Rand speaking at Boone County GOP

[supermario21]

The problem is rhetoric. You STILL have so many minorities of all ethnic groups believing that Democrats are for minorities and Republicans are only out to help white people. Plus some of these groups such as Hispanics have likely not gotten "up to speed" in terms of being assimilated and actually knowing how government works.

 

[Rudeman]

Is it really a surprise that minorities don't support Republicans, most of us didn't support Romney or other Republicans. The Republican party has been effectively labeled as the Old White party, who only help the rich. Then you add the Social Conservatives (rape), pro-war, and the anti-liberty positions that scare off the younger voters it's a surprise the Republicans even keep it as close as they do.

They haven't even been conservative (limited government) they've basically been a bunch of intolerant, war mongering Democrats.

 

[Brett85]

Perhaps the Republican Party would get more support from hispanics and blacks if they supported a more anti war, non interventionist foreign policy. I haven't seen the polls to see where latinos and blacks stand on foreign policy issues.

 

[Brett85]

Then you add the Social Conservatives (rape), pro-war, and the anti-liberty positions that scare off the younger voters it's a surprise the Republicans even keep it as close as they do.

Social conservatives oppose laws against rape? I didn't realize that.

 

[klamath]

Is it really a surprise that minorities don't support Republicans, most of us didn't support Romney or other Republicans. The Republican party has been effectively labeled as the Old White party, who only help the rich. Then you add the Social Conservatives (rape), pro-war, and the anti-liberty positions that scare off the younger voters it's a surprise the Republicans even keep it as close as they do.

They haven't even been conservative (limited government) they've basically been a bunch of intolerant, war mongering Democrats.

Chances are you would never vote republican ever anyhow.
You are a prime example of what I was pointing out you have became so anti R you will vote for the real war party and the real killing anti liberty party and never ever look back.

 

[Occam's Banana]

Perhaps the Republican Party would get more support from hispanics and blacks if they supported a more anti war, non interventionist foreign policy. I haven't seen the polls to see where latinos and blacks stand on foreign policy issues.

They'd probably get more support from *every* non-ideological group if they did that. They'd also get more support from (compatible) ideological groups.

But the same goes for the Democrats, too. The problem is, anti-war & non-interventionism just aren't in the Red Team vs. Blue Team playbook.

There are a few players who "miss their lanes" - Ron Paul & Dennis Kucinich come to mind, among others - but not nearly enough to stop the march down the field.

Rs & Ds may be willing to pander on issues like immigration or whatnot, but they'll never go so far as to change the agenda on something that *really* matters to the "system" - like keeping the MIC happy & well fed.

 

[Rudeman]

Social conservatives oppose laws against rape? I didn't realize that.

Did I say that? I was referring to the comments about rape, you may agree with those comments (I didn't really have an issue with them) but they're a turnoff to most young voters.

 

[Rudeman]

Chances are you would never vote republican ever anyhow.
You are a prime example of what I was pointing out you have became so anti R you will vote for the real war party and the real killing anti liberty party and never ever look back.

I am not anti-Republican. I vote Republican when there are good candidates. Yes I did vote for Dems early on (I was one of those idiots that thought Kerry would be better) but I also voted for Republicans in local elections.

If Rand runs I will happily support him. I just won't support candidates like Romney.

Maybe my post came off in the wrong way.

 

[Brett85]

Did I say that? I was referring to the comments about rape, you may agree with those comments (I didn't really have an issue with them) but they're a turnoff to most young voters.

I don't think that the GOP should back off of their support for pro life policies, but yes GOP candidates do need to stop saying stupid things when the issue comes up.

 

[simplyjacy]

Did I ever say we should do that? No. There is a middle ground between deporting 12 million illegal immigrants and allowing all of them to become U.S citizens.

1) If you cut off their welfare benefits and punish the employers who hire them (the employer sanctions would need to be done at the state level) then most of them would simply leave on their own. Illegal immigrants aren't going to stay here if they can't find a job and can't receive welfare benefits.

2) If we come to the conclusion that it's not feasible to cut off their welfare benefits or put employer sanctions in place, then perhaps we could look at giving the illegals who are here a guest worker status. They would be able to stay here and work and pay taxes, but they wouldn't become full citizens and have the right to vote. I don't believe that we should give full citizenship to and allow people to vote who broke our laws.

This^^

 

[69360]

I don't think that the GOP should back off of their support for pro life policies, but yes GOP candidates do need to stop saying stupid things when the issue comes up.

They need to stop the waffling and explaining themselves into a corner. If they are pro life and do not support a rape or incest exception, they need to just plainly state that and move on with the interview. Something like, "this is my position and I do not intend to change it". Sure it will get reported and some voters might not like it, but it's not a big news story until you start waffling, backpedaling and giving the liberal media tasty soundbites of you doing that.

 

[July]

They need to stop the waffling and explaining themselves into a corner. If they are pro life and do not support a rape or incest exception, they need to just plainly state that and move on with the interview. Something like, "this is my position and I do not intend to change it". Sure it will get reported and some voters might not like it, but it's not a big news story until you start waffling, backpedaling and giving the liberal media tasty soundbites of you doing that.

I agree with that. Be more proactive, instead of just reacting to Democrats all of the time... when you are constantly reacting to loaded questions and going on the defensive right from the start, the response almost always comes off like an apology, or can seem like backpedaling... When a statement doesn't sound confident, it gives more credibility to those who are suggesting there is something shameful about your position.

This is a problem the GOP has across the board with conservative issues in general, IMO, not just on abortion. Republicans aren't proactive enough in defending and articulating positions.