Rick Santorum Blames Gay Marriage, Abortion And Porn Ideals On College Indoctrination

[dannno]

I find it ridiculous that evangelicals act like there is a "war on Christianity" when the exact opposite is happening. How many television channels are out there that are solely dedicated to Christians. How many radio stations out there? How often can you drive around without seeing some billboard or running into someone passing out some pamphlet tell you about how "Jesus saves." How many times have you had someone knock on your door telling you to turn to Christ? How many times do you hear someone "thank Jesus their Lord and Savior" or their award speeches and when they score touchdowns in a football game.

Yet that isn't enough, the evangelicals are claiming THEY are the victims here and that those evil gay people are trying to spread their culture. This whole claim that colleges are now joining in on this "war on Christianity" is just another example of this. Go onto any college campus, I GUARANTEE you there is a christian chapel on campus. There is probably no Temple, Mosque, or Synagogue but almost always a Christian chapel of some kind. Yet that isn't enough, more must be done because there is a War on Christianity you see. I say this as a Catholic person myself, born and raised.

Drop the victim's routine. It doesn't add up.

Where do you live? Sounds awful. I don't know that we even get a Christian tv channel here, there's honestly barely any sign they exist. I'm in a more progressive area near so cal tho.

I was actually flabbergasted to find out that one of my roommates we found on craigslist went to church (AFTER living with him for a couple of months..). I was outside one Sunday morning and he was coming home in a suit, and I was like, "where the fuck did you just go in a suit on Sunday??" and he was like, "Uhh, church.."

 

[anaconda]

It's a good bet that he is IN he closet.

-t

And I am not insincere when I say that it appears that he is desperate to come out. I feel sorry for him to an extent.

 

[amy31416]

And Ron Paul strongly disagrees with you.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul148.html

Part of the "War on Religion" has to do with the Christians who use their religion to try to dictate (using the gov't) who you should love, who we should kill and how you should live.

Perhaps Christians should take note of Jesus' actions--he inspired the religion without a single law being passed, a cent in tax money or any attempts to tell you who you should and should not love. It just might go a long way.

 

[gwax23]

Wtf, are you in a private school or something?

I would say LGBT issues were the biggest push when I was in school. Everybody was already pro-choice. Porn was just something that every guy utilized and a couple of activists may have been against the 'degradation of women' or something, but nobody took them seriously.

But the thing is, gay marriage is a no-brainer. There is no reason the government shouldn't allow gay people to get married, what a tyrannical notion. Even if I were against the idea of gay marriage, I still wouldn't use the government to ban it. I would probably vote w/ Ron Paul at the federal level because states should be allowed to ban it, but it's still a tyrannical thing for them to do.

I never understood why its okay for State Governments to be oppressive as long as the federal government isnt. Government is government. It shouldnt be oppressive on the Federal or State level.

 

[anaconda]

I never understood why its okay for State Governments to be oppressive as long as the federal government isnt. Government is government. It shouldnt be oppressive on the Federal or State level.

Ding Ding. We have a winner!

Except that 50 competing governments adds a whole new wrinkle. But with federal intervention we've seen that all 50 states can become corrupt and indistinguishable from the federal menace.

 

[samforpaul]

Thank you Rick Santorum.

 

[Giuliani was there on 911]

He's party right but the media and hollywood are more to blame

 

[idiom]

He's party right but the media and hollywood are more to blame

Why can't individuals be to blame? State institutions are only forcing committed individuals to have abortions. It might be claimed that the SEC forces some to watch pornography, but I don't know how you leap to the idea that going to college makes you may people of the same gender.

What if it turns out that individuals are weighing options and finding that the ideas Santorum supports simply don't have a lot of merit?

 

[dannno]

I never understood why its okay for State Governments to be oppressive as long as the federal government isnt. Government is government. It shouldnt be oppressive on the Federal or State level.

It's not "ok" at all, it's just a better alternative to letting the feds control the states.

 

[NorfolkPCSolutions]

I don't care if homos want to get married, any less than I care if heteros get married. I don't give a shit if you want to kill your unborn child, just don't sugar coat the idea with the "It's my body, it's my choice" bullshit sauce. I love porn. LOVE it. loveitloveitloveitloveit. I've never once set foot in college classroom as a student.

Frothy, you closeted PRICK - you're wrong again, asshole!!! Go back into your hidey-hole somewhere, enjoy your gay porn, and get the hell out of the news. No one cares.

 

[Brett85]

Part of the "War on Religion" has to do with the Christians who use their religion to try to dictate (using the gov't) who you should love, who we should kill and how you should live.

Perhaps Christians should take note of Jesus' actions--he inspired the religion without a single law being passed, a cent in tax money or any attempts to tell you who you should and should not love. It just might go a long way.

Non Christian liberals try to dictate to others how they should live far more than Christians do. Christian conservatives at least don't support passing laws which force people to violate their concience, as the liberals do with their Obamacare mandate which forces private companies to cover abortion pills in their health insurance plans.

 

[amy31416]

Non Christian liberals try to dictate to others how they should live far more than Christians do. Christian conservatives at least don't support passing laws which force people to violate their concience, as the liberals do with their Obamacare mandate which forces private companies to cover abortion pills in their health insurance plans.

I think it's just about equal, and Christian conservatives do support passing laws that force people to violate their conscience with regularity. Laws that force people to support Israel's gov't, for instance. Laws that force people to financially support killing foreigners, while forbidding support of those who they disapprove of (lest they be labeled a terrorist.) Laws that force people to fund bigger police forces to kill or violate someone who's using a drug that they do not approve of.

You need more?

 

[gwax23]

Ding Ding. We have a winner!

Except that 50 competing governments adds a whole new wrinkle. But with federal intervention we've seen that all 50 states can become corrupt and indistinguishable from the federal menace.

I doubt federal government can be blamed for state corruption and...well...statism.

State governments are governments. I know theres a lot of strict constitutionalism on these forums who think just deferring everything to the state government will make things better. For the most part it wont. They are still governments and they will take and take and take, regulate regulate and regulate and eventually destroy.

 

[James Madison]

Part of the "War on Religion" has to do with the Christians who use their religion to try to dictate (using the gov't) who you should love, who we should kill and how you should live.

Perhaps Christians should take note of Jesus' actions--he inspired the religion without a single law being passed, a cent in tax money or any attempts to tell you who you should and should not love. It just might go a long way.

Prohibiting the state from recognizing same-sex marriages does not equate to dictating who they should love. No one is seriously talking about banning homosexual relationships. Unless you're talking about polygamy.

I'm not for government recognizing any marriage, but when you makes these types of hyperbolic statements it weakens your argument.

I've repeatedly demonstrated on these forums how the pro-life position is the scientific one.

 

[James Madison]

I think it's just about equal, and Christian conservatives do support passing laws that force people to violate their conscience with regularity. Laws that force people to support Israel's gov't, for instance. Laws that force people to financially support killing foreigners, while forbidding support of those who they disapprove of (lest they be labeled a terrorist.) Laws that force people to fund bigger police forces to kill or violate someone who's using a drug that they do not approve of.

You need more?

Everything you just rattled off has bipartisan support from Christians, Jews, and Atheists. Try again...

 

[Brett85]

I think it's just about equal, and Christian conservatives do support passing laws that force people to violate their conscience with regularity. Laws that force people to support Israel's gov't, for instance. Laws that force people to financially support killing foreigners, while forbidding support of those who they disapprove of (lest they be labeled a terrorist.) Laws that force people to fund bigger police forces to kill or violate someone who's using a drug that they do not approve of.

You need more?

I consider myself to be a Christian conservative, and I don't support any of those things. I think you're generalizing too much.

 

[amy31416]

Everything you just rattled off has bipartisan support from Christians, Jews, and Atheists. Try again...

The most support in this country comes from Christian "conservatives." Jews and atheists are in the minority with these issues, and you know that's true.

Regardless, all those things I listed do force other people to violate their conscience, so stop trying to change the topic.

 

[Brett85]

The most support in this country comes from Christian "conservatives." Jews and atheists are in the minority with these issues, and you know that's true.

Regardless, all those things I listed do force other people to violate their conscience, so stop trying to change the topic.

Christian conservatives are more strongly in favor of giving foreign aid to Israel than American Jews are?

 

[amy31416]

I consider myself to be a Christian conservative, and I don't support any of those things. I think you're generalizing too much.

Do you deny that most do? You made some generalizations, and sometimes that's reasonable. I completely allow and recognize that most Christians here do not support such things.

 

[amy31416]

Christian conservatives are more strongly in favor of giving foreign aid to Israel than American Jews are?

I believe so, yes.