Rand Paul to Obama: "Prioritize" Passage of Trans-Pacific Partnership

[Deborah K]

http://www.hightowerlowdown.org/node/3402#.VGJ5qYUrDCc

I wish this article was sourced.

 

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Ban on “Buy American”

All firms operating in any TPP signatory country would get equal access to U.S.
procurement contracts — rather than us recycling our tax dollars here to create American jobs.

http://www.citizen.org/documents/tpp-corporate-power-tool-flyer-2013.pdf

 

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[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]The Trans-Pacific Partnership and Public Health
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[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]The TPP would provide large pharmaceutical firms with new rights and powers to increase medicine prices and limit consumers' access to cheaper generic drugs. This would include extensions of monopoly drug patents that would allow drug companies to raise prices for more medicines and even allow monopoly rights over surgical procedures. For people in the developing countries involved in TPP, these rules could be deadly - denying consumers access to HIV-AIDS, tuberculosis and cancer drugs.
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[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]The TPP would establish new rules that could undermine government programs in developed countries. The TPP would control the cost of medicines by employing drug formularies. These are lists of proven medicines that the government selects for use by government health care systems. Lower prices are negotiated for bulk purchase of such drugs and new medicines that are under monopoly patents are not approved if less expensive generic drugs are equally effective. Drug firms would be empowered to challenge these decisions and pricing standards. In the United States, these rules threaten provisions included in Medicare, Medicaid and veterans' health programs to make medicines more affordable for seniors, military families and the poor.
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[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]TPP would empower foreign pharmaceutical corporations to directly attack our domestic patent and drug-pricing laws in foreign tribunals. Already under NAFTA, which does not contain the new rules proposed for TPP, drug firm Eli Lilly has launched such a case against Canada, demanding $100 million for the government's enforcement of its own patent standards.
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[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]The TPP would also empower foreign corporations to directly challenge domestic toxics, zoning, cigarette and alcohol and other public health and environmental policies to demand taxpayer compensation for any such policies that undermine their expected future profits. Often initiatives to improve such laws are chilled by the mere filing of such an "investor-state" case. In other instances, countries eliminate the attacked policies. For instance Canada lifted a ban on a gasoline additive already banned in the U.S. as a suspected carcinogen after an investor attack by Ethyl Corporation under NAFTA. It also paid the firm $13 million and published a formal statement that the chemical was not hazardous.
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http://www.exposethetpp.org/TPPImpacts_Public-Health.html

 

[Deborah K]

That works! Thank you! +rep

 

[Brett85]

Ron Paul has spoken out against this agreement. Do you trust Ron or Rand more?

Rand Paul spoke out against this agreement in 2013. Do you trust Rand or Rand more?

Rand was never opposed to the free trade agreement itself, just the fast track authority. As far as I know, he still opposes the fast track authority.

 

[Brett85]

Is there any one issue that Rand could lose you on? If Rand said "I fully support a woman's right to choose and will never try to undermine Roe v. Wade" would you still support him? Oh I know you'd call his office, but would you still support him? Say if Rand said "While I support the 2nd amendment, we have to stop these mass shootings. Therefore I support mandatory GPS tracking for all newly manufactured guns." Would you still support him then? I get that this issue isn't as important to you as others. But if there isn't some issue that you're not willing to compromise on then you need to re-examine yourself.

I see what you mean. Yeah, there is certainly one issue that Rand could lose me on. I just don't understand how trade policy could be an issue that would make Rand lose support from libertarians. Many of the libertarians on this forum couldn't support anyone from the Cato Institute or Reason because of their support for these free trade agreements.

 

[presence]

..

I Saw the Secret Trade Deal…


For No Real Reason.
You spoke, they listened.

Last month, 10,000 of us submitted comments to the United States Trade Representative (USTR), in which we objected to new so-called free trade agreements. We asked that the government not sell out our democracy to corporate interests.

Because of this pressure, the USTR finally let a member of Congress – little ole me, Alan Grayson – actually see the text of the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP). The TPP is a large, secret trade agreement that is being negotiated with many countries in East Asia and South America.

The TPP is nicknamed “NAFTA on steroids.” Now that I’ve read it, I can see why. I can’t tell you what’s in the agreement, because the U.S. Trade Representative calls it classified. But I can tell you two things about it.

1) There is no national security purpose in keeping this text secret.

2) This agreement hands the sovereignty of our country over to corporate interests.

3) What they can’t afford to tell the American public is that [the rest of this sentence is classified].

(Well, I did promise to tell you only two things about it.)

I will be fighting this agreement with everything I’ve got. And I know you’ll be there every step of the way.

For now, I’ve set up an e-mail address where you can ask me questions on this topic or other topics: [email protected]

I’ll pick a few and answer them by video.

True Blue Democrats. Get ready. We’re coming.

Courage,

Congressman Alan Grayson

http://alangraysonemails.tumblr.com/post/53325968066/i-saw-the-secret-trade-deal

 

[specsaregood]

I just don't understand how trade policy could be an issue that would make Rand lose support from libertarians.

you wouldn't think they would object on the grounds of national sovereignty at least since so many of them don't think nations should even exist and think they are illegitimate.

 

[Brett85]

you wouldn't think they would object on the grounds of national sovereignty at least since so many of them don't think nations should even exist and think they are illegitimate.

And many of them are in favor of having completely open borders.

 

[ClydeCoulter]

And many of them realize that to get from here to there, they have to walk through some pretty creepy places.

 

[timosman]

So, what is Rand position on TPP?

 

[LibertyEagle]

Did Rand vote for this?

 

[randomname]

So, what is Rand position on TPP?

he's always been vague about it, said he wanted to read it first.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Hasn't it been voted on at this point?

 

[devil21]

Hasn't it been voted on at this point?

No, the TPP itself has not been voted on. Right now is the public viewing 60 day period.

Obama said "now is the time to debate TPP". Of course, it's right when SHTF in Europe and Americans are being terrorized with ISIS boogeyman threats on every corner.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/oba...ched-theres-plenty-of-time-for-public-debate/

 

[CPUd]

Rand said it is around 5,000 pages, he and his staff have gone through a few hundred pages. His default position is that he won't vote for it until he at least goes through the whole thing.

 

[LibertyEagle]

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[GunnyFreedom]

bump

As usual, you are just seeing what you want to see. This call to move the TPP was before it was even drafted. The moment he looked at it, he rejected it entirely. That is called exhibiting a rational role in politics. But then I understand you are not a big fan of reason in politics.

 

[erowe1]

bump

What was the purpose of this bump?

 

[GunnyFreedom]

What was the purpose of this bump?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...i-Trump-Rant&p=6254177&viewfull=1#post6254177