Rasmussen Iowa poll [UPDATE: Released, Confirmed]

[LeJimster]

Sorry if somebody has already commented on this.. But this poll is actually good even though we are in 2nd place. The last Poll had Romney ahead 25 to Ron's 20. This one shows an improvement of +2 for Paul and -2 for Romney. Another reason why I think it's positive, is Rasmussen poll more heavily on GOP voters and aren't taking into the account the level of extra support Ron is going to bring to the fight.

 

[parocks]

Santorum started coming up in comment sections only a few days ago, several days after the initial propaganda articles began -- my favorite article containing a line along the lines of "Some whisper that Santorum may surprise in Iowa" (who are 'some', why are they whispering, and who are they whispering to?).

Fabricated support is meaningless.

Santorum not only can't win a national election, on the off chance he did he'd divide the nation more than any President ever has. There is a reason you can 'google Santorum', and that is because he is long despised by a sizeable portion of the country.

Santorum is a solid social conservative and Iowa has a lot of evangelicals. There's nothing really bad on his resume and it isn't particularly weak. He got the Vander Platts endorse. And Gingrich is falling. Gingrich has lost 20 points in the last month. Santorum picked up many of those votes. So did Romney and Paul. This doesn't really seem like much of a conspiracy at all.

 

[TheDrakeMan]

This Santorum surge seems fishy...

looks like Bachmann is sinking, I guess all of her votes are going to him.

 

[Pete Kay]

Re: Santorum
I do not believe he is a long term threat.

As PPP recently tweeted:
Rick Santorum and Rick Perry are tied with Buddy Roemer at 3% in New Hampshire #seriously

Buddy Roemer? I've seen his name at the bottom of some other polls, but just figured he was some unknown. I just now looked him up and found out he was a 4 term Congressman and Governor of Louisiana. So how come he was never invited to the debates?

Anyway, I'm glad to see Ron Paul at the top of a Rasmussen poll.

 

[blazeKing]

Santorum lost re-election in PA by 18% points which is pretty incredible for an incumbent so PA knows something we don't.

 

[Carole]

This Santorum surge seems fishy...

I agree it is fishy, but it has the capacity this close to caucus day to do real damage, phony or not thought "surge" may be. Sanitarium could suddenly take over this late and surprise both Romney and Paul.

 

[parocks]

Buddy Roemer? I've seen his name at the bottom of some other polls, but just figured he was some unknown. I just now looked him up and found out he was a 4 term Congressman and Governor of Louisiana. So how come he was never invited to the debates?

Anyway, I'm glad to see Ron Paul at the top of a Rasmussen poll.

I have no idea. Harvard College, Harvard MBA. Founded a Bank. But his house was never classified as a treatment facility as Bachmann's was, and he never got babysitting money from the government.

 

[InTradePro]

This Santorum surge seems fishy...

True, but it's accurate because Fox are pumping 'the surge', which is self-fulfilling. The reason:they realise Newt has no chance of beating Dr Paul.

 

[sofia]

we r being set up for vote fraud...

Ron's votes will be switched to "the surging" Frothy Santorum....and Romney will win....Ron 2nd...and Frothy a close 3rd and the new "conservative" alternative to Mitt and Ron.....

Frothy will be "the big story out of Iowa"

Its already been confirmed that vote count will be moved to "an undisclosed location" due to the threats from "Anonymous" (Feds)

 

[UtahApocalypse]

we r being set up for vote fraud...

Ron's votes will be switched to "the surging" Frothy Santorum....and Romney will win....Ron 2nd...and Frothy a close 3rd and the new "conservative" alternative to Mitt and Ron.....

Frothy will be "the big story out of Iowa"

Its already been confirmed that vote count will be moved to "an undisclosed location" due to the threats from "Anonymous" (Feds)

Anyone claiming vote fraud in Iowa has NO clue how the caucus works. Quit making us look like fools.

 

[Brett85]

This is really, really good for a Rasmussen poll. I think Ron would win by about 8 points if the election were held today.

 

[anewvoice]

Everyone needs to relax and look at polls individually, with movement judged only in comparison to themselves. CNN poll was not comparable to PPP, but both showed Ron Paul growth, steady. This poll is also different but it shows the same steady growth. We know 30% of the electorate simply moves to whatever is on the news, but we continue slow and steady.

Stay the course...

 

[blazeKing]

we r being set up for vote fraud...

Ron's votes will be switched to "the surging" Frothy Santorum....and Romney will win....Ron 2nd...and Frothy a close 3rd and the new "conservative" alternative to Mitt and Ron.....

Frothy will be "the big story out of Iowa"

Its already been confirmed that vote count will be moved to "an undisclosed location" due to the threats from "Anonymous" (Feds)

So true. I hate sounding like a conspiracy guy but I totally believe anonymous is the "cyber al qaeda" that the feds use to stifle democracy and scare people into giving up liberty. They seem to show up like the anthrax letters before important internet legislation too.

 

[Brett85]

I´m weary of santorum. If this is real. It´s not good news.

Why? His surge might be enough to get him into 3rd, but he won't get any higher than that.

 

[lakerssuck92]

A frothy surge wouldn't be bad for us. Santorum has little money, little support, and no organization outside of Iowa. He isn't a threat...

 

[parocks]

I agree it is fishy, but it has the capacity this close to caucus day to do real damage, phony or not thought "surge" may be. Sanitarium could suddenly take over this late and surprise both Romney and Paul.

If Santorum did that, would would happen? Would Paul lose supporters to Santorum? Would hardcore social conservative suddenly become extremely popular in New Hampshire? We still beat Santorum in NH. But Gingrich is at best 4th in both under those scenarios. South Carolina, where Gingrich is still looking good, is going to start looking closely at Santorum under those conditions. If Santorum finishes above Gingrich in both states, people will move from Gingrich to Santorum. I don't know how many, but Gingrich is still atop the polls in South Carolina. Now, if I see a South Carolina poll with Gingrich at 13%, I'd rethink all that. If Romney is ahead in South Carolina by 15%, I'd rethink all that. Santorum can't win. He just isn't famous enough, isn't rich enough, doesn't have the method to raise the money. There just aren't that many big money people who are going to support Santorum over Romney. Or Bachmann over Romney. But Gingrich or Perry, I can imagine that. Santorum will just run out of money.

 

[Carole]

Rasmussen Iowa

Romney: 23%
Paul: 22%
Santorum: 16%
Gingrich: 13%
Perry: 13%
Bachmann: 5%
Huntsman: 3%

This is a concerted effort to do exactly what the MSM has been hinting at for days. They are "bunching" them up.

When this happens, there will be no way to determine any shananigans as having taken place, because it "was simply too close to call" and we will possibly get this:

Romney 26
Santorum 22
Paul 20
Gingrich 13
Perry 11
Bachmann 7
Other 1

Suddenly Romney is getting "crowds" to listen to him. Like the manufactured crowds with out of state license tags where he was billed by the town for blocking traffic in New Hampshire the other day. Now he is getting these "crowds" in Iowa suddenly.

Romney visit clogs streets, police hand him the bill
http://www.seacoastonline.com/articles/20111227-NEWS-111229793

Note all the out of state license plates. Astroturf crowds, just like Oblahma.

They are going to try to put Romney on top in Iowa.

 

[chudrockz]

After literally months of reading "Frothy" meaning, apparently, Rick Santorum, I finally did a little research.

Super amusing, but more than a tad gross!

 

[Brett85]

It's awesome that Bachmann has fallen so far. Apparently her attacks against Ron haven't helped her at all.

 

[Brett85]

Rasmussen Iowa

Romney: 23%
Paul: 22%
Santorum: 16%
Gingrich: 13%
Perry: 13%
Bachmann: 5%
Huntsman: 3%

This is a concerted effort to do exactly what the MSM has been hinting at for days. They are "bunching" them up.

When this happens, there will be no way to determine any shananigans as having taken place, because it "was simply too close to call" and we will possibly get this:

Romney 26
Santorum 22
Paul 20
Gingrich 13
Perry 11
Bachmann 7
Other 1

I'm glad that I don't believe in conspiracy theories.