Rasmussen Poll 09/27

[bobbyw24]

Tuesday, September 27, 2011

A month ago, they were neck-and-neck. Now President Obama has a 10-point lead over Texas Congressman Ron Paul in a hypothetical Election 2012 matchup.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of Likely U.S. Voters finds that Obama earns 44% support to Paul’s 34%. Thirteen percent (13%) prefer some other candidate, and nine percent (9%) remain undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...sidential_election/2012_presidential_matchups

 

[bluesc]

 

[TheTyke]

A Harris poll just came out with Paul beating Obama... and they've been "neck-and-neck" in multiple polls for the past year. Why would this one be so out of step?

 

[JamesButabi]

Ughhhh not what I wanted to see. Are they polling him individually again, or was this part of a larger Republican polling?

 

[D.A.S.]

I never cease to be amazed by how much Paul's support continues to DANCE AROUND in all the polls lately! What's up??

 

[IndianaPolitico]

Nuts, not too good. But let's focus on the positive, the recent Harris poll shows him BEATING Obama, and there is an End of the Quarter Push going on right now! Be sure to share the donate page, (Which has been reoptimized for social media sharing.) and let's give the campaign a BIG fundraising sucess!
https://secure.ronpaul2012.com/

 

[bobbyw24]

Harris Poll: Ron Paul 51-Obama 49

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?318734-Harris-Poll-Ron-Paul-51-Obama-49

 

[JamesButabi]

Ninety-four percent (94%) of the Political Class favor Obama, while a plurality (46%) of Mainstream voters likes Paul instead.

More than 80% of likely Republican Primary voters say it is likely Perry or Romney will beat the president in the general election. But just 38% think it’s at least somewhat likely that Paul can beat Obama next November, with 16% who feel it’s Very Likely.

Its a perception issue. Ron is getting the image that he is weak. He needs a couple really strong defining moments taking on the other as well as (and maybe more importantly) calling obama out.

 

[Merk]

Unfortunately, as we all know, polls are easily controlled via outright rigging and deception or via polling a specific demographic that one knows the likely results.

I think our weakest voting demographic for Ron is older boomers and seniors. The reason is they mainly get their news from the MSM and what is worse actually trust the MSM to be something other than a propaganda mouthpiece for the cartels.

Outreach to these folks is paramount. Medicare/caid is huge with them. If they can be presented with Ron's ideas on these issues they would be easily swayed with his truth I believe.

 

[The Free Hornet]

I never cease to be amazed by how much Paul's support continues to DANCE AROUND in all the polls lately! What's up??

Ever play blackjack at the casino? The money on my side dances around and the key is to walk away when up. I wonder if someone is walking away when Ron's numbers look bad? Who determines how many people are called? Imagine Ron is 10%, if he is polling well under 10% but enough calls have been made, then stop, if he is polling above 10% then keep calling more people until he is pulled down. Using this method, you can ensure - to an extent - that 10% +/- 5% is always 10% +0%/-5%. Just saying... one more tool these pollsters have that will never be disclosed.

 

[Merk]

Its a perception issue. Ron is getting the image that he is weak. He needs a couple really strong defining moments taking on the other as well as (and maybe more importantly) calling obama out.

He needs to stand up for himself in a big way at the next debate. If he doesn't, first Bloomberg and then CNN are going to mop the floor with him and basically exclude him while he is standing on the stage.

 

[sailingaway]

Odd, the Harris poll came out with him second best to Romney against Obama, again. Yet this will be the one quoted I'm sure. And again Rasmussen waited to sample Ron against Obama until a different timeframe from when they polled the others. Seems to me it would be cheaper to do them all at once, so I wonder what that is about?

 

[InTradePro]

I never cease to be amazed by how much Paul's support continues to DANCE AROUND in all the polls lately! What's up??

Nothing, just poll fluctuation and some spin. Ron's support is consistant and steadily growing.

 

[bobbyw24]

Odd, the Harris poll came out with him second best to Romney against Obama, again. Yet this will be the one quoted I'm sure. And again Rasmussen waited to sample Ron against Obama until a different timeframe from when they polled the others. Seems to me it would be cheaper to do them all at once, so I wonder what that is about?

Why change the thread title--are people here too hypersensitive to handle it?

 

[hubze]

I think people are forgetting that these are generally REPUBLICAN voters. They do not take into consideration the democrat converts like myself and almost ALL of my friends as well as the apathetic voter. They are calling land lines and generally these are the people who are sitting at home and have to mute FOX news in order to take the poll...so why can we not just agree that the polls are just as biased as the media and keep on going like they do not exist?

If you look historically NONE of the winners in the past elections polled well...showing over and over that it really does not matter...Ron is gaining a TON of momentum too with NEW voters...college kids etc and so just remember when you see those %'s based on what I see...those numbers are most likely DOUBLE what polls will show...

So come on...stop putting your negativity into the campaign and go out there are spread the message!! =]

 

[bobbyw24]

Shouldn't we change this title from Harris Poll Ron Paul 51-Obama 49 to Harris Poll 09/27 to be consistent?


http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?318734-Harris-Poll-Ron-Paul-51-Obama-49

 

[InTradePro]

Odd, the Harris poll came out with him second best to Romney against Obama, again. Yet this will be the one quoted I'm sure. And again Rasmussen waited to sample Ron against Obama until a different timeframe from when they polled the others. Seems to me it would be cheaper to do them all at once, so I wonder what that is about?

It's really about not letting him get the media attention. Don't worry it's counter productive to them in the long run.

 

[Esoteric]

Good thread title edit, sailing. Always on top of your game.

 

[libertybrewcity]

Given the constant fluctuations in polls that come out around similar time I think the only semi-accurate results will be the averages of multiple polls.

 

[LawnWake]

Why change the thread title--are people here too hypersensitive to handle it?

My guess would be yes. I've expected a pro-Ron Paul attitude here, obviously. I mean, I AM pro-Ron Paul. But it seems like the majority here wants to be bombarded with positive attention rather than truth and they disregard or spin all the negative attention he gets. Never mind that pretty much every candidate has been going up and down the polls lately.

It's important to keep in mind exactly HOW MUCH WORK it will take to have Ron Paul win the primaries. The presidential election will be a piece of cake compared to what we're up against now. We all need to collectively stop telling ourselves that things are great and we're on the rise. We're not. Most changes so far have been incremental and seem to mostly be spurred by Ron Paul's debate performance and times where the media has treated him so badly that even the casual viewer noticed it.

Wishful thinking and looking for good news where there isn't any isn't going to win us the election. Honesty about our shortcomings and working on them will. We are backing a frontrunner, a distant frontrunner but a frontrunner nonetheless. But that's not enough, we need to be backing a winner and for as long as we aren't in the top 2 within fighting distance, we're losing.