Recommendations for semi-auto rifle? (CA)

[Anti Federalist]

BTW, another superb battle rifle is the FAL. It is easily as reliable as an AK but far more accurate and powerful (308 Win.). The hitch would be legality in the Peoples' Craphole of Kalifornia. I would also limit purchases to those manufactured in Belgium or Australia. There may be other well made ones, but I am not aware of any. There are a few of less-than manufacture.

Never buy a shitty weapon. Save the pennies and get a top drawer gun. Your ass may rely upon it one day.

This is a DSA FN/FAL derivative

DSA makes a whole series of FN/FAL rifles that are Commiefornia legal.

www.dsarms.com

 

[bg1654]

Check this out. Near top quality ar-15 type for a "poor quality" price.

http://www.spikestactical.com/z/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=113&products_id=387

 

[Uriel999]

Check this out. Near top quality ar-15 type for a "poor quality" price.

http://www.spikestactical.com/z/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=113&products_id=387

correction, TOP QAULITY! Spikes is top of the line. They make great stuff!

 

[pcosmar]

Ok, I am going to offer some alternatives.
(I'm just like that)
On the semi auto side. Since you are in California any of the "battle" rifles will have been neutered. There are other good rifles available, in hunting models.
http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/family.asp?webflag_=002B&catalog_=B
http://www.remington.com/product-families/firearms/centerfire-families/autoloading-model-750.aspx
But I also would suggest an alternative to these.

When I was young, I had semi auto .22s. Ammo was cheap and I did a lot of plinking. And wasted ammo. I got a pump .22. It gave me a fast followup shot when needed but I wasted less ammo.

There are several in the high power range that will give you Bolt Action accuracy with a fast second shot. When needed.
Without blasting away magazines of ammo.
http://www.remington.com/product-families/firearms/centerfire-families/pump-action-model-7600.aspx
http://www.uberti.com/firearms/lightning.php

Just another option to confuse you.

 

[Uriel999]

Ok, I am going to offer some alternatives.
(I'm just like that)
On the semi auto side. Since you are in California any of the "battle" rifles will have been neutered. There are other good rifles available, in hunting models.
http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/family.asp?webflag_=002B&catalog_=B
http://www.remington.com/product-families/firearms/centerfire-families/autoloading-model-750.aspx
But I also would suggest an alternative to these.

When I was young, I had semi auto .22s. Ammo was cheap and I did a lot of plinking. And wasted ammo. I got a pump .22. It gave me a fast followup shot when needed but I wasted less ammo.

There are several in the high power range that will give you Bolt Action accuracy with a fast second shot. When needed.
Without blasting away magazines of ammo.
http://www.remington.com/product-families/firearms/centerfire-families/pump-action-model-7600.aspx
http://www.uberti.com/firearms/lightning.php

Just another option to confuse you.

lol when you can still buy 500 packs of ammo for like 15 bucks "wasting" ammo isn't a huge deal. A nickel will replace the round. .22s rule

 

[crushingstep7]

+1 for NOT buying a shitty firearm.

I bought a Mossberg 500 as my first gun for $325. I knew it was decent, sort of a midrange for quality... and even then, I totally regret not spending the extra $100 on a Remington 870. I would be smacking my head against a table for months if I made that mistake with a rifle.


Considering you're talking about a "shtf" scenario...
I would look into the differences between the .223 and the .308 (mainly) and maybe even the .30-06... I mean, I guess it comes down to how hard you want that round to hit it's target. .308 is slightly more expensive, heavier, and you can't carry as much on ya - but other than that, the only other contrasting element there is the flight trajectory of the round.

The .223 won't penetrate anything like the .308 would, but it has a nasty tumble inside the target (at certain ranges). It also has a pretty flat trajectory out to 500 yards, I believe - whereas the .308 has more of a curve? I don't know the fine technical details, here but that's my understanding lol

Don't take my word as legit or anything.. I'm still trying to graduate from Internet Commando=p

 

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[Acala]

vz58

I'm a fan of the vz58

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vz._58

Looks a bit like an AK but they have nothing in common other than the cartridge. The Vz is, like most Czech firearms, extremely well made. It is lighter than an Ak even though it has a forged receiver. It is more precise than an Ak. More accurate than an Ak. They are made by one of the most freedom-loving countries in Europe. And the prices have been dropping rapidly. I have seen them for under $600.

Probably not legal in Californistan.

 

[Reason]

so many options lol

 

[Uriel999]

so many options lol

Hell and that doesn't include CETME's, G3's, and all sorts of exotic stuff out there.

 

[crushingstep7]

Don't spend $600 on a rifle that you might depend on... that your family might depend on... seriously!

"Just my 2 cents"

 

[osan]

+1 for NOT buying a shitty firearm.

I would look into the differences between the .223 and the .308 (mainly) and maybe even the .30-06... I mean, I guess it comes down to how hard you want that round to hit it's target. .308 is slightly more expensive, heavier, and you can't carry as much on ya - but other than that, the only other contrasting element there is the flight trajectory of the round.

The .223 won't penetrate anything like the .308 would, but it has a nasty tumble inside the target (at certain ranges). It also has a pretty flat trajectory out to 500 yards, I believe - whereas the .308 has more of a curve?

Forget about "flat" shooting. It is irrelevant. The relevant factors are consistency, range, and energy. 308 Win is one of the gold standards of accuracy. It is also good for 1000 yards against personnel. Trust me, you would not want to be hit by one even at that range, or any range for that matter.

The other non-performance related factor to consider is availability. There is a LOT of 308, 223, and 30-06. If things turn truly sour, people with 6.5 SPC rifles will be able to break them out, look at them admiringly, and then put them back. Guns are worth nothing without ammunition. Better to have a .22 with plenty of ammo than a 408 Cheytac with none.

And that is the last thing I will say on this: before buying ANY other rifle, you should get your hands on a .22 lr. Twenty twos have taken more game than any other caliber. You can stock up on 10K rounds for what it would cost you to purchase 100 rounds of .223.

I have an old Stevens Model 34 that I got for $90. I reworked the stock - it now looks similar to a Winslow dangerous game rifle. It is deadly accurate to about 100 yards and hits plenty hard to perhaps 75. It is all that 95+% of all people will likely ever need. IMO it, and a large supply of ammunition should be the first item on that list of rifles. Once in place, then start in on those longer distance items.

Best wishes to one and all.