Republican Presidential Debate to Exclude Ron Paul

[JoshLowry]

No, because Taco John is an asshole with a history of posting bullshit.

http://www.iowagop.net/eventscalender.asp?page=2

maybe its me but I dont see anything for that date. Am I missing something here?

Personal attacks are not allowed.

Read the guidelines please.

 

[Hook]

There is some discrepency about which polls need to be 5% though.

 

[American]

It's already been confirmed. I fought this battle this morning. I'm not going to do it again for late comers who are name calling without bothering to read.

Is it in this thread?

I find it hard to believe you cant provide a link to something to substantiate your claim here.

Its not on the Iowa GOP site and I cant find anything about FOX either.

 

[austin356]

If Ron is excluded we:

1)hold a rally of 10,000 next door
2)play commercials equal to what his air time should have been

 

[Paulite5112007]

In this thread and in other threads other people have idependantly verified this - included in the other thread (earlier in this one?) is a link to a press release documenting the requirements.

Its been cofirmed by mutilple people independently.

 

[walt]

If Ron is excluded we:

1)hold a rally of 10,000 next door
2)play commercials equal to what his air time should have been

Do you really think they'd sell them to us? It is the same network.

 

[Hook]

If Ron is excluded we:

1)hold a rally of 10,000 next door
2)play commercials equal to what his air time should have been

I don't think they sell commercials in 5 second spots

 

[Taco John]

Is it in this thread?

I find it hard to believe you cant provide a link to something to substantiate your claim here.

Its not on the Iowa GOP site and I cant find anything about FOX either.

I spent hours this morning fighting this battle. It's been OVERWHELMINGLY substantiated. All you have to do is read this thread. All of the information is in it MULTIPLE times.

 

[me3]

Ron has not been excluded yet. Sit tight folks. Dn't get hung up on this and stop working.

Keep working!

 

[The Good Doctor]

Yeah the news media had more on Nancy Grace having twins than Ron Paul news.

This really is infuriating, I think on a domestic level Fox News is the most dangerous organization in the country because of the distorted role it plays in public opinion. Thats not to say that the others are much better, but Fox is far and away the most manipulative, dishonest, and damaging.

For God's sake, we are the people here....We swing the votes, we donate the money, we pay the advertisers, and we make the decisions. There has got to be some way we can get around Fox News, there must be some way to bypass them all together.

I think eventually, we need to stop thinking about simply boycotting Fox and start thinking about exposing this dishonesty on a NATIONAL level.... In a world so full of distortion and dishonesty, there is simply no room for this kind of media abuse.


The world needs to know that Fox News is just a glorified 24 hour Nancy Grace with cool graphics!!! NOT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY!

 

[freelance]

John Taco is right. It has been confirmed through multiple sources. You'll just have to wade through all of the threads. To be really clear, AS OF NOW, he's not met the requirements, but that could change.

Now, here's the real scoop. Ron Paul has to garner 5% of national polls, polls of FOX NEWS' choosing before the debates, national polls of their choosing right before the debates. Who the hell knows what polls they'll choose.

 

[Paulite5112007]

http://www.iowagop.net/shownews.asp?artid=33

*Verified*

 

[walt]

http://www.iowagop.net/shownews.asp?artid=33

*Verified*

DO NOT CALL THIS NUMBER.... Contact: Mary Tiffany (515) 282-8105

Call the Iowa Ron Paul HQ at (515) 280-1136

It is FOX, not the Iowa GOP - The Ron Paul Iowa people do NOT want people contacting the Iowa GOP - I REPEAT - DO NOT CONTACT THE IOWA GOP.

These guys need to hear our voices as "likely voters"

American Research Group, Inc. 814 Elm Street Manchester, NH 03101 603/624-4081

 

[fj45lvr]

Well as someone who buys commercial time I would say that the odds are pretty better than not that the slots are already filled. I am sure this is "prime" advertising...

We are on the verge right now. We can't let the thugs take us out now without FIGHTING back. Get 40000 people to surround this debate location.....jam the streets full of parked trucks and cars. And have a single DECLARATION OF LIBERTY posted all over the place!! NO OTHER WORDS need to be spoken out loud. NO yelling, nothing. A DECLARATION and A SMOTHERING WALL of PEOPLE

 

[American]

John Taco is right. It has been confirmed through multiple sources. You'll just have to wade through all of the threads. To be really clear, AS OF NOW, he's not met the requirements, but that could change.

Now, here's the real scoop. Ron Paul has to garner 5% of national polls, polls of FOX NEWS' choosing before the debates, national polls of their choosing right before the debates. Who the hell knows what polls they'll choose.

I dont get it, these poll numbers are 30 days old, isnt there any new poll numbers?

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071007/NEWS09/71005048/-1/caucus

Brownback isnt even in the race anymore?

 

[fj45lvr]

NEWSFLASH:

bush from today: "the United States will not IGNORE your OPPRESSION" (to musharif)

So IRONIC isn't it.

 

[Paulite5112007]

I dont get it, these poll numbers are 30 days old, isnt there any new poll numbers?

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071007/NEWS09/71005048/-1/caucus

Brownback isnt even in the race anymore?

No word yet on when the new poll will be. As it stands, there is no way FOX will let him poll at over 5% nationally. That leaves us with having to average at least 5% across the two other polls. By the wording of the press release, this would automatically allow him to join as FOX only uses discretion on a national level. This makes sense - make 5% in Iowa polling and you can debate in Iowa. Period. While I dont agree with it coinsidering the 5% margin of error - its their playground and they have all the toys.

 

[jake]

A special forum should be created to discuss the action plan to deal with this attempted exclusion! Remember: THE POLL FOX WILL USE TO QUALIFY WHO WILL BE IN THE DEBATE WILL BE A FOX NEWS POLL! What a load of crap. People are NOT this stupid. this will backfire on Fox.

I can see this shaping up to be THE defining battle of the Ron Paul campaign!

Prepare to fight Fox tooth and nail, this is utter disregard to democracy and corporate pandering at it worst.

 

[American]

No word yet on when the new poll will be. As it stands, there is no way FOX will let him poll at over 5% nationally. That leaves us with having to average at least 5% across the two other polls. By the wording of the press release, this would automatically allow him to join as FOX only uses discretion on a national level. This makes sense - make 5% in Iowa polling and you can debate in Iowa. Period. While I dont agree with it coinsidering the 5% margin of error - its their playground and they have all the toys.

http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/

As for the Republican CNN national poll, the Republicans are all doing better than they ever have. Ron Paul is at 5%, Duncan Hunter is at 4%, even Tom Tancredo is at 3%. The Unsure vote is dwindling as well.

Not that this means anything, but he will surely go up then down. If not I say we riot and burn buildings.

 

[Mortikhi]

DO NOT CALL THIS NUMBER.... Contact: Mary Tiffany (515) 282-8105

Call the Iowa Ron Paul HQ at (515) 280-1136

It is FOX, not the Iowa GOP - The Ron Paul Iowa people do NOT want people contacting the Iowa GOP - I REPEAT - DO NOT CONTACT THE IOWA GOP.

These guys need to hear our voices as "likely voters"

American Research Group, Inc. 814 Elm Street Manchester, NH 03101 603/624-4081

"Its not us, we're just following orders!!!!!", cry the jackboots

Horsesh*t I say