Rand Paul: Will Donald Trump betray voters by hiring John Bolton?

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November 15, 2016

Rumors are that Donald Trump might pick John Bolton for Secretary of State. Heaven forbid.

One of the things I occasionally liked about the President-elect was his opposition to the Iraq war and regime change. He not only grasped the mistake of that war early, but also seemed to fully understand how it disrupted the balance of power in the Middle East and even emboldened Iran.

We liberated Iraq, but today their best friend is Iran, their second greatest ally is Russia, and their third strongest alliance is with Syria. Trump really seems to get the lesson. Hillary Clinton never did.

Most importantly right now, John Bolton never learned and never will.

Bolton is a longtime member of the failed Washington elite that Trump vowed to oppose, hell-bent on repeating virtually every foreign policy mistake the U.S. has made in the last 15 years — particularly those Trump promised to avoid as president.

John Bolton more often stood with Hillary Clinton and against what Donald Trump has advised.

None of this is secret. It’s all out there. Perhaps the incoming administration should take a closer look.

Bolton was one of the loudest advocates of overthrowing Saddam Hussein and still stupefyingly insists it was the right call 13 years later. “I still think the decision to overthrow Saddam was correct,” Bolton said just last year.

Trump, rightly, believes that decision was a colossal mistake that destabilized the region. “Iraq used to be no terrorists,” Trump said in 2015. “(N)ow it’s the Harvard of terrorism.”

“If you look at Iraq from years ago, I’m not saying he was a nice guy, he was a horrible guy,” Trump said of Saddam Hussein, “but it was a lot better than it is right now.”

Trump has said U.S. intervention in Iraq in 2003 “helped to throw the region into chaos and gave ISIS the space it needs to grow and prosper.” In contrast, Bolton has said explicitly that he wants to repeat Iraq-style regime change in Syrian and Iran.

You can’t learn from mistakes if you don’t see mistakes.

Trump has blamed George W. Bush, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton for helping to create ISIS — but should add John Bolton to that list, who essentially agreed with all three on our regime change debacles.

In 2011, Bolton bashed Obama “for his refusal to directly target Gaddafi” and declared, “there is a strategic interest in toppling Gaddafi… But Obama missed it.” In fact, Obama actually took Bolton’s advice and bombed the Libyan dictator into the next world. Secretary of State Clinton bragged, “We came, we saw, he died.”

When Trump was asked last year if Libya and the region would be more stable today with Gaddafi in power, he replied “100 percent.” Mr. Trump is 100 percent right.

No man is more out of touch with the situation in the Middle East or more dangerous to our national security than Bolton.

All nuance is lost on the man. The fact that Russia has had a base in Syria for 50 years doesn’t deter Bolton from calling for all out, no holds barred war in Syria. Bolton criticized the current administration for offering only a tepid war. For Bolton, only a hot-blooded war to create democracy across the globe is demanded.

Woodrow Wilson would be proud, but the parents of our soldiers should be mortified. War should be the last resort, never the first. War should be understood to be a hell no one wishes for. Dwight Eisenhower understood this when he wrote, “I hate war like only a soldier can, the stupidity, the banality, the futility.”

Bolton would not understand this because, like many of his generation, he used every privilege to avoid serving himself. Bolton said, with the threat of the Vietnam draft over his head, that “he had no desire to die in a Southeast Asian rice paddy.” But he’s seems to be okay with your son or daughter dying wherever his neoconservative impulse leads us: “Even before the Iraq War, John Bolton was a leading brain behind the neoconservatives’ war-and-conquest agenda,” notes The American Conservative’s Jon Utley.

At a time when Americans thirst for change and new thinking, Bolton is an old hand at failed foreign policy.

The man is a menace.

continued...http://rare.us/story/rand-paul-will-donald-trump-betray-voters-by-hiring-john-bolton/
 
Rand didn't get the memo.

Trump is playing a deadly game of secret-squirrel head fakery. I'm sure someone here will set Rand straight.
 
Rand didn't get the memo.

Trump is playing a deadly game of secret-squirrel head fakery. I'm sure someone here will set Rand straight.

Yes, there are five or six really smart and in the know people here who can see the trees through the forest. The rest of us are just political ignoramus's and neophytes.
 
My thoughts exactly, I mean he has Rand slated as a SOS or head of the Federal Reserve or some such, they have to have each other on speed dial.

I guess he could be trying to hold his hand to the fire but it seems standoffish and snobby to write this if he is actually trying to influence him.

It's like your neighbor sending you a letter from his lawyer instead of just talking to you first.
 
Looks like it is between Guiliani and Bolton.

REPORT: Rudy Giuliani is Donald Trumps First Choice for Secretary of State.
http://www.mediaite.com/online/repo...d-trumps-first-choice-for-secretary-of-state/


http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/g...-out-of-attorney-general-race/article/2607408
Former diplomat John Bolton is also reportedly under consideration for the spot and Giuliani said he would be "a very good choice."

"Is there anybody better?" asked Wall Street Journal editor-in-chief Gerard Baker.

"Maybe me, I don't know," Giuliani replied, getting laughs from those gathered for the event.
 
I voted for Trump because there was a reasonable chance he could straighten out US Foreign Policy.

If he chooses Bolton he's as crooked as them all.
 
I guess he could be trying to hold his hand to the fire but it seems standoffish and snobby to write this if he is actually trying to influence him.

It's like your neighbor sending you a letter from his lawyer instead of just talking to you first.

Your assumption is that he didn't try talking to him first.
 
I doubt he has any kind of access to him right now. It's probably pretty tough getting through the crowd of neo cons and establishment guys he's surrounding himself with.
Really? Seems like he'd take a call from anyone he stood up there on stage with. I mean he is a well loved senator who recently won again.
 
Why doesn't he just contact him?

Because he knows how Trump works. Whoever the last guy is that talks to Trump is who Trump listens to. By putting it down in writing that a certain segment of the population will be very disappointed in that kind of choice, Rand is trying his best to influence the choice. Smart move - and I expect it to pay off. That kind of pick would be a disaster.
 
Bolton wasn't confirmed by the Senate last time and hopefully he would not be confirmed this time. Some journalist was asking if Rand Paul would vote in favor of Bolton. I'm glad to see the answer is NO.

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Rand can block appointments in committee unless Democrats defect

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...on-would-get-his-vote-for-secretary-of-state/

Paul is one of the very few Republicans in a position to influence this. As a member of the Foreign Relations Committee, he will get to vote on whether to recommend Trump’s nominee for secretary of state. The results of the 2016 elections will give Republicans a 10-9 majority on the committee, meaning that Paul could cast a decisive vote, with every Democrat, against recommending a Trump nominee. That would not stop a full Senate vote on the nominee, but it would expose fissures in the Republican Party in the first weeks of a Trump administration.

According to Paul, a different nominee, like current Senate Foreign Relations Chairman Bob Corker, would have an easier time navigating the Senate. He also suggested that realists would get a broader hearing than “the neocons” who had advocated for war in the past, many of whom went on to endorse Hillary Clinton for president.
 
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Bolton is a dangerous pick. I do not believe in false flag attack in general, but I believe Bolton would bomb US elementary schools and hospital so we would go to war. This man belongs in jail.
 
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