Reasonable Argument: Think the Campaign Made Some Deals?

[GopBlackList]

I was thinking .. with all the hoopla about ending campaigning and focusing on delegates and the recent breakfast RP had with the Fed chairman ("He now believes in the gold standard"), do you think the Romney campaign and possibly the RNC have extended a hand to RP to make some of his issues (monetary policy, indefinite detention, and internet freedom) and give him a platform to speak provided he wind down the campaign? Honestly I am divided about the recent events, but RP does deserve the respect he deserves for 30 something years of service, and make peace with the party he was odds with for the last few decades. I don't know.. just venting..

 

[nedomedo]

There is obviously some sort of deal going on between the establishment and the Campaign

Ok, so we are finally winning state after state for the first time. All of a sudden Benton sends out that stupid email and Ron Paul allegedly says that we are disrespectful and we should stop "hijacking" conventions or whatever he said. There are two possibilities here. The campaign has either made a deal with the establishment to stop the delegate strategy and/or the campaign is totally out of touch with the grassroots and they are starting to believe all the lies the media says about RP supporters.

This is fucking bullshit, I am tired of clarifying for people every day that Ron Paul is still in the race and other lies the media spits out. Benton knew exactly what he was saying and doing. You must be a complete idiot not to think the media is going to manipulate what was said in that email. All day today zombies have been telling me how they heard RP dropped out and you know what? I am not even going to try and clarify and explain to them anymore, I don't have the energy any more.

Sorry everyone, I am usually the positive one, but it just seems that the campaign (excluding RP probably) is definitely licking the ass of the establishment. It almost seems that they forgot what all of this was about. We were way more serious than they expected. Who gives a fuck about delegate binding rules? We are fighting to stop this empire from pillaging and killing millions of people around the world and destroying our freedoms at home and we need to show respect for some stupid "binding rule" when its not even clear if the rule stands? Who should we respect? The establishment that ignores us and lies about us for years? The RNC that openly hates us? Mitt Romney and the other globalists? Please tell me who else deserves our respect?

The only thing the campaign can do now is go on the offensive. They should promote us "hijacking" the election, and defend us when we are in need.

This is stressful as hell.

 

[GopBlackList]

if they made a deal, it is probably to include some of RP's positions like monetary policy, detention, and internet freedom. I think the RNC is starting to realize that the libertarian strain in the Republican constituency is strong and possibly the way to the future. It is painful to think that there was deal made (even though for the good) but .. i don't know ... i just feel drained.

 

[Jeremy]

I think they just looked at the reality of the election and what they could realistically do from now until Tampa.

 

[No1butPaul]

I don't know.. just venting..

LOL, have you been reading the threads today? This is hardly venting!

Yes, I do think there is some kind of deal that those in the trenches are not privy.

 

[Gray Fullbuster]

He already told us the plan, remember?

 

[smartguy911]

Only time will tell. Mittens is a flip flopper and even Dr. Paul knows that. I just can't imagine Dr. Paul trusting mittens unless he signs a document. I think the goal is to focus on delegates and get them to the convention and hope for the best.

 

[jcarcinogen]

Well said. I hate republicans so much.

 

[GopBlackList]

He already told us the plan, remember?

Yeah the RNC is going to throw us a bone and put Rand Paul on the ticket. With Rand, even though he has some similarities, he is just not the same as Ron Paul. I can't put my finger on it but for me that's not enough.

 

[The Goat]

I'm not being delivered to anyone. I could give a crap less about Rand ruining his reputation and career by being Romney's VP.

He already told us the plan, remember?

 

[Karsten]

People need to get over the VP bullshit. In the constitution, the VP is the 2nd highest vote getting, so probably the President and VP would be rivals with a different philosophy. In modern times, the VP candidate's job is to advocate the Presidential ticket and his platform. You think Rand would be allowed to "go rouge" on Romney on foreign policy on the debate against Biden? You're crazy.

 

[anonymous billionaire]

You guys realize there's not a shot in hell RP is going to win the Presidency yet? This is nothing to hang your hats about. Those that have been in the movement know it's about philosophical change in the debate and we're influencing and changing that.

You also don't want him in office the next 4 years if the market begins to turn south, which with the indicators I'm going by it's very likely. Let Obama take the blame and his socialistic ideas. Not a libertarian who believes in free markets and sound money.

 

[phill4paul]

Why would anyone want to be on a losing ticket?

 

[GopBlackList]

Why would anyone want to be on a losing ticket?

THIS

I am not convinced that Romeny can win.

 

[DrHendricks]

These last couple of days stink to high heaven. I can't believe RP would sell out to the establishment. Not when circumstances are so dire in our country.

 

[CaptUSA]

A deal?? Unlikely.

However, both campaigns have been open about how they speak to eachother. I'm sure there have been overtures going both ways. The campaign has become pragmatic about their chances. They also understand the power we are building. When it comes down to how to effectively use this power, I'm sure Ron Paul wants it used to maximum efficacy while being respectful to the GOP and the Romney campaign.

I would expect that if we are able to control ourselves, there will be many overtures made towards us. Romney's camp will be trying to bring us in. To many, this will look like some pre-fabricated "deal", but it will be pragmatism on the part of the Romney camp.

Remember, we are engaged in a revolution of ideas. However, the first part of this includes fixing the Republican party. I suspect Paul's campaign is working extremely hard on devising plans to do just that.

This convention will be gruesome to watch, but the party will be reborn in the cause of liberty. Once that happens, elections will follow. And they will follow and follow. Eventually, even the Democrats will be arguing about how to cut the size of government and restore liberty. I know this fight is longer than many of you may wish, but we are witnessing the beginning of a new American era.

 

[GopBlackList]

Only time will tell. Mittens is a flip flopper and even Dr. Paul knows that. I just can't imagine Dr. Paul trusting mittens unless he signs a document. I think the goal is to focus on delegates and get them to the convention and hope for the best.

Does the Tampa convention have some kind of formal agreement to stand on those issues?

 

[CUnknown]

I can't believe for a second that Rand would even consider being on the ticket with Romney. That would mean that Rand would be endorsing Romney? Ewww..

That will never happen. And if it does, I would be extremely disappointed in Rand. How can you be a liberty candidate if you endorse a crony capitalist like Romney?

 

[braane]

I actually could see it being the opposite way around.

Back in October or November the Romney camp probably spoke to the Paul camp about Rand being VP(as suspected).... now they are probably saying 'get out, or Rand's future in this party is over'.

I really hope it isn't the case, the worst thing the campaign can do to the movement is sell out.

 

[GopBlackList]

A deal?? Unlikely.

However, both campaigns have been open about how they speak to eachother. I'm sure there have been overtures going both ways. The campaign has become pragmatic about their chances. They also understand the power we are building. When it comes down to how to effectively use this power, I'm sure Ron Paul wants it used to maximum efficacy while being respectful to the GOP and the Romney campaign.

I would expect that if we are able to control ourselves, there will be many overtures made towards us. Romney's camp will be trying to bring us in. To many, this will look like some pre-fabricated "deal", but it will be pragmatism on the part of the Romney camp.

Remember, we are engaged in a revolution of ideas. However, the first part of this includes fixing the Republican party. I suspect Paul's campaign is working extremely hard on devising plans to do just that.

This convention will be gruesome to watch, but the party will be reborn in the cause of liberty. Once that happens, elections will follow. And they will follow and follow. Eventually, even the Democrats will be arguing about how to cut the size of government and restore liberty. I know this fight is longer than many of you may wish, but we are witnessing the beginning of a new American era.

Honestly there times that I think that the MSM media is right about a lot of things