Rand up 44-41 over Conway

[RonPaulFanInGA]

not a good sign.

The only "not a good sign" is for Conway that he is still trailing by the same margin from the same pollster as he was fifteen days ago after all his allies in the media did to hurt Paul. Moreso, if you look at the favorability rating, Paul is way more liked.

This poll is bad news for Conway. It's only going to get worse for him when SurveyUSA or PPP polls.

 

[rprprs]

1. ky voters supported the health care policy until it became known as obamacare. once people find out the cops aren't going to come to your house and shoot your grandparents for not purchasing it people are going to be more favorable to it.

2. barack's skin color has a lot to do with it. hillary clinton won the primary in 2008 with close to 70 percent of the vote and voters admitted in polls the barack's skin color played a roll. conway's white

Both the veracity and the motivation of your assertions are open to question.
Nonetheless, let's proceed, for a second, as if they are true.

1. If the current and prevailing opposition to the administration's health care plan can somehow be attributed to is moniker, we should not expect that to change anytime soon. Even the liberal left employs the term "Obamacare". Furthermore, the impact of the act's provisions will not be felt in sufficient time to change anybody's mind. If the act, or parts thereof, eventually serve to ameliorate the public's distaste, this will certainly not occur prior to November.

2. Your second assertion is, undoubtedly, the more "controversial" of the two. However, if we, reluctantly, assign it some degree of merit, then we might also suggest that any politician running lock, stock and barrel with Obama's agenda might be subject to those same forces. They will easily be seen as a surrogate, if you will, for the black man in the White House. Conway may be white, but so is Rand, and those unfortunate souls motivated to cast a vote exclusively on the basis of "skin color" will not be pulling the lever for Barack Obama's avatar.

Now, did you have a third point to make?

 

[sailingaway]

Both the veracity and the motivation of your assertions are open to question.
Nonetheless, let's proceed, for a second, as if they are true.

1. If the current and prevailing opposition to the administration's health care plan can somehow be attributed to is moniker, we should not expect that to change anytime soon. Even the liberal left employs the term "Obamacare". Furthermore, the impact of the act's provisions will not be felt in sufficient time to change anybody's mind. If the act, or parts thereof, eventually serve to ameliorate the public's distaste, this will certainly not occur prior to November.

2. Your second assertion is, undoubtedly, the more "controversial" of the two. However, if we, reluctantly, assign it some degree of merit, then we might also suggest that any politician running lock, stock and barrel with Obama's agenda might be subject to those same forces. They will easily be seen as a surrogate, if you will, for the black man in the White House. Conway may be white, but so is Rand, and those unfortunate souls motivated to cast a vote exclusively on the basis of "skin color" will not be pulling the lever for Barack Obama's avatar.

Now, did you have a third point to make?

Don't worry about it. If this poster is in favor of Obamacare, he may or may not be a troll, here, but he is definitely out of touch with both the country and what is actually in the bill. Unless he works for big pharma or Wellpoint, that is, the only logical parties to favor it.

 

[Live_Free_Or_Die]

so if someone disagrees with you there your all out enemy?

I wanted to render a personal opinion on your comment:

My enemies are the ideas and policies based on philosophies of aggression and violence.

If you happen to believe in policies that advocate making people who do not purchase a government approved health care product into tax delinquents who will be persecuted by the IRS in which agents of government will ultimately use whatever means necessary to collect including breaking down your front door then... yes you are my enemy while you hold that belief.

However I am not an unfriendly enemy. As a matter of fact I don't mind keeping a few enemies close so I know what the hell they are up to.

Welcome to the forum. This forum could use a few good liberals for some epic debates on ethical uses of force. I hope you have the stomach to stick around.

 

[parocks]

The only "not a good sign" is for Conway that he is still trailing by the same margin from the same pollster as he was fifteen days ago after all his allies in the media did to hurt Paul. Moreso, if you look at the favorability rating, Paul is way more liked.

This poll is bad news for Conway. It's only going to get worse for him when SurveyUSA or PPP polls.

doesn't the original post say may 10-12? This is the old poll, I think.

 

[South Park Fan]

doesn't the original post say may 10-12? This is the old poll, I think.

No, Paul is winning in the new poll by the exact same margin.

 

[Chieftain1776]

Going through some of the old threads I participated in and noticed that this polling company got sued by DailyKos and the poll was most likely bogus. Good call by the posters in the thread! Particularly specsaregood above:

During the 2008 U.S. elections, Research 2000 was contracted by the website Daily Kos to conduct nonpartisan polling of various races, including presidential, senate and gubernatorial races. This partnership was slated to continue into the 2010 U.S. elections, but Daily Kos terminated the relationship in early June 2010, citing poor performance.[4]

In June 2010, three independent amateur statisticians (Mark Grebner, Michael Weissman, and Jonathan Weissman) began investigating Research 2000's numbers and suspected that they had been fabricated. They were concerned enough to contact Daily Kos founder Markos Moulitsas with their suspicions. On June 29, Daily Kos released the findings of that investigation, which concluded Research 2000's data showed extreme statistical anomalies inconsistent with random polling.[5] In a statement of his own accompanying the results, Moulitsas renounced all of the work Research 2000 had done for Daily Kos and also announced that Daily Kos intended to sue the polling firm for fraud.[6][7][8] The suit was filed on June 30, 2010 in the U.S. District Court, Northern District of California.[9]

 

[Brett85]

Whatever happened to Fozz?

 

[William Tell]

Whatever happened to Fozz?

Looks like still around:

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