Republicans want Tax Hikes (for the Poor) (except Ron Paul)

[harikaried]

Most of the article talks about Republican candidates making everyone pay taxes including the poor.
http://www.slate.com/id/2302131/pagenum/all

But at the end, they point to Ron Paul:

There is a Republican case against making sure that poorer people pay income taxes. It's being made by Ron Paul.

"Dr. Paul doesn't want to be president so he can raise taxes on anyone, especially on the poor and middle class," says Ron Paul's spokesman, Jesse Benton. "If half of the American people don't pay income taxes, then we are halfway to our goal of eliminating it for everyone."

 

[dannno]

Republicans for Tax Hikes
Republicans have finally found a group they want to tax: poor people.

The paper asked Huntsman if "the half of American households no longer paying income tax—mainly working poor families and seniors—should be brought onto the income tax rolls."

He agreed, crediting the GOP's current front-runner for vice president, Sen. Marco Rubio, with the insight that "we don't have enough people paying taxes in this country."

Wow... friggin sickos.. and Republicans wonder why Ron Paul supporters won't support other Republican candidates..

 

[amy31416]

They need more money for more war. I hope it backfires on them when many of their "base" of working-class Christian Republicans figure out that this means a tax hike for them. And they're practically frothing at the mouth trying to pick their pockets.

Perhaps we should let them know that.

 

[Agorism]

Man this would make for an awesome commercial if it could be done right.

 

[YumYum]

This is proof that the division in this country is the rich versus the poor. And why poor people want to defend the rich, makes no sense at all.

 

[specsaregood]

He agreed, crediting the GOP's current front-runner for vice president, Sen. Marco Rubio, with the insight that "we don't have enough people paying taxes in this country."

Good luck with that VP pick GOP, unless of course you want to lose to Obama....oh wait....

 

[swiftfoxmark2]

There is no such thing as rich, poor, and middle class in America. There is only producer, looter, and moocher.

 

[Schiff_FTW]

I have to (reluctantly) agree with the mainstream Repubs on this one. The fact that 50% don't pay federal income tax (yet still vote) is directly correlated with the massive size of the federal government. That seems pretty obvious to me.

 

[kahless]

I have had to keep my radio turned off. The Neocon angry talking point I keep hearing is the poor are not paying their fair share and that they are not doing enough to contribute to society and federal government. If your unemployed and are not paying federal income tax, this makes the Neocons nuts. Sick bastards.

 

[YumYum]

There is no such thing as rich, poor, and middle class in America. There is only producer, looter, and moocher.

And as bosso pointed out on another thread, 95% of the producers (small businesses), are being looted (taxed), by the moochers (government).

 

[amy31416]

Man this would make for an awesome commercial if it could be done right.

That it could.

"We should be doing this even if we had a balanced budget," says Hodge. "This is not really about deficit reduction."

It's about control. It's about opening the door to screw over anyone and everyone into paying for their lavish lifestyles, wars, banker pals, junkets, foreign bribes (aid), their medical treatments, their pensions--it's about making sure that nobody, not even the (coming soon!) mentally ill, homeless vets from the Middle Eastern wars can escape paying the king.

 

[j6p]

I have to (reluctantly) agree with the mainstream Repubs on this one. The fact that 50% don't pay federal income tax (yet still vote) is directly correlated with the massive size of the federal government. That seems pretty obvious to me.

So its ok to tax people who dont have much, but lets have less tax for the people who make more. Your logic does not make sense.

 

[dannno]

I have to (reluctantly) agree with the mainstream Repubs on this one. The fact that 50% don't pay federal income tax (yet still vote) is directly correlated with the massive size of the federal government. That seems pretty obvious to me.

Then we should probably educate them about the inflation tax, which they have been paying since 1913.

 

[j6p]

It starts to get irritating when you have small businesses in non productive enterprises and they wonder why they aren't doing well.

 

[Schiff_FTW]

Then we should probably educate them about the inflation tax, which they have been paying since 1913.

Of course, but people don't think in seemingly abstract terms like that. Being forced to write a check to the IRS every year is very clear cut.

 

[YumYum]

Great thread. This will finally get some people to wake up.

 

[kahless]

I have to (reluctantly) agree with the mainstream Repubs on this one. The fact that 50% don't pay federal income tax (yet still vote) is directly correlated with the massive size of the federal government. That seems pretty obvious to me.

You have millions not working, not receiving an income and not receiving anything from the federal government. So you would tax them since you brought into the Neocon bullshit talking point. God forbid they do not get their pound of flesh for their big government departments, programs and foreign wars.

 

[amy31416]

I have to (reluctantly) agree with the mainstream Repubs on this one. The fact that 50% don't pay federal income tax (yet still vote) is directly correlated with the massive size of the federal government. That seems pretty obvious to me.

So in your mind, those 50% are all fat women, sitting around having babies and driving swanky cars? Uhh, no. That would also be people who are lower-middle class--->middle class. People who work in shops, hair salons, restaurants, students trying to pay tuition, babysitters, welders, people trying to start a small business, lab techs, receptionists, etc...people who may very well have ambitions to get ahead, or get their kids ahead.

And you want them to be taxed more? On top of all the other ways they're taxed? Hell, I defend not taxing the rich all the time--no way in hell that there's a good argument to tax the lower-income people.

 

[dannno]

Of course, but people don't think in seemingly abstract terms like that. Being forced to write a check to the IRS every year is very clear cut.

But they're already getting taxed very heavily, they just don't know it. If we got rid of the inflation tax, then I might consider a 'flatter' tax structure, as long as overall taxes are reduced and spending is heavily reduced. However this would be better done through a sales tax than an income tax.

 

[Schiff_FTW]

You have millions not working, not receiving an income and not receiving anything from the federal government. So you would tax them since you brought into the Neocon bullshit talking point. God forbid they do not get their pound of flesh for their big government departments, programs and foreign wars.

I'm confused. I didn't buy into anything. Many of the people who support the "big government departments, programs and foreign wars" are the ones who do not pay any taxes. All I'm saying is if they paid taxes they would be less likely to vote that way.