Rasmussen Poll 09/27

[bobbyw24]

My guess would be yes. I've expected a pro-Ron Paul attitude here, obviously. I mean, I AM pro-Ron Paul. But it seems like the majority here wants to be bombarded with positive attention rather than truth and they disregard or spin all the negative attention he gets. Never mind that pretty much every candidate has been going up and down the polls lately.

It's important to keep in mind exactly HOW MUCH WORK it will take to have Ron Paul win the primaries. The presidential election will be a piece of cake compared to what we're up against now. We all need to collectively stop telling ourselves that things are great and we're on the rise. We're not. Most changes so far have been incremental and seem to mostly be spurred by Ron Paul's debate performance and times where the media has treated him so badly that even the casual viewer noticed it.

Wishful thinking and looking for good news where there isn't any isn't going to win us the election. Honesty about our shortcomings and working on them will. We are backing a frontrunner, a distant frontrunner but a frontrunner nonetheless. But that's not enough, we need to be backing a winner and for as long as we aren't in the top 2 within fighting distance, we're losing.

I understand that and we have a lot of people who haven't lived in the Realpolitik world very long

 

[outspoken]

I believe everything has to be taken with a grain of salt. The system we have in place, alike to us as human beings, is designed above all else for self-preservation. Just keep the nose to the grind educating people and providing solutions!

 

[Article V]

Tuesday, September 27, 2011

A month ago, they were neck-and-neck. Now President Obama has a 10-point lead over Texas Congressman Ron Paul in a hypothetical Election 2012 matchup.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of Likely U.S. Voters finds that Obama earns 44% support to Paul’s 34%. Thirteen percent (13%) prefer some other candidate, and nine percent (9%) remain undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...sidential_election/2012_presidential_matchups

Now, I don't want to encourage all the conspiracy theorists, but...

I'm beginning to be convinced that the polls are being purposefully manipulated because the powers that be understand Duverger's Law which confirms the theory that, in order to make the most of their only vote, voters will largely make their choices based on how they perceive other voters will vote. Thus, if you can control how people think other voters will vote, then you are more likely to get the outcome you desire by disinclining individuals away from their sincere first choices.

 

[PastaRocket848]

wow... congrats. what's next.. gonna tell me water is wet? lol

 

[Article V]

wow... congrats. what's next.. gonna tell me water is wet? lol

water is wet lol

 

[HeyArchie]

I hate politics as usual.

 

[Rudeman]

IMO the main difference between this poll and the Harris poll is that the Harris Poll only gives 2 options, Obama or Ron Paul. While this poll you are given 4 possible choices, Obama, Ron Paul, someone else, or undecided.

It looks like a lot of Republicans are hoping for someone like Trump to run as an independent.

 

[The Free Hornet]

It looks like a lot of Republicans are hoping for someone like Trump to run as an independent.

Trump was on Greta talking up that possibility. In particular, if neither Romney nor Perry were the nominee (he likes them both). Trump is meeting with Cain on Monday so maybe he will like Cain as well. I would expect Trump to make a run only if Ron Paul were the nominee. However, I do expect the vast majority of the Republicans (90-95%) to get behind Ron Paul however begrudgingly. If a right-leaning-centrist independent won the Presidency, that would be more damaging to their twisted image of the Republican party than anything else. It would be a de facto abandonment of Lincoln's party. They might as well roll out a welcome mat for the libertarians. The same could happen if Obama wins due to a right-leaning candidate spliting the vote.

 

[Keith and stuff]

Its a perception issue. Ron is getting the image that he is weak. He needs a couple really strong defining moments taking on the other as well as (and maybe more importantly) calling obama out.

I think it may be a communications issue. I cannot even understand what Ron Paul is talking about much of the time. Take his recent Daily Show interview. I struggled to try to understand him much of the time. Obama on the other hand is able to speak to the people in a way that people understand. He even uses slang when he feels he is in the right crowd to use it.

Paul should figure out 3-5 issues that his campaign is about and try to push them in most of his interviews. He is still all over the place.

 

[blakjak]

IMO the main difference between this poll and the Harris poll is that the Harris Poll only gives 2 options, Obama or Ron Paul. While this poll you are given 4 possible choices, Obama, Ron Paul, someone else, or undecided.

Yup, this is exactly why you see a discrepancy between the two polls.

 

[Johncjackson]

Seems to be an issues with the undecideds and the "other." Some of these polls add up to 100% ( 51/49) . So apparently those are being "forced" to choose one or the other. When the poll is 44-34 with 22% "other" I guess we don't know how those 22% would fall if they have to choose one or the other. In reality, the 13% "supporting someone else" is going to shrink to 1-2% on election day because they are supporting someone who will not be on the ballot or will receive a fraction of 1%. I would think the majority of those 13% supporting someone else are supporting a conservative candidate because there isn't going to be an alternative to Obama on the left. So I think a lot of that is going to be anti-Obama vote the GOP nom will pickup.

 

[civusamericanus]

Perry is a "Train Wreck" and likely lost half of his support in the last debate. They deliberately ignored Ron Paul in the last debate, since he was beginning to become a real threat by OFFICIALLY CLOSING IN ON 3rd PLACE! Now that Perry, is going to drop like a brick in the polls, the establishment is frantically worried about Ron Paul taking 2nd place. Once Paul takes 2nd place, thousands of people are going to have mud on their face, because he will become legitimately electable.

THEY MUST STOP PAUL NOW! Or Paul could actually be nominated...

The next debate will be a real moment of truth for Ron Paul, and his supporters need to keep up the fight for him!

Talk to everyone you know, know where Ron Paul stands on the issues, here's a good link http://www.ontheissues.org/ron_paul.htm Read Ron Paul's books, and get motivated!

Ron Paul said the most important thing you can do besides donating money to the campaign is particpating in Ron Paul's Phone From Home Program! Join and do it now! Link Below!

http://phone.ronpaul2012.com/v/login.php?v=1

 

[R3volutionJedi]

polls...pshhh....samples of only 1,000-500 people