Rand Paul to Skip RNC Convention

[jllundqu]

Rand continues to marginalize himself. I'm not sure his heart is really in to politics anymore. Wouldn't be surprised if he goes back to ophthalmology in the next year or so and that is probably for the best. Time for a new generation of Liberty Politicians to take the reigns. Trump's victory is going to smash the existing political paradigm and open up huge opportunities for us to make electoral gains.

Bwaaaaahaaahaaaaaaahaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!! That made me spit my coffee out..... LMMFAO!!!! Trump a "Liberty Politician"... Rand should "step aside" LMAO!!!!!!!!

 

[Tywysog Cymru]

Nobody thinks Trump himself is pro-liberty. He is however, very good for the liberty movement.

Trump supporters regularly mock libertarians as "losertarians." And, as William Tell pointed out, they vote downballot for establishment candidates. He calls for more taxes, more torture, and more government.

 

[Jordan Liberty]

Didn't Rand also skip the last convention?

 

[WTLaw]

Total bullshit to think Rand is giving up by not going to the convention. What is he going to even do at the convention, if he isn't given a speaking slot (which he wont be, because Trump hates Rand and Rand hates Trump)...? What purpose?

To be asked awkward questions by the media about why Trump is awful? How is he going to answer those, having endorsed the nominee"..?Rand needs to control the message he sends right now, and the only way he can do that is by being pretty silent on Trump. Its a little like A Man For All Seasons, where Thomas More was trying to squeak by by not saying anything about Henry VIII and letting people just assume that he actually opposed him. In that case, opposing the king gets you executed, in this one, politically marginalized until November. But if, as a matter of principle, you cannot really assent to the king, then you do as Rand has done. Its a good job by him in bad circumstances.

PS, Trump is going to get killed in the electoral college. Rand only has to wait it out a few more months. All you Trump people can then f off, cause you sure arent libertarians.

 

[CaptUSA]

Nobody thinks Trump himself is pro-liberty. He is however, very good for the liberty movement.

You would think that the more words these people type, the less they'd be able to convince themselves of the con they're buying. But no. That does not appear to be the case. They will do anything they can in their minds to convince themselves that Trump benefits liberty somehow. Amazing.

Trump is a really a master at playing to the fantasies of some people. Even if they catch on that it's a con, they STILL think he'll benefit them in some way.

 

[RonPaulMall]

Trump supporters regularly mock libertarians as "losertarians." And, as William Tell pointed out, they vote downballot for establishment candidates. He calls for more taxes, more torture, and more government.

Many Trump supporters voted for Ron Paul. Some of Trump's best districts in the primary race were in areas Ron Paul did the best in 2012. And with the "Libertarian" Party being represented by Gary Johnson and Bill Weld, it is pretty easy (and accurate!) to label them "Losertarians".

 

[torchbearer]

Total bull$#@! to think Rand is giving up by not going to the convention. What is he going to even do at the convention, if he isn't given a speaking slot (which he wont be, because Trump hates Rand and Rand hates Trump)...? What purpose?

To be asked awkward questions by the media about why Trump is awful? How is he going to answer those, having endorsed the nominee"..?Rand needs to control the message he sends right now, and the only way he can do that is by being pretty silent on Trump. Its a little like A Man For All Seasons, where Thomas More was trying to squeak by by not saying anything about Henry VIII and letting people just assume that he actually opposed him. In that case, opposing the king gets you executed, in this one, politically marginalized until November. But if, as a matter of principle, you cannot really assent to the king, then you do as Rand has done. Its a good job by him in bad circumstances.

PS, Trump is going to get killed in the electoral college. Rand only has to wait it out a few more months. All you Trump people can then f off, cause you sure arent libertarians.

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[RonPaulMall]

PS, Trump is going to get killed in the electoral college. Rand only has to wait it out a few more months. All you Trump people can then f off, cause you sure arent libertarians.

Yup, just like in the GOP Primary when Trump was going to collapse by Christmas. You guys have a brilliant track record of success when it comes to predicting election results. And btw- latest poll (and this is Quinnipiac which has been generally favorable to Clinton in the past) has Trump up in Florida, Pennsylvania, and Ohio.

 

[ProBlue33]

There are other reasons to go, but Rand seems like he is happily married, so he wouldn't be interested in booze, coke and whores with lobbyists.

LOL, so that's what happens at the RNC

 

[torchbearer]

LOL, so that's what happens at the RNC

only in the box seats.

 

[Tywysog Cymru]

Many Trump supporters voted for Ron Paul. Some of Trump's best districts in the primary race were in areas Ron Paul did the best in 2012. And with the "Libertarian" Party being represented by Gary Johnson and Bill Weld, it is pretty easy (and accurate!) to label them "Losertarians".

Trump supporters were doing this long before the Libertarian convention. They mocked libertarians for being concerned with the constitution and limited government.

Yup, just like in the GOP Primary when Trump was going to collapse by Christmas. You guys have a brilliant track record of success when it comes to predicting election results. And btw- latest poll (and this is Quinnipiac which has been generally favorable to Clinton in the past) has Trump up in Florida, Pennsylvania, and Ohio.

Other polls show Trump behind, and sometimes by a lot.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-swing-the-election/

This isn't perfect, but it shows you the difficulty of Trump winning the election. Trump will win less of the Hispanic vote than Romney and Hispanic turnout will increase. Meanwhile, many conservatives will refuse to vote for Trump, cancelling any gains he makes with white working-class Democrats.

 

[WTLaw]

Yup, just like in the GOP Primary when Trump was going to collapse by Christmas. You guys have a brilliant track record of success when it comes to predicting election results. And btw- latest poll (and this is Quinnipiac which has been generally favorable to Clinton in the past) has Trump up in Florida, Pennsylvania, and Ohio.

Okie dokie. We will see. But when your glorious leader loses, and then compliments Hillary effusively during is concession speech, be sure to delete your account here.

I will do the same if the asshole somehow wins. Cause liberty will be dead.

 

[69360]

If I were a politician I wouldn't touch this convention with a ten foot pole either.

When Trump suffers a loss for the history books, everyone who endorsed him will be tainted.

 

[RonPaulMall]

This isn't perfect, but it shows you the difficulty of Trump winning the election. Trump will win less of the Hispanic vote than Romney and Hispanic turnout will increase. Meanwhile, many conservatives will refuse to vote for Trump, cancelling any gains he makes with white working-class Democrats.

Again, latest polls (from polling outfits that have tended to understate Trump support in the past) have Trump up in Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Iowa. That translates to a worst case scenario Trump victory of 279-259. My guess is Trump wins Nevada, Virginia, New Hampshire, and Colorado too by the time he gets done with Hillary and the final tally is actually Trump 311-227.

 

[WTLaw]

Ok, Dick Morris.

By the way, nice John Wilkes Booth picture. Makes you look really cool. Useless, useless.

 

[TheCount]

Many Trump supporters voted for Ron Paul.

Not for liberty reasons.

 

[Chester Copperpot]

http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/rand-paul-skip-rnc-convention/

I think Rand is hedging his bets with this move, if Trump loses, he had enough distance, if he wins, he can say he did his duty and supported the nominee of the party, he is smart. Rand can easily switch gears and say democracy has spoken and the will of the people must be supported AFTER the election.
He will be newly re-elected himself with a fresh mandate as well.

I think it's a good move.

AGREED.

 

[CPUd]

This is going to be the most watched political convention in the history of America. Rand dropped the ball, big time.

People will be tuning in to engage in schadenfreude. For Trump supporters who don't know what that word means- they are not laughing with you, they are laughing at you.

 

[CPUd]

If I were a politician I wouldn't touch this convention with a ten foot pole either.

When Trump suffers a loss for the history books, everyone who endorsed him will be tainted.

That's why he can only get people like Gingrich, Mike Pence, Christie as a running mate. People whose political careers are already effectively over.

 

[devil21]

Aside from the political points already posted, there's very good chances that things will go very sideways during the RNC re:BLM, protests, etc. Not a place to be hanging around without a very specific purpose for attending.