Being that the posts on these forums have given the media the belief the Ron and Rand people have deserted Rand for Trump I figured a solid indication on how these forums stand would be helpful. If it is true I came back to the wrong place and will be out of here because I don't want ANY part in promoting Trump.
Rand vs Trump Poll. Who do these forums support?
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RonPaulFanInGA
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I support Rand Paul, easily. Trump's "support" here is just because he's exciting, by being first in the polls. Trumpmania goes away the second he fades in the polls, if he ever does.
Also: Much more tolerable to see Trump support on RonPaulForums than support for Bernie Sanders.
Also: Much more tolerable to see Trump support on RonPaulForums than support for Bernie Sanders.
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It's not the forums who like Trump, it's only about 5 (out of thousands) of posters. Problem is those 5 are VERY vocal about it, and the mods/admins are turning a blind eye to the effect it is having for the Big6 Media reporting that Ron Paul fans have abandoned Rand in favor of Trump.
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Rand. The mods aren't turning a blind eye, there hasn't been this much discussion here for quite some time.
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Ridiculous poll question is ridiculous.
Trump would not know freedom and liberty if he tripped over it.
He's just a loudmouthed demogogue that happened to start spouting off some things that people want to hear.
Trump would not know freedom and liberty if he tripped over it.
He's just a loudmouthed demogogue that happened to start spouting off some things that people want to hear.
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Not really. Nine years this site has existed, and not once have people here ever been given to the frontrunner shiny.
The only difference I see between Trump and Sanders, is that Trump is more rude about it than Sanders. They certainly aren't any different on actual policy.
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Traffic may be nice, but when you have news outlets reporting Ron Paul people going gaga over Trump, it is damaging Ron Paul's legacy of principle over appearances.
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This RPF thread shows KOS talking about Breitbart. The takeaway is Breitbart thinks that a vast majority of former Ron Paul supporters are totally on board with making Trump President. Breitbart is extremely influential in Republican Primaries.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...aries-Breitbart-Hates-Charity-(And-Rand-Paul)
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I agree with CPUds assessment.
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That depends. Cruz's proposed %500 increase in H-1B immigration makes him the biggest traitor to American citizens in the party. Right now the average voter is likely ignorant to that fact since FNC and MSM is not reporting it or using propaganda to make him seem strong on immigration, but that could change.
I do not see them going LP since there are too many open border Libertarians, but it depends on the candidate. More likely I could see them going to the Constitution party, staying home again or another Republican that takes up the anti-immigration mantle. Walker for example has been making allot of noise on H-1B and immigration as of late.
That's exactly why I suggested that those five or so people be banned. However, I was generally attacked and criticized for suggesting that.
Not at all. If anything I would say that Trump is even worse since he's a big fan of bailouts and Bernie Sanders is opposed to bailouts.
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I agree. They should be banned. They are not simply leaning towards Trump. They are actively campaigning for him in the Rand Paul Forums while simultaneously bashing Rand. I don't know why the mods don't see that. Anyone can name the ones who are a thorn in the side of the RPF's. I didn't vote in the other poll about banning Trump supporters because I thought it was too broad a definition. But those whose only goal is to trash Rand and praise Trump should be banned completely or at the least from the Rand Paul Section of the forum.
Also, this poll should have been public.
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I support Rand being bolder. The version we have now isn't going to inspire anybody.
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I would prefer the person who wrote a book (Rand Paul; Government Bullies) speaking out against, in part, eminent domain and the abuses therein, rather than the person who used/uses eminent domain for their own private benefit (Donald Trump).
Donald Trump has one issue 'right' ('free' trade agreements). And that is being very fair on my part as all of his 'positions' are really just rhetoric (which is liable to change depending the weather) and as well, I didn't feel like wasting another fifteen minutes reading what Donald Trump has to write (and eventually stumbling upon why his one 'right' position has authoritarian roots behind it, i.e. even the batshit crazy are occasionally right--though often not for the right reasons).
Good to see the poll speaks for itself.
For someone to say to me that they understand economics and then vote for Trump, they will have lost respect from me. If people say they are against wars and then vote for Trump, they will have lost respect from me. If people say they are pro-2nd Amendment and then vote for Trump, they will have lost respect from me. You could go on and on. I mean his positions are so bad they make awful candidates seem palatable. For God's sake, someone owes me the hour of my life back that I spent researching that fuck with.
Donald Trump has one issue 'right' ('free' trade agreements). And that is being very fair on my part as all of his 'positions' are really just rhetoric (which is liable to change depending the weather) and as well, I didn't feel like wasting another fifteen minutes reading what Donald Trump has to write (and eventually stumbling upon why his one 'right' position has authoritarian roots behind it, i.e. even the batshit crazy are occasionally right--though often not for the right reasons).
Good to see the poll speaks for itself.
For someone to say to me that they understand economics and then vote for Trump, they will have lost respect from me. If people say they are against wars and then vote for Trump, they will have lost respect from me. If people say they are pro-2nd Amendment and then vote for Trump, they will have lost respect from me. You could go on and on. I mean his positions are so bad they make awful candidates seem palatable. For God's sake, someone owes me the hour of my life back that I spent researching that fuck with.
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Question. Has anything been done to change the new rules that the RNC put in effect during the last convention that as I recall basically says that the RNC itself can choose the delegates? Because while those are in place, please explain to me how any grassroots candidate without overwhelming support will be able to win the Republican nomination. Thanks.
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