Rand Paul gets speaking slot at Republican National Convention

[sailingaway]

I remember Rand cramming it back down their throats. He was feisty and fought back against the smears, lies, and distortions.

that was a debate, I'm thinking of his reaction to smears.

And honestly, Gurley Martin won that debate

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

He HAD TO endorse the Republican nominee. HAD TO. I do not understand why some of you cannot get that.

I don't want him to foam all over Romney and co, either, and while I understand he has to find some positive things to say, I hope he also constructs his comments so as to put Romney's nuts in a vice.

If you think he is acting like Romney, Santorum, or Jeb Bush, then you aren't watching what he has been doing in the Senate. I cannot even believe you said that.

At this point, I really don't care that some here don't like him. But, must these people yammer on constantly about it?

I honestly think some people in this movement don't actually want to win. They've gotten so used to being the pinata of politics, they just fall back into that familiar role of being the odd man out.

**A lot of libertarian types are like this actually, its rather a peculiar psychological phenomenon.

 

[sailingaway]

I honestly think some people in this movement don't actually want to win. They've gotten so used to being the pinata of politics, they just fall back into that familiar role of being the odd man out.

you don't need to insult people, and I have yet to see an explanation I accept for the need to endorse BEFORE convention. I don't like it at all, to be frank. But it is one item in the hopper and we have discussed it to death.

 

[malkusm]

Well no VP offer for Rand, no one scheduled to speak ahead of time will be the VP. I guess this is all Rand gets for endorsing Romney. It certainly wasn't worth it.

He got his dad's Audit the Fed bill a standalone vote. He also got a lot of intangibles, but I won't waste your time reciting them.

 

[sailingaway]

He got his dad's Audit the Fed bill a standalone vote. He also got a lot of intangibles, but I won't waste your time reciting them.

that is an assumption. I think they were tempting Ron off the trail, personally.

 

[LibertyEagle]

you don't need to insult people, and I have yet to see an explanation I accept for the need to endorse BEFORE convention. I don't like it at all, to be frank. But it is one item in the hopper and we have discussed it to death.

Ya think???????

 

[LibertyEagle]

that is an assumption. I think they were tempting Ron off the trail, personally.

Seriously?

Ron Paul lost long ago. It's hard. It's tough. But, it is nonetheless true.

 

[AuH20]

Seriously?

Ron Paul lost long ago. It's hard. It's tough. But, it is nonetheless true.

Correct. Everyone knew Ron Paul couldn't win in 2012. Too much baggage and media hostility. But he did almost singlehandedly carry the torch of liberty for a long time without ever dropping it. And for that he will never be forgotten.

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

you don't need to insult people, and I have yet to see an explanation I accept for the need to endorse BEFORE convention. I don't like it at all, to be frank. But it is one item in the hopper and we have discussed it to death.

How is that an insult? I've seen the same phenomenon in sports psychology, athletes train and compete fully wanting to win until victory is within their grasp and then they fold like laundry.

 

[sailingaway]

Seriously?

Ron Paul lost long ago. It's hard. It's tough. But, it is nonetheless true.

what are you talking about? I'm not saying he was going to win and it is a straw argument to say that winning the GOP nomination was all the campaign was about. He was drawing huge crowds and exciting a lot of political newcomers, and winning state conventions at that point, and Romney, to great glee of the Dem press, was not -- or in the case of conventions, was not ALWAYS doing so despite media meme it was all over.

 

[RickyJ]

How is that an insult? I've seen the same phenomenon in sports psychology, athletes train and compete fully wanting to win until victory is within their grasp and then they fold like laundry.

Kind of like Rand Paul endorsing Romney.

 

[jolynna]

No.

Me either.

I gave UP being a regular GOP and converted to Ron Paul's beliefs in the sanctity of ALL life and freedom.

I don't care IF Ron Paul HAS changed his mind and no longer adheres to what he once believed. Or if Ron now thinks that for the sake of his son, he (and also his supporters) can overlook that by Rand giving Romney his endorsement, Rand wins votes for Romney, DESPITE WHAT ROMNEY IS.

Would everybody here feel the same way if Rand endorsed Obama if Obama had been the nominee?

Should Rand have endorsed Santorum IF Santorum was the nominee???? Unless you can say YES to BOTH OF THOSE QUESTIONS...there is no excuse for what Rand did.

When I BECAME a Ron Paul supporter, I THOUGHT I WAS SUPPOSED TO CONVERT PEOPLE OVER to Ron Paul's principles...NOT go back to BEING THE NEOCON I USED TO BE. Or worse being a part of it by NOT SCREAMING and PROTESTING that we ARE EXTERMINATING OTHER HUMANS...just like HITLER DID. For no reason other than selfish gain.

When you KNOW BETTER, you are supposed to DO BETTER.

The no unjust war and no MORE police state (NDAA, CISPA, Patriot Act) are WHY I converted. It is a it a BETRAYAL of our soldiers and the men who HAVE DIED fighting for our freedoms to LET Romney or Obama strip FREEDOMS AWAY and to EVEN APPLAUD Rand for endorsing Romney, the NDAA ENDORSER, CISPA LOVING, SPY CENTER OWNING, SPY CENTER EXPANDER, PATRIOT ACT LOVING, EXECUTIVE ORDER GIVING (while governor)& business partner of mass murderer Paul Singer AKA the Vulture--check out Vanity Fair and articles by BBC reporter Greg Palast.

I don't care whose son Rand is. Or how he voted in the past. IF Rand Paul can give Romney a nod of approval DESPITE what Romney is, then he does NOT SUPPORT FULLY LIBERTY or FREEDOM or the SANCTITY OF HUMAN LIFE. Period.


Not in my opinion.

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

Correct. Everyone knew Ron Paul couldn't win in 2012. Too much baggage and media hostility. But he did almost singlehandedly carry the torch of liberty for a long time without ever dropping it. And for that he will never be forgotten.

I concur with you sirs. Ron Paul did have a chance but it hinged upon making a big slash and winning Iowa. After we came in third the nomination was lost. I wish people would buck up and be proud of what we accomplished, we gave it a great try going for the hail mary pass of electing Ron Paul. The important part is that this game just started and we can continue to move the ball down the field by electing our other liberty candidates to the House and Senate.

 

[cajuncocoa]

He HAD TO endorse the Republican nominee. HAD TO. I do not understand why some of you cannot get that.

You can't have it both ways....either it was something he HAD TO do, or it's meaningless. It can't be both.

 

[cajuncocoa]

I honestly think some people in this movement don't actually want to win. They've gotten so used to being the pinata of politics, they just fall back into that familiar role of being the odd man out.

**A lot of libertarian types are like this actually, its rather a peculiar psychological phenomenon.

I don't want to win....just for the sake of winning. Heck, if that's all I wanted, I would just support Barack Obama and call it a day.

 

[RickyJ]

He HAD TO endorse the Republican nominee. HAD TO. I do not understand why some of you cannot get that.

Ron Paul didn't endorse the Republican nominee when he dropped out of the race in 2008.

Rand Paul didn't have to endorse anyone. I do not know why you don't seem to understand that.

 

[cajuncocoa]

Ron Paul didn't endorse the Republican nominee when he dropped out of the race in 2008.

Rand Paul didn't have to endorse anyone. I do not know why you don't seem to understand that.

Exactly....because Ron Paul has principles.

 

[1stAmendguy]

Correct. Everyone knew Ron Paul couldn't win in 2012. Too much baggage and media hostility. But he did almost singlehandedly carry the torch of liberty for a long time without ever dropping it. And for that he will never be forgotten.

Won CPAC two years in a row. Had all the momentum leading up to Ames and Iowa. Was the frontrunner. Despite the old media's best efforts to smear him, he was the real winner of Iowa caucus until the funny business happened.

 

[NIU Students for Liberty]

Ron Paul didn't endorse the Republican nominee when he dropped out of the race in 2008.

Rand Paul didn't have to endorse anyone. I do not know why you don't seem to understand that.

This. And spare me the "well that's why Ron Paul was a lone voice" argument. Individuals on both sides of the aisle we're unwilling to support Paul's views because they limited their power and overreach, not because he refused to endorse McCain, Bush, etc.

 

[PreDeadMan]

I don't like Rand Paul he's a pandering politician endorsing a person who is the ideological opposite of his father. Rand Paul is a fake. Folks, there will never be another Ron Paul in the political theater.As Lew Rockwell and others say there wont be another ron paul he's just so unique. I hope there's chaos at the RNC and the party gets ruined for these neocon mother fuckers. Of course I don't hope violence ensues that's never good I just hope their party gets CRASHED!!!! I'm going to un-register myself as a Republican the very thought of it makes me throw up in my mouth.