Rand vs Trump Poll. Who do these forums support?

Who do you support for President.

  • Rand Paul

    Votes: 109 94.8%

  • Donald Trump

    Votes: 6 5.2%
  • Total voters
    115
GunnyFreedom said:
If you don't like me tearing down your arguments,
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You blatantly contradicted yourself and I pointed it out. Get over it.

GunnyFreedom said:
then stop promoting Donald Trump on RON PAUL FORUMS. If you were promoting Donald Trump on Donald Trump Forums I can promise you that I would not be decimating your arguments. If you were promoting Rand Paul on Rand Paul Forums I can promise you that I would not be decimating your arguments.
But you come on to Ron Paul Forums to promote Donald Trump and you think we should just leave you alone to spam your crap in peace?

PFFFT! get real!
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Prove it. Show me where I am promoting Trump? I do have posts where I believe his H1-b policy is superior to Rands. That does not mean I am promoting Trump. You need to get over it.

GunnyFreedom said:
If you can't handle having your arguments utterly destroyed, then don't go on Ron Paul Forums to promote Donald Trump.
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There is nothing to handle since no one has questioned or debated anything I have said about Trump. This is all in your head.

GunnyFreedom said:
Of course you would say that. She's defending the trumpspam, and you are a trumpspammer. It doesn't make any of it true. You are both acting just like Donald Trump. This is one of the reasons why I say Donald Trump is an infectious disease that attacks the rational centers of the brain. The people doing this crap act just like him. Like they turned into little Trump clones frothing off at the mouth.

The only reason there is any arguing about this subject AT ALL on these forums, are the people spamming hundreds of Trump treads all over RON PAUL FORUMS. If not for YOU and the four others like you bloviating endlessly about Donald Trump on RON PAUL FORUMS there would not be this pushback. THAT is entirely on YOU.
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You are delusional.
 
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Anti Federalist said:
Go home, you're drunk.

Voting Trump is a losing proposition, regardless.
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So you agree then people should not be allowed to post here if they will be voting for Trump if Rand loses the nomination? That is basically the forum member purity test that is being demanded by a few here.

As for me the way I feel tonight is I do not know what I am going to do at this point. This is due to me trying to decide whether Rand's H-1B policy is a deal killer. Sometimes I can get past it sometimes I can't. I prefer Trump's H1-B policy but I have not endorsed Trump. But now I am labeled a Trump supporter and should be banned from the forum.
 
So you agree then people should not be allowed to post here if they will be voting for Trump if Rand loses the nomination? That is basically the forum member purity test that is being demanded by a few here.
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No, no, we don't want you to be banned. We want to be able to rake your asses over the coals when all this plays out.
 
kahless said:
So you agree then people should not be allowed to post here if they will be voting for Trump if Rand loses the nomination? That is basically the forum member purity test that is being demanded by a few here.

As for me the way I feel tonight is I do not know what I am going to do at this point. This is due to me trying to decide whether Rand's H-1B policy is a deal killer. Sometimes I can get past it sometimes I can't. I prefer Trump's H1-B policy but I have not endorsed Trump. But now I am labeled a Trump supporter and should be banned from the forum.
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No, where did I say that?

In fact, if you looked at my vote in this thread, I voted exactly the opposite, as I am not in favor of "banning" people.

But you're all here arguing Trump's policy, and that Trump will do such and such and so and so.

And I'm trying to tell you I have been watching this man play his game for damn near thirty five years.

He's trolling you, epically.
 
Anti Federalist said:
No, where did I say that?

In fact, if you looked at my vote in this thread, I voted exactly the opposite, as I am not in favor of "banning" people.

But you're all here arguing Trump's policy, and that Trump will do such and such and so and so.

And I'm trying to tell you I have been watching this man play his game for damn near thirty five years.

He's trolling you, epically.
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The ones talking about Trump the most are those in RPF's own self-appointed lynch mob.

I have seen very few here that have said they are not planning on voting for Rand.
 
Anti Federalist said:
No, where did I say that?
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That is what I thought you meant by telling LE she is drunk.


Anti Federalist said:
In fact, if you looked at my vote in this thread, I voted exactly the opposite, as I am not in favor of "banning" people.

But you're all here arguing Trump's policy, and that Trump will do such and such and so and so.

And I'm trying to tell you I have been watching this man play his game for damn near thirty five years.

He's trolling you, epically.
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I am aware that is certainly a possibility. I have not decided what I will do.
 
Origanalist said:
No, no, we don't want you to be banned. We want to be able to rake your asses over the coals when all this plays out.
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If I end up voting for Trump if Rand loses and it is an honest discussion then let me have it. Considering the behavior in this thread it does not look like that would be so.
 
kahless said:
You blatantly contradicted yourself and I pointed it out. Get over it.
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No, I didn't. You are a liar. I said from the start that endorsements are completely irrelevant except for political gamesmanship. Your entire attack is based on the bizarre notion that "political gamesmanship" is a contradiction to "political capital." You are so desperate to find a flaw in my rationale that you are just making crap up.

Prove it. Show me where I am promoting Trump? I do have posts where I believe his H1-b policy is superior to Rands. That does not mean I am promoting Trump. You need to get over it.
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Promoting Trump:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...do-these-forums-support&p=5965382#post5965382
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...do-these-forums-support&p=5965160#post5965160
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...-to-3rd-party-for-Trump&p=5963284#post5963284
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ons-On-Immigration-Plan&p=5963066#post5963066
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...eport-American-citizens&p=5962159#post5962159
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...data-collection-(video)&p=5961484#post5961484
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...data-collection-(video)&p=5961418#post5961418
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...data-collection-(video)&p=5961252#post5961252
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ad-evaar!-(The-trilogy)&p=5960365#post5960365
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ad-evaar!-(The-trilogy)&p=5960364#post5960364
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...advice-from-John-Bolton&p=5960155#post5960155
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ons-On-Immigration-Plan&p=5960134#post5960134
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ons-On-Immigration-Plan&p=5959606#post5959606
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ons-On-Immigration-Plan&p=5959325#post5959325
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ons-On-Immigration-Plan&p=5959291#post5959291
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ons-On-Immigration-Plan&p=5958976#post5958976
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ONLY-one-in-the-race-wh&p=5958285#post5958285

Disrespecting Rand Paul:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...do-these-forums-support&p=5965254#post5965254
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...do-these-forums-support&p=5965160#post5965160
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ons-On-Immigration-Plan&p=5963135#post5963135
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...data-collection-(video)&p=5961445#post5961445
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...data-collection-(video)&p=5961418#post5961418
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...data-collection-(video)&p=5961252#post5961252
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ad-evaar!-(The-trilogy)&p=5960361#post5960361
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?480460-The-day-the-music-died&p=5960178#post5960178
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?480460-The-day-the-music-died&p=5960164#post5960164
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...advice-from-John-Bolton&p=5960155#post5960155
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ons-On-Immigration-Plan&p=5960134#post5960134
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...Encouraging-Legal-Immig&p=5959485#post5959485
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ons-On-Immigration-Plan&p=5959325#post5959325
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ons-On-Immigration-Plan&p=5958976#post5958976
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ONLY-one-in-the-race-wh&p=5958285#post5958285

Apologizing for Trump wanting a National ID Card
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...Encouraging-Legal-Immig&p=5959469#post5959469

I could go on for days....

There is nothing to handle since no one has questioned or debated anything I have said about Trump. This is all in your head.



You are delusional.
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You would like to think so. Or you are just deflecting.
 
kahless said:
If I end up voting for Trump if Rand loses and it is an honest discussion then let me have it. Considering the behavior in this thread it does not look like that would be so.
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Oh I will believe me. If this joker actually becomes president after the first year I doubt you will show your face.
 
GunnyFreedom said:
No, I didn't. You are a liar. I said from the start that endorsements are completely irrelevant except for political gamesmanship. Your entire attack is based on the bizarre notion that "political gamesmanship" is a contradiction to "political capital." You are so desperate to find a flaw in my rationale that you are just making crap up.



Promoting Trump:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...do-these-forums-support&p=5965382#post5965382
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...do-these-forums-support&p=5965160#post5965160
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...-to-3rd-party-for-Trump&p=5963284#post5963284
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ons-On-Immigration-Plan&p=5963066#post5963066
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...eport-American-citizens&p=5962159#post5962159
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...data-collection-(video)&p=5961484#post5961484
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...data-collection-(video)&p=5961418#post5961418
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...data-collection-(video)&p=5961252#post5961252
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ad-evaar!-(The-trilogy)&p=5960365#post5960365
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ad-evaar!-(The-trilogy)&p=5960364#post5960364
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...advice-from-John-Bolton&p=5960155#post5960155
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ons-On-Immigration-Plan&p=5960134#post5960134
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ons-On-Immigration-Plan&p=5959606#post5959606
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ons-On-Immigration-Plan&p=5959325#post5959325
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ons-On-Immigration-Plan&p=5959291#post5959291
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ons-On-Immigration-Plan&p=5958976#post5958976
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ONLY-one-in-the-race-wh&p=5958285#post5958285

Disrespecting Rand Paul:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...do-these-forums-support&p=5965254#post5965254
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...do-these-forums-support&p=5965160#post5965160
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ons-On-Immigration-Plan&p=5963135#post5963135
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...data-collection-(video)&p=5961445#post5961445
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...data-collection-(video)&p=5961418#post5961418
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...data-collection-(video)&p=5961252#post5961252
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ad-evaar!-(The-trilogy)&p=5960361#post5960361
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?480460-The-day-the-music-died&p=5960178#post5960178
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?480460-The-day-the-music-died&p=5960164#post5960164
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...advice-from-John-Bolton&p=5960155#post5960155
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ons-On-Immigration-Plan&p=5960134#post5960134
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...Encouraging-Legal-Immig&p=5959485#post5959485
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ons-On-Immigration-Plan&p=5959325#post5959325
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ons-On-Immigration-Plan&p=5958976#post5958976
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ONLY-one-in-the-race-wh&p=5958285#post5958285

Apologizing for Trump wanting a National ID Card
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...Encouraging-Legal-Immig&p=5959469#post5959469

I could go on for days....



You would like to think so. Or you are just deflecting.
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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to GunnyFreedom again.
 
It's rather funny that a few of you have your panties in a twist because you cannot dictate everyone's choices if Rand drops out, or isn't nominated. Meanwhile, 'ol Lew Rockwell has been sending out copious facebook posts denigrating and just mocking Rand. And some of his "libertarian" followers just love it. And let's not forget the "libertarian" antiwar.com whose flip seems to have flopped against Rand at the present. Oh, and last, but not least, the ever so popular (on this forum), Adam Kokesh, who has been proclaiming to his listeners NOT to support Rand Paul.

Yet, here you are, trying to drive away people who plan to vote for Rand in the primary. :rolleyes:

Your sights need to be recalibrated.
 
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LibertyEagle said:
It's rather funny that a few of you have your panties in a twist because you cannot dictate everyone's choices if Rand drops out, or isn't nominated. Meanwhile, 'ol Lew Rockwell has been sending out copious facebook posts denigrating and just mocking Rand. And some of his "libertarian" followers just love it. And let's not forget the "libertarian" antiwar.com whose flip seems to have flopped against Rand at the present. Oh, and last, but not least, the ever so popular (on this forum), Adam Kokesh, who has been proclaiming to his listeners NOT to support Rand Paul.

Yet, here you are, trying to drive away people who plan to vote for Rand in the primary. :rolleyes:
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I'm not running after you LE. But I bet I could catch you if I did.
 
GunnyFreedom said:
No, I didn't. You are a liar. I said from the start that endorsements are completely irrelevant except for political gamesmanship. Your entire attack is based on the bizarre notion that "political gamesmanship" is a contradiction to "political capital." You are so desperate to find a flaw in my rationale that you are just making crap up.
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We disagree, you could have just said that instead of losing your shit over it. You started off with an attitude as it was already due to your belief I am a Trump supporter.

GunnyFreedom said:
Promoting Trump:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...do-these-forums-support&p=5965382#post5965382
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...do-these-forums-support&p=5965160#post5965160
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...-to-3rd-party-for-Trump&p=5963284#post5963284
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ons-On-Immigration-Plan&p=5963066#post5963066
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...eport-American-citizens&p=5962159#post5962159
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...data-collection-(video)&p=5961484#post5961484
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...data-collection-(video)&p=5961418#post5961418
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...data-collection-(video)&p=5961252#post5961252
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ad-evaar!-(The-trilogy)&p=5960365#post5960365
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ad-evaar!-(The-trilogy)&p=5960364#post5960364
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...advice-from-John-Bolton&p=5960155#post5960155
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ons-On-Immigration-Plan&p=5960134#post5960134
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ons-On-Immigration-Plan&p=5959606#post5959606
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ons-On-Immigration-Plan&p=5959325#post5959325
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ons-On-Immigration-Plan&p=5959291#post5959291
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ons-On-Immigration-Plan&p=5958976#post5958976
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ONLY-one-in-the-race-wh&p=5958285#post5958285

Disrespecting Rand Paul:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...do-these-forums-support&p=5965254#post5965254
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...do-these-forums-support&p=5965160#post5965160
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ons-On-Immigration-Plan&p=5963135#post5963135
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...data-collection-(video)&p=5961445#post5961445
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...data-collection-(video)&p=5961418#post5961418
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...data-collection-(video)&p=5961252#post5961252
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ad-evaar!-(The-trilogy)&p=5960361#post5960361
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?480460-The-day-the-music-died&p=5960178#post5960178
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?480460-The-day-the-music-died&p=5960164#post5960164
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...advice-from-John-Bolton&p=5960155#post5960155
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ons-On-Immigration-Plan&p=5960134#post5960134
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...Encouraging-Legal-Immig&p=5959485#post5959485
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ons-On-Immigration-Plan&p=5959325#post5959325
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ons-On-Immigration-Plan&p=5958976#post5958976
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ONLY-one-in-the-race-wh&p=5958285#post5958285
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^LOL. All you did is just copy a bunch of my posts. Many of them from this thread and repeats of the same link. These are opinions and not promotion of Trump. Some do not even have anything to do with Trump.

GunnyFreedom said:
Apologizing for Trump wanting a National ID Card
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...Encouraging-Legal-Immig&p=5959469#post5959469
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^Here I am pointing out that the ontheissues.org website has misrepresented Rand's view that he is for a National ID card. Someone from Rand's campaign needs to contact that site to have it fixed.
 
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Origanalist said:
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to GunnyFreedom again.
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But no rep for me in that post where I call out a website for misrepresenting Rand's platform. I bet if your posts were relabeled under my account Gunny would be posting yours also. I have seen you write some honest assessments of Rand's campaign and opinions on Trump's polices (not that you believe them).
 
GunnyFreedom said:
No, I didn't. You are a liar. I said from the start that endorsements are completely irrelevant except for political gamesmanship. Your entire attack is based on the bizarre notion that "political gamesmanship" is a contradiction to "political capital." You are so desperate to find a flaw in my rationale that you are just making crap up.



Promoting Trump:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...do-these-forums-support&p=5965382#post5965382
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...do-these-forums-support&p=5965160#post5965160
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...-to-3rd-party-for-Trump&p=5963284#post5963284
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ons-On-Immigration-Plan&p=5963066#post5963066
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...eport-American-citizens&p=5962159#post5962159
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...data-collection-(video)&p=5961484#post5961484
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...data-collection-(video)&p=5961418#post5961418
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...data-collection-(video)&p=5961252#post5961252
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ad-evaar!-(The-trilogy)&p=5960365#post5960365
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ad-evaar!-(The-trilogy)&p=5960364#post5960364
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...advice-from-John-Bolton&p=5960155#post5960155
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ons-On-Immigration-Plan&p=5960134#post5960134
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ons-On-Immigration-Plan&p=5959606#post5959606
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ons-On-Immigration-Plan&p=5959325#post5959325
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ons-On-Immigration-Plan&p=5959291#post5959291
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ons-On-Immigration-Plan&p=5958976#post5958976
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ONLY-one-in-the-race-wh&p=5958285#post5958285

Disrespecting Rand Paul:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...do-these-forums-support&p=5965254#post5965254
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...do-these-forums-support&p=5965160#post5965160
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ons-On-Immigration-Plan&p=5963135#post5963135
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...data-collection-(video)&p=5961445#post5961445
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...data-collection-(video)&p=5961418#post5961418
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...data-collection-(video)&p=5961252#post5961252
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ad-evaar!-(The-trilogy)&p=5960361#post5960361
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?480460-The-day-the-music-died&p=5960178#post5960178
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?480460-The-day-the-music-died&p=5960164#post5960164
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...advice-from-John-Bolton&p=5960155#post5960155
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ons-On-Immigration-Plan&p=5960134#post5960134
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...Encouraging-Legal-Immig&p=5959485#post5959485
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ons-On-Immigration-Plan&p=5959325#post5959325
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ons-On-Immigration-Plan&p=5958976#post5958976
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ONLY-one-in-the-race-wh&p=5958285#post5958285

Apologizing for Trump wanting a National ID Card
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...Encouraging-Legal-Immig&p=5959469#post5959469

I could go on for days....



You would like to think so. Or you are just deflecting.
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Wow, unreal
 
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