Rand Paul to Skip RNC Convention

[Ender]

How does a car give someone special rights? Please explain.

Why does supporting Trump give one special privileges? I'll go for the car.

 

[Ender]

Appeal to sweet ride fallacy. Common mistake among the young and dumb... which I admittedly took full advantage of as a teen - is that wrong?

I thought it was a guy-thing.

Maybe we're young and dumb forever- OK by me.

 

[kahless]

You have such a victim complex. I've never called you names or even mentioned you by name but I did give you -rep for your aggressive and dismissive comments (which you deserved). You then choose to -rep me (surprise). I only "know" personally a couple of people on this board and none of them are involved here so this idea that we (whoever "we" are) are ganging up against you or trying to have your posts removed is nothing but your own wild imaginations. I really pay ZERO attention to you or your other trumpsters but when I see ANYONE making comments that I think are wrong I have a mission to "correct" them when I can...

I did not post in this thread to CPUd and did not make any insults to her, you or anyone else. Then CPUd as usual, whenever I post here starts with the insults back to back and as usual I ignore her - do not return them. When and if I finally do get around to simply saying what I believe her insults demonstrate you and others as usual make a white knight effort like a bunch of cucks and stick your nose in where it does not belong. Then as usual everything I post even the stuff that has nothing that can be considered as insulting gets deleted - censored and I get warned by the mods. FACT.

Where was my defense with the repeated unwarranted insults ever time I try to post here? This not only happens to me it happens to any new people or casual members that do not usually post here to dissuade them from ever posting here again. It fits a pattern and you are backing it up to make it impossible to expand the movement here and have discussions without insults.

Your representation of my posting history, what actually happened and the fact you continue to down this route to perpetuate this behavior demonstrates you are part of the problem with this forum. You do a disservice to the Pauls and this forum.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Try to stay on topic everyone. Talking about each other and yourselves is not on topic.

 

[CPUd]

Tentative schedule:

LOL Tebow says he had no idea he was scheduled to speak at the RNC:
https://www.facebook.com/TimTebow/videos/500296036836329/

 

[twomp]

A Trump victory will send the globalists scurrying back into their dark crevices like cockroaches. The unitary executive model was specifically designed for a loyal globalist to utilize as opposed to a former casino grifter with nationalistic tendencies. They might even try to accelerate their plans in desperation.

Yeah and all the neo-cons will quit from congress. Murdoch will give away FOX news to Ron Paul. All the bankers will give away their money and influence. The military industrial complex will stop making weapons and make plastic hearts and flowers. Champagne will fall from the heavens.... talk about delusional....

 

[The Rebel Poet]

Yeah and all the neo-cons will quit from congress. Murdoch will give away FOX news to Ron Paul. All the bankers will give away their money and influence. The military industrial complex will stop making weapons and make plastic hearts and flowers. Champagne will fall from the heavens.... talk about delusional....

Reminds me of a poem I wrote:

When Trump is elected,
The flags we hug will be gold plated,
And the national anthem will he more on key.
The money will be 3D printed,
And the national debt will pay us.


When Trump is President,
The water will be cleaner,
And the food will taste less like chicken.
The peaceniks will be peacier,
and the wars will be way cooler.


When Trump is the CEO of US,
The stock market will be a charity,
And the casinos will let you win.
The elevator music will be exciting,
And the death metal relaxing.


When Trump is King,
The factories will pay better,
And they will not be allowed out of the country,
The dinosaurs will come back from the grave,
And the birds will evolve new features.


When Trump is Emperor,
There will be no more famines,
And no more hurricanes.
There will be no more death,
And no more tears.

 

[Badger Paul]

If you didn't have You Tube would you even remember what Rand said in the last convention four years ago? Something about his Cambodian baker? It's not like he's a great orator.

Either way Rand has no reason to go, either to validate Trump or give a speech I would imagine even most delegates would probably ignore anyways and certainly wouldn't be in prime time or even broadcast during proceedings itself. The networks would probably have some talking heads on while he was giving it.

The fact Rand's talking about term limits tells me this is his last term, he knows the game is up. The remnant of the Ron Paul Revolution basically has a choice: It can accept the fact the authoritarian Republican Party ultimately doesn't want them or want them running the party and go LP or quietly go away by sitting in the back seat of the GOP. There's no question Trump initiated an upheaval within the party but one would be mad to think it would benefit the Liberty Movement in some fashion. Trump voters aren't interested in the Constitution or non-interventionism or what-have-you. What they want is a sense of order, stability, security, in their own lives and the country's that in many cases incongruent to liberty. That what his voters came out of the woodwork for, because they finally had a candidate who expressed what they wanted. Sure there's some overlap in different places (anti-crony capitalism for example, anti-globalism), but overall the two are simply incompatible. The GOP platform is a good example of this. Trump says a lot but that doesn't mean his government will operate in the fashion his fans expect it to, and chances are it will be dominated by the same GOP-flunkie types who got people upset enough to vote for him in the first place.

Bottom line is it should have been Rand's upheaval and it wasn't. He blew it and there's no rescue for it other than outside the Republican Party (because if Trump loses it will be the Cruz crowd running around screaming "Trump wasn't conservative enough!" controlling things in 2020.

 

[WTLaw]

I'm just gonna post this as if I were a drone flying over yemen, in other words drop these few points and then move on.

1. To the person that said that Rand needs to be there to gain influence on the Trump administration, I guess he is thinking that there will be no Trump administration. And so, his job for the next 4 years will be playing defense against Hillary. I think this is the correct calculation.

2. Look at the list of speakers. Who on that list is pro-liberty? I mean besides Tebow, lol. He is the best of the lot, just cause I don't know what he thinks about anything other than abortion and SEC football. Doesn't that list tell you something? Tom Cotton, right off the bat. Look at those losers. Sad.

3. I am not part of the never-kayless crowd, or the never-liberty eagle crowd, because they just arent that important. Actually, that is why I doubt there is a movement against those posters. I do, however, wonder why the hell they are here. They dont fit in. This is a board devoted to pursuing liberty, not nationalism and crony capitalism. So, I dont know. But look on the bright side, they will be gone in like 4 months.

4. Where next after that? Who knows, but the demographics are still in our favor. By which, I mean very respectfully, that the average fox news guzzling, rush listening, GOP voters are all old and are going to die and be replaced by more liberty oriented folks. Still, the GOP will probably be a lesser opposition party for a while, and we are going to see the USSC get ganked. But, eventually, there will be a market for those who have sense politically.

 

[LibertyEagle]

3. I am not part of the never-kayless crowd, or the never-liberty eagle crowd, because they just arent that important. Actually, that is why I doubt there is a movement against those posters. I do, however, wonder why the hell they are here. They dont fit in.

Sure used to. I think that says far more about the current members of the board than it does me.

This is a board devoted to pursuing liberty,

My guess is that you want a libertarian forum, or perhaps a runner up to CPUSA.

not nationalism

Since when is caring about your own nation a bad thing? I know, I know... when the commies twisted all reason and stuffed their propaganda BS down American kiddies throats. Caring about your own well-being, your family, your neighbors, your countrymen and your nation, in that order, is called being sane. I do indeed put this above some one-world government globalist hogwash. Which, by the way, is where your masters are trying to take us.

and crony capitalism.

Seeing as I am the one against all the "free trade" (i.e. crony as all hell capitalist) deals, including the Trans Pacific Partnership, I'm not the one advocating crony capitalism. That would be those who advocate for those deals. What I do believe though, is that if we are not going to totally get rid of them and their international ruling bodies, which is what I would prefer be done, I strongly believe that the agreements should be such that they are at least operating under the same trading rules as those whom we have the agreement with. To not do so would be the epitomy of stupidity. Unless you are just dying to see the nation finish croaking.

So, I dont know. But look on the bright side, they will be gone in like 4 months.

Since I have been here since '07, probably not going to happen. But, you can dream.

4. Where next after that? Who knows, but the demographics are still in our favor. By which, I mean very respectfully, that the average fox news guzzling, rush listening, GOP voters are all old and are going to die and be replaced by more liberty oriented folks. Still, the GOP will probably be a lesser opposition party for a while, and we are going to see the USSC get ganked. But, eventually, there will be a market for those who have sense politically.

You think you are that, eh? Ok, ok, Bryan, I won't say it.