Rand vs Trump Poll. Who do these forums support?

[GunnyFreedom]

Wow. Yes, because you keep claiming I lied about you and I never did. I even took the time to attempt to help you clear your delusion. But, here you go again. Stating the same lie over and over again. That is exactly what Goebbels was talking about.



Gunny, you are the one doing harm to the liberty movement. In your delusion, you are suggesting that someone be ousted who has said multiple times that they are voting for Rand. I also haven't been running around here cutting him down. Yet, that's not good enough for the self-ordained hangman.

You are making an ass out of yourself.

How about you do something productive and start making phone calls for Rand?

The only reason we are arguing, is because you are being mean and nasty, and accusing everyone else of horrible things merely because they have the audacity to disagree with Your Highness. There is an ass in this conversation alright, and she needs to stop.

 

[acptulsa]

Gunny studies at the Goebbels school.

I have said over and over again, that I will be voting for Rand.

There was a time you had no use at all for a flip flopper like Trump, and could have understood that he was controlled opposition. Even if you do still consider Rand Paul your 'first choice', that is still a shift of viewpoint--and not in the direction of principle.

There was also a time when you would not have accused Gunny of being some kind of Goebbels. Especially in a thread full of Trump spammers who are daily repeating lies in the hopes that repetition will make them believable.

And there was a time when you'd have banned people for falsely comparing Gunny to Goebbels.

Just the facts, ma'am.

If we need a break, then by all means give us a break.

Not only calling them stormfronters, he also accused them of being paid, but if you look at their post history, AuH20 and David Sadler, and others, were saying the same things about immigration that are triggering the accusations of being paid, way before Trump announced.

Just trying to give you people the benefit of the doubt. Because if you people really are doing for free what the Establishment is paying thousands of people to do, then your behavior is not only unprincipled, but downright foolish.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

I can see why you would think that, but it's not the case. What is true is that one, I no longer have to put up with being attacked.

LMAO you seriously think you are the one being attacked? This entire argument is over YOU attacking US. You really, really need help.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Ron Paul would very much support people standing on principle and defending what is right and good. Ron Paul would very much support our rejection of Trump. I have not changed a whit in 20 years, and once again you are trying to cause pain with words. It's pathetic. When did you become a sadist? Ron Paul himself said that I stand exclusively on principle and will fight for right good and truth against all odds.

Are you saying that Ron Paul himself is wrong about me?

Or are you willing to consider maybe, just maybe, you are the one who has lost her way?

So, you are saying that because you were a one-term Congressman, that you have Carte Blanche to insult the hell out of people on these forums and decide who is welcome in the liberty movement and who isn't? Really? This forum belongs to Bryan; not you, not me.

Note: What did you do with this post, Gunny, including that big 'ol graphic with Ron's letter of support for your candidacy?

 

[LibertyEagle]

The only reason we are arguing, is because you are being mean and nasty, and accusing everyone else of horrible things merely because they have the audacity to disagree with Your Highness. There is an ass in this conversation alright, and she needs to stop.

Disagree with what? Disagree with you repeatedly calling me a liar for something I never said?

Disagree with me saying I would likely vote for Trump in the General if he was the Republican nominee, the way things stand right now? I don't care if you agree or not. Doesn't matter to me at all. Knock your socks off.

LMAO you seriously think you are the one being attacked? This entire argument is over YOU attacking US. You really, really need help.

Seriously, you need a break, Gunny. That is the kindest thing I can say to you at this point.

 

[kahless]

You attack people to deliberately cause them harm for the sin of merely disagreeing with you.

That is a bit hypocritical to accuse LE of that considering you spent a large part of this thread doing the same to me.

The only reason we are arguing, is because you are being mean and nasty, and accusing everyone else of horrible things merely because they have the audacity to disagree with Your Highness. There is an ass in this conversation alright, and she needs to stop.

Listen to yourself. Get a grip.

LMAO you seriously think you are the one being attacked? This entire argument is over YOU attacking US. You really, really need help.

Listen to yourself. It is really the other way around.

This is all on you. I think we all can agree to disagree. Peace out. Really.

 

[acptulsa]

That is a bit hypocritical to accuse LE of that considering you spent a large part of this thread doing the same to me.

Care to go back and take a look at the mission statement for this website...?

 

[garyallen59]

I can see why you would think that, but it's not the case. What is true is that one, I no longer have to put up with being attacked and two, I have always stood up for the little guy. I honestly think some of you guys would benefit from taking a break. Because if you are here every day and never get away, I think there is a tendency to become what you once hated.

I don't sit on here like a zombie, ya know, pouring over every thread. I come here in leisure time and read something that catches my eye. I need no break and have not become some weird thing that I once hated, whatever that means. I'm more active now because I feel I have to be because we don't have as many motivators around here anymore. I like to hang back and chill that's my way but if I gotta step up and call people to action and work my butt off I will.
.

Then flag it for the Mods and/or send Bryan a message. That's always been the way. It's nothing new.

Really. Thats all you had to say about that. Dang, I thought that was one of those movie speeches that changes people's hearts. Oh, well I tried.

 

[jj-]

Just trying to give you people the benefit of the doubt. Because if you people really are doing for free what the Establishment is paying thousands of people to do, then your behavior is not only unprincipled, but downright foolish.

The person who falsely calls others "stormfronters" likes to give them the benefit of the doubt? Ok.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

So, you are saying that because you were a one-term Congressman,

I was never in Congress, but thanks for that dig.

that you have Carte Blanche to insult the hell out of people

I am guessing they do not have mirrors on your planet? This whole thing here has blown up because of you attacking people whom you disagree with. This isn't me, ACPTulsa, klamath, GaryAllen, and so on, this is you lashing out at people, and people defending themselves against your sadistic attacks.

You attack people, lie on them, and then lose you mind when we don;t just roll over and take it? What the hell is wrong with you?

on these forums and decide who is welcome in the liberty movement and who isn't? Really? This forum belongs to Bryan; not you, not me.

I don't go crying to 'authority' whenever people attack me, I defend myself. If you don't like it, then you should stop attacking people for having the audacity to disagree with Your Highness, because if you keep attacking me, then I will keep defending myself against your lies.

If you want me to stop defending myself against you lies, the answer is simple. Stop doing it.

You are the one running around attacking me, and then getting offended when I fight back.

If my defending myself from your attacks bothers you that much that you want me to go to Bryan, then the answer is really simple: stop attacking me.

Stop attacking us, and we will no longer need to defend ourselves against your hostility. Problem solved, right?

Or can you simply just not resist trying to hurt those of us who still have principles?

Is it the fact that we have principles why you are attacking us?

Or do you not like how we look? Maybe you just don't like the cut of our jib.

Either way, you are the one attacking us, and we are the ones defending our honor from your venom.

Don't like it? The stop spitting venom at us and it stops.

You are the one who is wrong here, and you really do need to repent.

 

[LibertyEagle]

There was a time you had no use at all for a flip flopper like Trump, and could have understood that he was controlled opposition. Even if you do still consider Rand Paul your 'first choice', that is still a shift of viewpoint--and not in the direction of principle.

I still don't have a whole lot of use for him. ONE MORE TIME, I AM SUPPORTING RAND. My comment about Trump was if the general was between Trump and someone like Bernie or Hillary. I explained why. That's all I can do. It's not like I am running around here pitching Trump. You guys, however, have caused a TON of posts about Trump. Not sure why you think this is a good plan.

There was also a time when you would not have accused Gunny of being some kind of Goebbels. Especially in a thread full of Trump spammers who are daily repeating lies in the hopes that repetition will make them believable.

And there was a time when you'd have banned people for falsely comparing Gunny to Goebbels.

Yes, and there was a time when Gunny didn't act like Goebbels.

Just the facts, ma'am.

If we need a break, then by all means give us a break.

Just trying to give you people the benefit of the doubt. Because if you people really are doing for free what the Establishment is paying thousands of people to do, then your behavior is not only unprincipled, but downright foolish.

Really? I am now, "you people", in your eyes?

 

[LibertyEagle]

I was never in Congress, but thanks for that dig.

State house, whatever.

I wasn't trying to insult you.

How many deadbolts do you put on your doors, Gunny?

 

[GunnyFreedom]

That is a bit hypocritical to accuse LE of that considering you spent a large part of this thread doing the same to me.

If you don't like me tearing down your arguments, then stop promoting Donald Trump on RON PAUL FORUMS. If you were promoting Donald Trump on Donald Trump Forums I can promise you that I would not be decimating your arguments. If you were promoting Rand Paul on Rand Paul Forums I can promise you that I would not be decimating your arguments.

But you come on to Ron Paul Forums to promote Donald Trump and you think we should just leave you alone to spam your crap in peace?

PFFFT! get real!

If you can't handle having your arguments utterly destroyed, then don't go on Ron Paul Forums to promote Donald Trump.

Listen to yourself. Get a grip.

Listen to yourself. It is really the other way around.

Of course you would say that. She's defending the trumpspam, and you are a trumpspammer. It doesn't make any of it true. You are both acting just like Donald Trump. This is one of the reasons why I say Donald Trump is an infectious disease that attacks the rational centers of the brain. The people doing this crap act just like him. Like they turned into little Trump clones frothing off at the mouth.

This is all on you. I think we all can agree to disagree. Peace out. Really.

The only reason there is any arguing about this subject AT ALL on these forums, are the people spamming hundreds of Trump treads all over RON PAUL FORUMS. If not for YOU and the four others like you bloviating endlessly about Donald Trump on RON PAUL FORUMS there would not be this pushback. THAT is entirely on YOU.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

State house, whatever.

I wasn't trying to insult you.

How many deadbolts do you put on your doors, Gunny?

None. I literally have not locked my doors in 18 years.

You are seeing sinners all around you when you really should be looking inside yourself.

My mother once taught me that when the entire planet disagrees with me, it's probably not the planet who is wrong.

This is advice I took to heart at a very young age. You should really consider it.

 

[LibertyEagle]

I am guessing they do not have mirrors on your planet? This whole thing here has blown up because of you attacking people whom you disagree with. This isn't me, ACPTulsa, klamath, GaryAllen, and so on, this is you lashing out at people, and people defending themselves against your sadistic attacks.

You attack people, lie on them, and then lose you mind when we don;t just roll over and take it? What the hell is wrong with you?

I didn't lie "on" you, or about you. You, however, have.

I don't go crying to 'authority' whenever people attack me, I defend myself.

I don't either. I did flag one of your posts though, but I'm pretty sure it was one where you were attacking someone else. It's really not my style to flag someone who is attacking me.

If you don't like it, then you should stop attacking people for having the audacity to disagree with Your Highness, because if you keep attacking me, then I will keep defending myself against your lies.

There you go again. Calling ME a liar. Still can't deal with taking that foot out of your own mouth, can you? It's called transference, I believe.

If you want me to stop defending myself against you lies, the answer is simple. Stop doing it.

You are the one running around attacking me, and then getting offended when I fight back.

Hmm... On second thought, I think it's called projecting. Yes, yes, I think that is it.

Projection
Projection (Psychological)

1) An unconscious self-defence mechanism characterised by a person unconsciously attributing their own issues onto someone or something else as a form of delusion and denial.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Projection

If my defending myself from your attacks bothers you that much that you want me to go to Bryan, then the answer is really simple: stop attacking me.

Stop attacking us, and we will no longer need to defend ourselves against your hostility. Problem solved, right?

lol. I never said anything about me going to Bryan. I suggested it to those of you who seem to believe you have the right to run around like a little gang calling people stormfronters, etc. The way has always been to flag it for the Mods or take it to Bryan. Since you apparently have a Mod in your pocket, perhaps you should try that tactic.

Or can you simply just not resist trying to hurt those of us who still have principles?

You mean just keep my mouth shut when you call me a sadist, a liar, etc? So sorry. Ain't gonna happen. And bud, to equate your behavior within 100 miles of Ron Paul's principles is absolutely abhorrent.

Is it the fact that we have principles why you are attacking us?

Or do you not like how we look? Maybe you just don't like the cut of our jib.

Either way, you are the one attacking us, and we are the ones defending our honor from your venom.

Don't like it? The stop spitting venom at us and it stops.

You are the one who is wrong here, and you really do need to repent.

You are the one spewing venom, Gunny. Sorry, but you aren't going to bully me. It may have worked on others, so you think it will work on everyone. But, so sorry.

 

[William Tell]

Interesting how some who used to freak out at anyone undermining Ron or Rand, are now freaking out at those who want to stop Trump supporters from damaging Rand. How times change.

 

[Anti Federalist]

HAVE YOU GUYS BECOME FRICKIN' MORONS???

I have said over and over that I am supporting Rand, and will be, unless he drops out of the race, or loses the primary.

If that isn't enough for you, then you know where to stick it.

Seriously, your behavior is not attracting anyone. You're acting like a bunch of wannabe bullies.

Go home, you're drunk.

I support Rand first, but if he doesn't make it, the way things stand right now, I will be voting for Trump.

Voting Trump is a losing proposition, regardless.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Go home, you're drunk.

I haven't had a drop.

Voting Trump is a losing proposition, regardless.

Buy a clue, folks. You are driving people away from Rand. Not to him.

Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
I support Rand first, but if he doesn't make it, the way things stand right now, I will be voting for Trump.

Yes, doofus, for the 99th time, I support Rand first.

If that's not good enough for you, stick it.

 

[jj-]

Go home, you're drunk.

lol, she said nothing wrong there. If you want to talk about drunk read some of the other fantastic posts that have graced this thread.

Voting Trump is a losing proposition, regardless.

Trying to set the second or third choices of people will be a tall order. Such level of conformity might not be achieved even in North Korea.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Interesting how some who used to freak out at anyone undermining Ron or Rand, are now freaking out at those who want to stop Trump supporters from damaging Rand. How times change.

Oh.
My.
God.

If you think that someone should be banned, flag the Mods or message Bryan. That has always been the way. Not to run around here calling them stormfronters, or that they aren't welcome in the liberty movement.