Rand Paul on The Glenn Beck Program 1/25/13 (video added)

[cajuncocoa]

always hatin

So now it's "hatin" if I don't support Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin or put Israel first?

 

[anaconda]

Wait for the Beck-stab Rand.

Beck plus a hundred other media folks.

 

[itshappening]

Thank you jct for updating the thread.

Beck is a libertarian when it suits him, we all know that.

But it's interesting how these once hostile hosts like Rand so much. As I said it's down to repetence because they all hated Ron due to his confrontational style and the way he pointed out their hypocrisy especially on the Iraq war. They vented their collective anger at Ron because they would never admit they're wrong on anything but deep down they knew Ron Paul was right on issues like limited government and that's why they're so nice and accepting of Rand. It also helps that Rand is more of a team player and gets stuck into the enemy Democrats like nobody else.

That's why Hannity, Ingram, Levin etc are nice to him.

Interestingly O'Reilly and Limbaugh who are the worst statist neo-fascists in America would like their audience to think he doesn't exist. They will not repent.

 

[cajuncocoa]

Thank you jct for updating the thread.

Beck is a libertarian when it suits him, we all know that.

But it's interesting how these once hostile hosts like Rand so much. As I said it's down to repetence because they all hated Ron due to his confrontational style and the way he pointed out their hypocrisy especially on the Iraq war. They vented their collective anger at Ron because they would never admit they're wrong on anything but deep down they knew Ron Paul was right on issues like limited government and that's why they're so nice and accepting of Rand. It also helps that Rand is more of a team player and gets stuck into the enemy Democrats like nobody else.

That's why Hannity, Ingram, Levin etc are nice to him.

Interestingly O'Reilly and Limbaugh who are the worst statist neo-fascists in America would like their audience to think he doesn't exist. They will not repent.

FFS, itshappening. Please read this and get it once and for all....no matter what Glenn Beck SAYS, he is NOT a libertarian! Not now, not ever, not when it "suits him" and not when it doesn't.

Aren't all of you Rand supporters constantly saying "don't pay attention to what someone SAYS, pay attention to what they DO?" You're being hoodwinked by Glenn Beck and Mark Levin, and you're going to take the entire damned liberty movement down with you and with them. They're itching to co-opt the liberty movement, and those of you who are falling for this are going to give them what they want on a silver platter!!

You're only making my point for me when you point out how these "once hostile" (to Ron Paul) hosts are cozying up to Rand. Why do you think that is? It's because Rand is NOTHING like his father. But even so, those hosts that you're so giddy about are not going to support Rand when it gets closer to the primaries. Rand may not be as close to his father as I would like, but he's close enough that Beck and Levin will be throwing him (and the liberty movement) under the bus before you can spell I-O-W-A.

 

[dusman]

Thank you jct for updating the thread.

Beck is a libertarian when it suits him, we all know that.

But it's interesting how these once hostile hosts like Rand so much. As I said it's down to repetence because they all hated Ron due to his confrontational style and the way he pointed out their hypocrisy especially on the Iraq war. They vented their collective anger at Ron because they would never admit they're wrong on anything but deep down they knew Ron Paul was right on issues like limited government and that's why they're so nice and accepting of Rand. It also helps that Rand is more of a team player and gets stuck into the enemy Democrats like nobody else.

That's why Hannity, Ingram, Levin etc are nice to him.

Interestingly O'Reilly and Limbaugh who are the worst statist neo-fascists in America would like their audience to think he doesn't exist. They will not repent.

Ironically, Limbaugh just today was saying Rand was the only one who was willing to oppose some new legislation that is being passed. Not sure about the context of the subject, but it was interesting to hear Limbaugh praise Rand.

 

[Rudeman]

Beck, Levin and others aren't our friends but they are opening Rand to create a larger base, the more they praise him as the only one standing up to the left hopefully that gets engrained into the audience come election time. Whether they turn on Rand we'll wait and see, but we should know better than to put trust in them.

I honestly don't remember if Ron was ever this well liked (fake or not), it was always the you're great on economics but suck on everything else sort of thing.

 

[LibertyEagle]

There's so much hate directed at true conservatives on here.

(i'm joking by the way)

I agree and I am not joking.

 

[LibertyEagle]

FFS, itshappening. Please read this and get it once and for all....no matter what Glenn Beck SAYS, he is NOT a libertarian! Not now, not ever, not when it "suits him" and not when it doesn't.

Aren't all of you Rand supporters constantly saying "don't pay attention to what someone SAYS, pay attention to what they DO?" You're being hoodwinked by Glenn Beck and Mark Levin, and you're going to take the entire damned liberty movement down with you and with them. They're itching to co-opt the liberty movement, and those of you who are falling for this are going to give them what they want on a silver platter!!

You're only making my point for me when you point out how these "once hostile" (to Ron Paul) hosts are cozying up to Rand. Why do you think that is? It's because Rand is NOTHING like his father. But even so, those hosts that you're so giddy about are not going to support Rand when it gets closer to the primaries. Rand may not be as close to his father as I would like, but he's close enough that Beck and Levin will be throwing him (and the liberty movement) under the bus before you can spell I-O-W-A.

That is complete crap and you damn well know it. They are quite a lot alike. Not in everything, no, but neither are many of US.

I agree with you about the Beck, and the others though. I don't trust them farther than I can spit, but I damn well will use them.

LOL. That's probably because Rand Paul is no libertarian, and neither is Glenn Beck.

Rand has a lot of libertarian in him. I think it's a good thing that he doesn't embrace some parts of "libertarianism", if Ruwart is any measure of what libertarianism is.

 

[cajuncocoa]

I agree and I am not joking.

Yep, play the victim and pretend there isn't just as much hate directed at libertarians on this site ("Losertarians" ring any bells?) So I guess the two camps don't like each other, but let's not pretend that goes only one way.

 

[cajuncocoa]

That is complete crap and you damn well know it.

um, no, I don't know it...but I know you believe it's true.

 

[Rudeman]

How can Rand be nothing like his father but also be close enough to his father for them to turn on him? Seems like a contradiction. Rand is like his father, he just isn't a carbon copy. He states a lot of the same policies but phrases it in a more palatable way for Conservatives/Republicans but there are certainly some differences.

 

[itshappening]

FFS, itshappening. Please read this and get it once and for all....no matter what Glenn Beck SAYS, he is NOT a libertarian! Not now, not ever, not when it "suits him" and not when it doesn't.

Aren't all of you Rand supporters constantly saying "don't pay attention to what someone SAYS, pay attention to what they DO?" You're being hoodwinked by Glenn Beck and Mark Levin, and you're going to take the entire damned liberty movement down with you and with them. They're itching to co-opt the liberty movement, and those of you who are falling for this are going to give them what they want on a silver platter!!

You're only making my point for me when you point out how these "once hostile" (to Ron Paul) hosts are cozying up to Rand. Why do you think that is? It's because Rand is NOTHING like his father. But even so, those hosts that you're so giddy about are not going to support Rand when it gets closer to the primaries. Rand may not be as close to his father as I would like, but he's close enough that Beck and Levin will be throwing him (and the liberty movement) under the bus before you can spell I-O-W-A.

How do you know Rand's not hoodwinking them? They're making him one of the most famous conservative voices in America and giving him an awesome platform.

I would kiss their butt to be president too, wouldn't you? the president makes 440k/year, lives in the White House and flies all over the world on Air Force One.

 

[SpreadOfLiberty]

Beck isn't a libertarian but has some libertarian positions.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Yep, play the victim and pretend there isn't just as much hate directed at libertarians on this site ("Losertarians" ring any bells?) So I guess the two camps don't like each other, but let's not pretend that goes only one way.

If you are honest, you will admit that there has been quite a bit of bashing of any and all who are not libertarians, on this site. Not once, have I heard a conservative claim that this site was only for conservatives, but I have often heard libertarians erroneously claim it for themselves. You yourself have claimed that Rand is not libertarian enough. In fact you have claimed that he is not a libertarian AT ALL, like being pure libertarian is the end all to be all. Sorry, I don't agree that it's ok for adults to have sex with underage children. Sue me.

I'm frankly sick and tired of the paleocon bashing. If you want to continue drawing a line between us, I damn sure will play. Or, we could go back to trying to focus on those things we agree on and moving forward. Your choice.

 

[itshappening]

Ironically, Limbaugh just today was saying Rand was the only one who was willing to oppose some new legislation that is being passed. Not sure about the context of the subject, but it was interesting to hear Limbaugh praise Rand.

that is interesting i'd like to hear that. He has never mention Ron/Rand much before.

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

Beck, Levin and others aren't our friends but they are opening Rand to create a larger base, the more they praise him as the only one standing up to the left hopefully that gets engrained into the audience come election time. Whether they turn on Rand we'll wait and see, but we should know better than to put trust in them.

I honestly don't remember if Ron was ever this well liked (fake or not), it was always the you're great on economics but suck on everything else sort of thing.

That's essential my point of view. If Beck, Levin, etc want to be our useful idiots and increase the name recognition of our guy, have at it.

 

[cajuncocoa]

How do you know Rand's not hoodwinking them?

That's just it: we don't. That's the problem with not playing honestly.

I would kiss their butt to be president too, wouldn't you? the president makes 440k/year, lives in the White House and flies all over the world on Air Force One.

No, I wouldn't. Principle is more important to me than money or power.

 

[itshappening]

That's just it: we don't. That's the problem with not playing honestly.
No, I wouldn't. Principle is more important to me than money or power.

Don't give me that nonesene Cajun.

If I was Rand Paul and thought I had a legitimate shot at the presidency I would kiss as much butt as possible.

Or I could sit alone in the U.S Senate and cast my nay vote and be on the end of 98-1 votes and protest loudly, put out press releases and never kiss butt or be cordial and be there for 24 years and accomplish what? what is the point of it all? So I can say I never kissed butt and never had any ambition for higher office?

 

[Brett85]

I'm frankly sick and tired of the paleocon bashing. If you want to continue drawing a line between us, I damn sure will play. Or, we could go back to trying to focus on those things we agree on and moving forward. Your choice.

Except that I'd like Rand to become more of a paleocon. Pat Buchanan is far more non interventionist in his foreign policy views than Rand is.

 

[dinosaur]

That's just it: we don't. That's the problem with not playing honestly.
No, I wouldn't. Principle is more important to me than money or power.

Great, it sounds like you've made your decision then. Will you now find a more worthy sub-forum and stop obsessing over Rand?