Rand Paul - Defense Spending Bill

[acptulsa]

I just think if Ron were still young and he was going about this term for his 3rd run at the nomination in a row, he'd be doing quite well with the old strategy of mass quantities of truth and honesty. That's the strategy Rand could have adopted. I think it would have worked this time.

I've never seen any sign of honesty catching on with the American electorate. And I've been watching wishfully for a very long time. All I ever see are proofs that this here was a very wise man:

'Shrewdness in public life all over the world is always honored, while honesty in public men is generally attributed to dumbness and is seldom rewarded.'--Will Rogers

 

[asurfaholic]

I just think if Ron were still young and he was going about this term for his 3rd run at the nomination in a row, he'd be doing quite well with the old strategy of mass quantities of truth and honesty. That's the strategy Rand could have adopted. I think it would have worked this time.

What is Rand being dishonest about?

 

[amartin315]

What is Rand being dishonest about?

I never said he was being dishonest. I said his strategy wasn't to use "mass quantities of truth and honesty"

 

[asurfaholic]

I never said he was being dishonest. I said his strategy wasn't to use "mass quantities of truth and honesty"

Quit being a freaking nut. The implication of what you are saying is that there is an absence of truth and honesty in his campaign. Which means you feel he is being dishonest. I'd like to know what you think he's being dishonest about.

 

[amartin315]

Quit being a freaking nut. The implication of what you are saying is that there is an absence of truth and honesty in his campaign. Which means you feel he is being dishonest. I'd like to know what you think he's being dishonest about.

He's not being dishonest. He's just not telling the whole story, and he's not saying it loud and proud and often enough in some areas.

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

Mike Lee, Ernst, and other conservatives (real or fake) voted no on Rubio's plan. I am actually in shock that Cruz voted for this horrible spending increase. I am not a cruz fan, but I was genuinely surprised that he would go on record for this. This has to be used in debates. Having Cruz on record for this would have to resonate with those who are concerned about the debt that are taking a look at him. Cruz was the only one on the stage that could try to take the anti-debt stance with Paul and he lost that. Does anyone have an idea of why he wouldn't have voted yes for Paul's plan too due to it being the same with other cuts included? This is crazy that Paul got Cruz to reveal himself this early and so soon after he announced.

Cruz will use the angle of "trying to keep America safe" and the clueless primary voters will eat it up.

 

[fr33]

my theory is that peace is paramount and prosperity follows. hence the responses of those of us that are so disappointed that Rand will play these games or take these positions that tend to run contrary (or at least not in a straight line) to peace.

Did you support Ron Paul? If so, then.... AUMF. What say you?

 

[fr33]

I don't give Ron a pass for his errors, and instead of using them as an excuse for Rand to take greater liberties with... well, liberty, Ron's errors should be learned from and eliminated. Not expanded upon and used for an excuse for every deviance from the liberty position.

That sounds like you are wanting to Rand to get 4% of the republican primary vote rather than Ron's 10%. I mean, if that's what you want, fine. I'm just pointing out what's what here. There are plenty of "paulbots" here that aren't even thinking it through as well as you are. They didn't think it through when Ron was running. They just went on auto-defend for Ron on these things but will throw his son under the bus every chance they get.