Rand Paul Campaign Manager Signs Up With Marco Rubio

People dinged Ron for being too family oriented, Rand for having professionals. What do you guys want? It's tough. Rand had family associates and new people brought in. It was a professional campaign. Results do not always reflect the quality of the campaign, especially in this climate.

I would want competent professionals who believe in liberty. Among the millions of liberty supporters, is there no one who fits the bill?
 
Chip is a great guy, he was dedicated to Rand more than almost anyone else.
 
I would want competent professionals who believe in liberty. Among the millions of liberty supporters, is there no one who fits the bill?

Believing in liberty isn't a job qualification. Regardless of beliefs, people need to work. You're asking this guy to be unemployed or spend time searching for jobs in this competitive job market when he has an opening right here. Working for the campaign doesn't suddenly mean he's giving up what he believes- it means he needs to eat and pay bills. You all want perfection, but you're not going to get it when campaign employees still need to work.
 
I would want competent professionals who believe in liberty. Among the millions of liberty supporters, is there no one who fits the bill?

It depends on what you mean by competent or liberty. I would say Grover Norquist and Matt Kibbe would be the only two that come to mind. There aren't that many libertarians to begin with let alone ones that are active in politics. I would guess pulling someone from Freedomworks or National Right to Work is the best bet.
 
No, I will not given them a break. If you go and run a campaign for a totalitarian, you are a despicable person without principles.

That's a pretty pathetic outlook. You expect people with libertarians to only work with and associate with those who share their beliefs? If that's the case, why was Rand Paul trying to expand beyond the GOP base instead of just sticking to his crowd? You don't get hired based on just your beliefs. MSNBC and FOX certainly don't screen applicants for their political beliefs- that I know from experience.
 


Chip Englander @ChipEnglander

Me too RT @JorgeLuisJalil @ChipEnglander I supported Rand, but now I believe Marco is the best option!
 
Students For Rand went with Rubio too? Hold on, honest mistake...



Chip Englander @ChipEnglander

Thanks! RT @SFR_Florida Welcome to #TeamMarco @ChipEnglander!
 
You can have ideological campaign staff or you can have competent campaign staff; rarely do they coincide.

Rand had competent staff, professionals, and now they're moving onto their next job.

Nothing wrong with that.
 
No, I will not given them a break. If you go and run a campaign for a totalitarian, you are a despicable person without principles.

So just to make sure, you never do any business with non-libertarians and you've certainly never worked for any non-libertarians, correct? Because every dollar you spend is a vote and every hour you give to an employer who is not a libertarian just furthers their cause, right?
 
If there aren't any libertarian managers who have won a presidential campaign, maybe someone could be found who has elected a libertarian governor, or won a US House or Senate seat.
 
Rand had a competent campaign staff? Fooled me. These professionals stole millions from us for Rand to run a dud campaign that was doomed from the start.
 
Rand had a competent campaign staff? Fooled me. These professionals stole millions from us for Rand to run a dud campaign that was doomed from the start.

LOL it seems all the campaign "post mortems" end up like this after a week or so. There are some from 2012 that have been going almost 4 years now.
 
I'm sorry, but after 10 years of being shafted by the establishment neocons, I have little room in my heart and mind for anyone who willingly works to help them. As far as I'm concerned, both Vince Harris and Chip Englander are traitors. Like the saying goes: you're either with or you're against us. They've made their choice.
 
Not really, but it certainly seems strange that he joined a campaign that's imploding.


Let's see, here. Rand came in well below the rube in IA. Now the rube wants to hire him for his own campaign, after the showing he produced for Rand in IA? THAT seems strange. This guy wasn't also responsible for turning out all those students for Rand that ended up voting for the rube, was he? I'm very inclined to agree with Dianne. Perhaps he's being rewarded for a job well done in IA, after all.
 
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