Rand Paul: ‘Nothing’ That Donald Trump Supports Is ‘What the Tea Party Was About’

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Rand Paul: ‘Nothing’ That Donald Trump Supports Is ‘What the Tea Party Was About’

Rand Paul: ‘Nothing’ That Donald Trump Supports Is ‘What the Tea Party Was About’

Erica Ritz
Sep. 9, 2015 12:23pm




Republican presidential candidate Rand Paul said Wednesday that “nothing” that rival Donald Trump is for “is what the Tea Party was about.”

Speaking to Glenn Beck, the Kentucky senator listed the bank bailouts, the stimulus, higher taxes, Obamacare and taking private property through eminent domain as issues Trump has supported that are at odds with the principles of the Tea Party.

“I think to me the most offensive of the positions that he’s taken isn’t that he was for Obamacare before he was against it, or that he’s for higher taxes or the government stimulus,” Paul said. “It probably is this notion of private property. Most of his business deals have been predicated upon asking government to take land from other people.”

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Beck’s entire interview with Paul will air Monday at 5 p.m. on The Glenn Beck Program on TheBlaze TV.


http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...ump-supports-is-what-the-tea-party-was-about/
 
I would like to think logic and reason will matter, but after a conversation with a co-worker about all the b.s. Trump represents, (his bankruptcies, his Non-conservative positions etc.) his answer was still.

"It doesn't matter....People are sick of it". "Maybe he'll go bankrupt Iran".

It seems today's average GOP voter likes someone who is a cult of personality and beats up on the media and the left. Ideas and actual philosophy is boring.
 
I would like to think logic and reason will matter, but after a conversation with a co-worker about all the b.s. Trump represents, (his bankruptcies, his Non-conservative positions etc.) his answer was still.

"It doesn't matter....People are sick of it". "Maybe he'll go bankrupt Iran".

It seems today's average GOP voter likes someone who is a cult of personality and beats up on the media and the left. Ideas and actual philosophy is boring.

I think Rand needs to talk more about doing anti-establishment stuff like railing against NSA, the federal reserve, NDAA, eminent domain because trump is for all of those. Make him look like the insider
 
I don't mind him stating his differences with Trump, however, going after Trump isn't helping right now. For example, state "Trump wants to raise taxes, I disagree.. I actually want to cut taxes on ALL Americans. We are taxed to death as a nation and my tax plan will be the largest tax cut in our nations history."
 
Agree! It's time to be relevant with the Constitution in one hand and the Bill of Rights in the other!

But still have a message that speaks to them and their...level. Remember, Greg Brannon was all about the Constitution and Bill of Rights in North Carolina, but Tillis sits in the Senate right now.
 
Rand needs to make HIS case for why voters should support him and stop worrying about Trump.

I don't mind him stating his differences with Trump, however, going after Trump isn't helping right now. For example, state "Trump wants to raise taxes, I disagree.. I actually want to cut taxes on ALL Americans. We are taxed to death as a nation and my tax plan will be the largest tax cut in our nations history."

I both agree and disagree. If he can get laughs going after Trump, that's perfect, because people are really going to enjoy laughing at this clown as he falls. The bigger an arrogant blowhard they are, the more fun people have when he falls hard. So, if Rand can get laughs at his expense, that would be just what the doctor ordered. And the best way to help people see why Rand is the real anti-Establishment choice.

Won't be easy. But if he can do it, he can tap that sentiment. And he can tap it deeper, because he can tap more than the suckers for tough-talking blowhards. He can tap us, and millions more with brains.

That would be the stuff revolution is made of.
 
I get LE's point that Rand ought to be focusing on his own platform... but its almost like LE is reticent to state the obvious, Trump is antithetical to Liberty.
 
Immigration is the number one issue of this election cycle.

To say that deportations can't occur is simply laughable. Eisenhower deported the vast majority of illegals from Mexico and Central America with just a few airplanes and border agents.

Rand is right on taxes, foreign policy in the ME, and civil liberties. He is wrong about people illegally entering a sovereign nation without the possibility of deportations.

A wall is not out of the question. It should be created, and I think Rand is in complete agreement with building a wall. He doesn't want the government rounding people up and deporting them. I get that sentiment. But I also believe that if anyone enters a country illegally, deportation is the price they pay for breaking the law.

If we don't have a country with clearly defined borders and a cohesive culture, then we aren't really a country. We are just some failed state with no sense of unity.

Let's not forget that the immigration rules prior to 1965 forbid anyone from non-European countries entering the US in large numbers. We had quotas and only a small number of people were let in. Also remember that prior to the early 1990's, less than 1% of the country was from India or the Middle East. Now that population has grown to nearly 16% of the total population. Add to that the increasing number of Chinese, Koreans, Vietnamese, Africans, Eastern Europeans...we have become a country with no clearly defined culture or beliefs.

Bottom line is that the drastic change in immigration has resulted in higher crime rates, lower educational levels, and a lack of social cohesion. If we don't figure out what kind of country we want to be, we're going to go the way of Rome.
 
Immigration is the number one issue of this election cycle.

To say that deportations can't occur is simply laughable. Eisenhower deported the vast majority of illegals from Mexico and Central America with just a few airplanes and border agents.

Rand is right on taxes, foreign policy in the ME, and civil liberties. He is wrong about people illegally entering a sovereign nation without the possibility of deportations.

A wall is not out of the question. It should be created, and I think Rand is in complete agreement with building a wall. He doesn't want the government rounding people up and deporting them. I get that sentiment. But I also believe that if anyone enters a country illegally, deportation is the price they pay for breaking the law.

If we don't have a country with clearly defined borders and a cohesive culture, then we aren't really a country. We are just some failed state with no sense of unity.

Let's not forget that the immigration rules prior to 1965 forbid anyone from non-European countries entering the US in large numbers. We had quotas and only a small number of people were let in. Also remember that prior to the early 1990's, less than 1% of the country was from India or the Middle East. Now that population has grown to nearly 16% of the total population. Add to that the increasing number of Chinese, Koreans, Vietnamese, Africans, Eastern Europeans...we have become a country with no clearly defined culture or beliefs.

Bottom line is that the drastic change in immigration has resulted in higher crime rates, lower educational levels, and a lack of social cohesion. If we don't figure out what kind of country we want to be, we're going to go the way of Rome.

Deporting illegals presents a constitutional paradox. Law enforcement must have probable cause and a warrant in order to investigate an American citizen. You might argue that illegals do not have such benefits, as they are not citizens. Though you would be right in that assertion, the subject of the investigation is the legality of the person; since you have not proven that the person is illegal, you must assume that the person is a citizen, and must be granted all rights of citizenship contained therein.

What I'm trying to say is that mass deportation is unfeasible and would ignore probable cause, due process, and innocence until proven guilty. What we should be worried about right now is securing the border. Rand is not in favor of a wall; rather, he is in favor of a more practical and fiscally responsible solution, such as helicopter stations and increased security.
 
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I agree that there are no easy answers.

Assuming someone is illegal, when they are not, will in fact be an affront to their civil rights.

I don't like the fact that the Feds may be going through towns and rounding up individuals, shipping them out of the country.

However, I also don't like the idea of illegals breaking into the US, infringing upon US citizens' property rights.

Again, there are no easy answers.
 
It's really amazing how even many Ron Paul supporters have been completely fooled by Trump.
I guess LibertyEagle is going to be devastated to hear this.
I get LE's point that Rand ought to be focusing on his own platform... but its almost like LE is reticent to state the obvious, Trump is antithetical to Liberty.

:rolleyes:

This is getting really old, kiddies. Open your damn ears, ok? I AM VOTING FOR RAND!

I have said that the only GOOD candidate is Rand.

All I said is that I would prefer Trump over Bush, because I think the establishment setup is in. That doesn't mean I would prefer Trump over Rand, or that I think Trump would even be good.

I don't really give a rat's ass that you don't agree. We should be agreeing about Rand.
 
:rolleyes:

This is getting really old, kiddies. Open your damn ears, ok? I AM VOTING FOR RAND!

I have said that the only GOOD candidate is Rand.

All I said is that I would prefer Trump over Bush, because I think the establishment setup is in. That doesn't mean I would prefer Trump over Rand, or that I think Trump would even be good.

I don't really give a rat's ass that you don't agree. We should be agreeing about Rand.

Well, you sure seem to spend a lot of time on this forum defending Trump for someone who's supporting Rand.
 
Well, you sure seem to spend a lot of time on this forum defending Trump for someone who's supporting Rand.

What's funny is, the people bitching about people saying something about Trump on here that isn't dripping enough of venom to suit them, accounts for about 90% of the Trump posts on here. lol

Do you think I care what YOU think about what I post or don't post? Earth to little Brett. I don't. I have nothing to prove to you or anyone else.

EDIT: So, what have you done, or are you doing now, to help Rand? ANYTHING???
 
What's funny is, the people bitching about people saying something about Trump on here that isn't dripping enough of venom to suit them, accounts for about 90% of the Trump posts on here. lol

Do you think I care what YOU think about what I post or don't post? Earth to little Brett. I don't. I have nothing to prove to you or anyone else.

EDIT: So, what have you done, or are you doing now, to help Rand? ANYTHING???

Well, you cared enough to respond to my comment. If you don't care, then you should've just ignored my comment.
 
EDIT: So, what have you done, or are you doing now, to help Rand? ANYTHING???

I've donated money in all of the money bombs. I plan on making phone calls to voters in Iowa when it gets closer to the Iowa caucuses. I guess I'm not exactly sure what you think I'm supposed to do.
 
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