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[JosephTheLibertarian]

These are the same people that brought you George Dubya Bush, was the outcome THAT surprising?

 

[Patrick Henry]

how many votes did ron get? and is the poll closed?

where can I see the results?

44 or 48. The poll is closed I think. The results are not up yet at www.afa.net

 

[SlapItHigh]

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how many votes did ron get? and is the poll closed?

where can I see the results?

I believe they said Ron got 44 votes. That was down from 53 votes at the begining of the night when they first got there. So they said the debate lost him 10 votes. I think they said you could view the results at valuevoter.com or whatever their site is.

 

[quickmike]

Amen to you my friend!

winning isnt about taking all the votes from one particular block of voters......... its about getting a large minority from the whole spectrum. You know, the non-insane people that are in the middle. He gets republicans, democrats, independants..... whereas huckster will only really resonate with just the hard right christians.......... nobody wins the presidency with the support of any extreme.

This is very good for Ron............... very good indeed.

 

[SlapItHigh]

If they rally around Huckabee they are really rallying around Hillary.

 

[quickmike]

anyone have the link to the poll? valuevoter.com is some gay dating service, so thats not it.

 

[reduen]

winning isnt about taking all the votes from one particular block of voters......... its about getting a large minority from the whole spectrum. You know, the non-insane people that are in the middle. He gets republicans, democrats, independants..... whereas huckster will only really resonate with just the hard right christians.......... nobody wins the presidency with the support of any extreme.

This is very good for Ron............... very good indeed.

I don't know if you realize this or not but I agree with you 100%

 

[jblosser]

http://www.valuesvoterdebate.com/

 

[quickmike]

If they rally around Huckabee they are really rallying around Hillary.

Remember, these people dont make up the majority of americans. Not even close.

Sure there are alot of christians, but most of them dont fall into this type.
These are the hardcore islamo-facist fearing ones.


I wouldnt worry too much. The fact that he got 44 votes is really good news if you ask me.

 

[quickmike]

http://www.valuesvoterdebate.com/

I dont see a poll there.

 

[SlapItHigh]

Remember, these people dont make up the majority of americans. Not even close.

In their closing statements they claimed that they made up the highest percentage of the actual voting base in the GOP nomination election.

I wouldnt worry too much. The fact that he got 44 votes is really good news if you ask me.

I don't see how this is not a reason to be concerned. Ron Paul LOST support with these people tonight and they are influencial unfortunately. Either way, if they rally behind Huckabee they are rallying behind Hillary. We need some of these people to get the nomination.

 

[LibertyEagle]

I liked the debate pretty well but I thought Dr. Paul did kinda poorly on this one. His worse performance yet in a debate.

I hope he did better in the first hour that I missed!!! (He seemed too scatter brained one his closing statement.)

You're kidding? His closing statement was very good, IMO.

 

[quickmike]

I don't know if you realize this or not but I agree with you 100%

Yep, were on the same page my friend.

I was just elaborating

 

[transistor]

it was a joke, but it was refreshing not to have to listen to rudy and romney

 

[LibertyEagle]

I believe they said Ron got 44 votes. That was down from 53 votes at the begining of the night when they first got there. So they said the debate lost him 10 votes. I think they said you could view the results at valuevoter.com or whatever their site is.

I didn't hear them say anything about this? Where are you getting this from?

 

[SlapItHigh]

I didn't hear them say anything about this? Where are you getting this from?

In the post debate talk on the live stream.

 

[The Only Woj]

got this via the Facebook Election 08 Addon:

"The straw poll results are in! From pre-selected, fundamentalist delegates who were invited to the event (not the actual crowd):

Huckabee, 219

Paul, 44

Keyes, 24

Who didn't see that coming? This whole debate was set up to suck Mike Huckabee's Protestant dick. The mere fact that Ron Paul got second is somehow a miracle. Also, Alan Keyes is insane and won't get more votes than Duncan Hunter.

The real winners here are the four that didn't show."

 

[LibertyEagle]

1st Huckabee 219 votes
2nd Ron Paul 44 votes

Where are you guys seeing these numbers?

 

[LibertyEagle]

In the post debate talk on the live stream.

You must've been watching a different stream than I was. Mine just dropped afterwards.

 

[quickmike]

Ronnnn Paullll you don't have to turn on your red light....

That red light green light nonsense left no room for reasoning. The debate was horrible. I enjoyed Alan Keyes' energy and eloquence but I wish he was against this war. Although, he has started to say liberty like a klingon.

The nonsense with the empty podiums was really dumb and got old quickly.

Watching the post debate and it is all about Ron Paul.... some guy is saying, "The milk is spilled, it is insane to think they will not follow us home." nonsense.

Yeah, so lets go spill a shitload more milk.

No common sense in people like this.