Rand Paul on The Glenn Beck Program 1/25/13 (video added)

[cajuncocoa]

If you are honest, you will admit that there has been quite a bit of bashing of any and all who are not libertarians, on this site. Not once, have I heard a conservative claim that this site was only for conservatives, but I have often heard libertarians erroneously claim it for themselves. You yourself have claimed that Rand is not libertarian enough. In fact you have claimed that he is not a libertarian AT ALL, like being pure libertarian is the end all to be all. Sorry, I don't agree that it's ok for adults to have sex with underage children. Sue me.

I'm frankly sick and tired of the paleocon bashing. If you want to continue drawing a line between us, I damn sure will play. Or, we could go back to trying to focus on those things we agree on and moving forward. Your choice.

I'm sick of the libertarian bashing, so I guess that makes us even.

What would probably go a long way to bringing the two camps together would be to find our common ground on issues rather than candidates. Perhaps then we could stop making excuses when these candidates do things that none of us would accept if it was Rubio or Obama doing them.

 

[cajuncocoa]

Great, it sounds like you've made your decision then. Will you now find a more worthy sub-forum and stop obsessing over Rand?

Fine. I thought this was one of the threads in Hot Topics. I didn't want to come into the Rand sub-forum.

 

[Pisces]

Except that I'd like Rand to become more of a paleocon. Pat Buchanan is far more non interventionist in his foreign policy views than Rand is.

Buchanan was pretty interventionist during the Cold War. It was only after the fall of the Soviet Union that he became a non-interventionist. I would classify him as more of an anti-globalist than a non-interventionist of the LRC/Antiwar.com school.

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

Great, it sounds like you've made your decision then. Will you now find a more worthy sub-forum and stop obsessing over Rand?

I recommend the Daily Kucinich with the rest of the Rand haters.

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

Buchanan was pretty interventionist during the Cold War. It was only after the fall of the Soviet Union that he became a non-interventionist. I would classify him as more of an anti-globalist than a non-interventionist of the LRC/Antiwar.com school.

Pro-Vietnam too.

 

[helmuth_hubener]

Rand has a lot of libertarian in him. I think it's a good thing that he doesn't embrace some parts of "libertarianism", if Ruwart is any measure of what libertarianism is.

Since you spend a lot of time on The Ron Paul Forums, and seem to like Ron Paul, perhaps it would be worthwhile for you to figure out on your own what libertarianism (Ron Paul's political philosophy) is. Seriously, don't take it as an insult or anything. I sincerely think it might interest you if you gave it a chance. It might be a good fit.

Have you checked any of these out? Consider it!

Liberty Defined (Or download now)
For a New Liberty (Or download now)
The Law
Libertarianism in One Lesson (Or download now)

Here's all the books Ron Paul recommends in The Revolution: A Manifesto, End The Fed, and Liberty Defined:
http://web.archive.org/web/20111019230655/http://www.checkoutronpaul.com/reading-list-a-d.html
I think you, coming from a conservative perspective, might especially enjoy the Higgs books.

 

[Thane Eichenauer]

I hope that everyone keeps an eye on Rand Paul as well as Glenn Beck. I don't see how it is that people can claim to know what Glenn Beck's motivations are. I don't begrudge anybody who is skeptical of Mr. Beck but I judge him on what he does today not why I think he does what he does.

 

[helmuth_hubener]

It might be a good fit.

By the way, I don't mean a good fit as in becoming a convert to libertarianism (though you may). I just mean it may be a good fit for your interests, for studying and looking into. You may find learning about it fascinating and worthwhile. This is a recommendation in the spirit of, if I were a frequenter of a do-it-yourself forum and posted a lot on electronics-related topics, someone might productively suggest that I would enjoy and benefit from taking a class to learn how to solder. Liberty is clearly something you have an above-average level of interest in. There are a lot of interesting ideas that have been put out, and are still being put out, by great thinkers on liberty. The books I mention above are a small introduction and sampling to get you started.

 

[Confederate]

Except that I'd like Rand to become more of a paleocon. Pat Buchanan is far more non interventionist in his foreign policy views than Rand is.

+rep.