in London, and all over the world who very much do not live by that sword, however.

Is there any other option anymore in Britain? How else do you fight collectivist brutes except with more collectivist brutes. Sorry, the world sucks, and all it is is a bunch of thick skulled collectivist brutes. Some operate under color of law and veneer of civilization, and some don't, but in the end, they all are a bunch of selfish pigs taking from one another however they can.

Are you projecting your own flaws onto others here? If you're going to be a vigilante, at least be an individualist vigilante. Otherwise, you're not fighting the collectivist brutes in charge in the first place. Instead, you're indiscriminately attacking your friends, your neighbors, your family...the very people who have suffered alongside you, and the very people who have been just as powerless as you to stop the beast (or at the very least, too deluded to understand what's going on). Meanwhile, the people in charge are totally insulated from your attacks, and they're laughing their asses off over the hoi polloi eating each other. To me, that sounds a lot like a boot stomping on a human face...forever. Do you WANT humanity to sink to the lowest common denominator?

 

[UWDude]

guns are mostly illegal in Britain. And the young man was killed by the gun investigation task force, because he had a gun. he probably had a gun because he was surrounded by the very people that are going around rioting and looting because nobody has guns.

 

[Corey]

UWDude you talk a lot of complete bullshit, even for a troll. There is a general consensus here that liberty does not = anarchy. Historically, even anarchists would be on the side of those here defending property and innocent lives.

You are a complete tool. Take some more classes from your Marxist professors at UW, and keep believing that you came up with the inane thoughts that inhabit your empty head.

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[Zippyjuan]

The sad thing about riots is that they actually most harm the people protesting the tough conditions. Not enough jobs? Sure, lets burn down the ones around here. Angry that the police killed somebody? Let's kill other people and destroy property. Want the police out? Rioting invites even more of them in. In london, one family had their business burned down- it had been in the family for over 140 years and survived two world wars and the Great Depression.

 

[UWDude]

 

[UWDude]

UWDude you talk a lot of complete bullshit, even for a troll. There is a general consensus here that liberty does not = anarchy. Historically, even anarchists would be on the side of those here defending property and innocent lives.

You are a complete tool. Take some more classes from your Marxist professors at UW, and keep believing that you came up with the inane thoughts that inhabit your empty head.

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Pfft, Aug 2007, 11 posts. Sock puppet account. Nice one, troll.

You all are saying this is just thugs trying to get free tvs, which is exactly what the Bomb happy BBC and the Hacking Murdoch tabloid press want you to think. You cant see this is the result of pent up frustration over powerlessness and complete disregard by the UK government for the plight of their underclasses. They are attacking police stations and cars too. They are looting and ransacking stores for the sake of ransacking and burning. This is rage of the oppressed manifest. And guess what? IT IS ONLY GOING TO GET WORSE, AND IT IS COMING TO AMERICA.

As one rioter put it: "We see on the news all the time everyone is getting everything for free, we figure, why can't we?"

Ill add to that, "we see on the news everybody in high power getting away with crimes every day, so we figured, why not us too?"

 

[silverhandorder]

Does not change the fact that they are attacking 3rd parties. Why don't they attack the police head quarters or the parliament? They would get their asses handed to them. So they instead opt out to steal some TV's and electronics.

 

[Nate-ForLiberty]

 

[silverhandorder]

Pfft, Aug 2007, 11 posts. Sock puppet account. Nice one, troll.

You all are saying this is just thugs trying to get free tvs, which is exactly what the Bomb happy BBC and the Hacking Murdoch tabloid press want you to think. You cant see this is the result of pent up frustration over powerlessness and complete disregard by the UK government for the plight of their underclasses. They are attacking police stations and cars too. They are looting and ransacking stores for the sake of ransacking and burning. This is rage of the oppressed manifest. And guess what? IT IS ONLY GOING TO GET WORSE, AND IT IS COMING TO AMERICA.

As one rioter put it: "We see on the news all the time everyone is getting everything for free, we figure, why can't we?"

Ill add to that, "we see on the news everybody in high power getting away with crimes every day, so we figured, why not us too?"

Sorry but I would like to see the proof where they are attacking police and government buildings. All I see is mugging of innocent people and destruction of private property.

 

[Cowlesy]

Pfft, Aug 2007, 11 posts. Sock puppet account. Nice one, troll.

You all are saying this is just thugs trying to get free tvs, which is exactly what the Bomb happy BBC and the Hacking Murdoch tabloid press want you to think. You cant see this is the result of pent up frustration over powerlessness and complete disregard by the UK government for the plight of their underclasses. They are attacking police stations and cars too. They are looting and ransacking stores for the sake of ransacking and burning. This is rage of the oppressed manifest. And guess what? IT IS ONLY GOING TO GET WORSE, AND IT IS COMING TO AMERICA.

As one rioter put it: "We see on the news all the time everyone is getting everything for free, we figure, why can't we?"

Ill add to that, "we see on the news everybody in high power getting away with crimes every day, so we figured, why not us too?"

Right, because this guy is watching the news, pining for the days the government will get off his back and let free markets and an open society prevail. Or actually since the UK government has "complete disregard for the plight of their underclasses", this young man is actually yearning for more handouts beyond his free healthcare and free education provided by the taxpayers.

It's just never enough, is it.

Clearly, this youth is making a "political statement."

Oppressed I tell you, oppressed!

 

[awake]

Bill Clinton started a war to sidetrack the Big Lewinsky scandal. Once you understand that these things can be done for political purposes then understanding the London riots are of little wonder.

Has any one heard of the Murdoch phone tap scandal that was about to implicate a sitting Prime-minister and his police lately? Nope, mission accomplished.

This is all a well timed cover/distraction for the criminals; that's why there are riots.

 

[Jack Bauer]

You go England you! God bless you, the Queen and your multi-culturalism.

Show the rest of the world how its done.

I mean clearly, these yutes are oppressed and are just asking for their basic 'uman rights.

Don't keep the yutes don't. Don't be greedy oppressors. Some people in England are still capitalist pigs and they think that what they paid for (like clothes, iphones, xboxes, etc.) belong to them but they should realize that we are here to share the wealth with everyone and its just good for the society as a whole.

So, go get 'em Ingurland. I am with you.

 

[UWDude]

Or actually since the UK government has "complete disregard for the plight of their underclasses", this young man is actually yearning for more handouts beyond his free healthcare and free education provided by the taxpayers.

Yes, they also have cameras watching their every move. They are owned and powerless. Most probably have no idea why. But you can be blind, and still know you are covered in shit.

Oppressed I tell you, oppressed!

These are not political actors, but this is a political reaction.

You go England you! God bless you, the Queen and your multi-culturalism.

Where are the Turks that are hated so much by English Nationalists in this? They have banded together, created street watches, and vowed none of their businesses will be hurt. Maybe the English could learn a thing or two from their Muslim neighbors.

Sorry but I would like to see the proof where they are attacking police and government buildings. All I see is mugging of innocent people and destruction of private property.

Search and ye shall find.

 

[silverhandorder]

You made the claim you should be the one proving it.

 

[Jack Bauer]

Where are the Turks that are hated so much by English Nationalists in this? They have banded together, created street watches, and vowed none of their businesses will be hurt. Maybe the English could learn a thing or two from their Muslim neighbors.

Of course they can. But they are too politically correct, have their heads shoved up their multicultural asses and probably see anybody forming a street watch group as "raycist".

Immigration policy (irrespective of the race, religion and culture of the immigrants) in a nation should be that of assimilation. Not "diversity".

PS: I am an immigrant. 1st gen.

 

[UWDude]

You made the claim you should be the one proving it.

Here. I'll teach you how to use google:

1. go to www.google.com

2. type "attacking police and government buildings london riots" in the search bar

3. browse