Rand might be at the kids table for the next debate

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Just caught a bit of the Rachel Maddow show. She mentioned that CNN will be tracking the polls until this Sunday but as of right now, she said that Rand will be at the kids table if his polling numbers don't rise.
 
Just caught a bit of the Rachel Maddow show. She mentioned that CNN will be tracking the polls until this Sunday but as of right now, she said that Rand will be at the kids table if his polling numbers don't rise.

Rachel Maddow is an abomination come to life, kindly refrain from watching him/her/it if you wish to maintain your sanity.
 
She is right. However, if CNN accepts the CBS/YouGov Poll (apparently its not an all online poll since it used many phone participants) this puts Rand in a spot where he he is on the verge of making it in NH.
 
Who hasn't made it to their primetime besides maybe Huck and Rand and Graham? Are Huck and Graham even running still? Does he get the kiddies table by himself or is it going to be 7 primetime 3 kiddy table?? I think he can still win the argument especially because CNN gamed their last poll and they were the ones who set the fucking debate rules. They also just got called out for colluding tweets with the Clinton's against him during the Benghazi hearing.
 
How many candidates other than Rand would qualify for the smaller debate?

To qualify for the earlier debate, candidates must reach at least 1% in four separate national, Iowa or New Hampshire polls that are recognized by CNN.

I thought it was 1% in any qualifying polls, but it's 4. That would be Santorum, Huck and Graham if they count the CBS/YouGov
 
I thought it was 1% in any qualifying polls, but it's 4. That would be Santorum, Huck and Graham if they count the CBS/YouGov

Not a bad crowd to run up against! Although I wish Huck was not in there and it was just Rand, Santorum and Graham. Or, just Rand and Graham :) :) epic debate
 
Not a bad crowd to run up against! Although I wish Huck was not in there and it was just Rand, Santorum and Graham. Or, just Rand and Graham :) :) epic debate

Oh yeah, well at least we know fireworks would fly it that's what it ends up being and Rand is at the undercard debate.

CPUd, having read the criteria.. I was a bit confused on the 4 poll @ 1% rule. Is it any four polls across all national, IA, and NH? Or is it four 1% polls in national, four 1% polls in IA, or four 1% polls in NH?
 
You can NOT keep the National CPAC winner from the main debates .. it would be a slap in the face to the GOP Nationally .. their polls are meaningless to the CPAC winner ..

If they do that, the GOP will avoid any future debates they may have like the plague ..
 
Oh yeah, well at least we know fireworks would fly it that's what it ends up being and Rand is at the undercard debate.

CPUd, having read the criteria.. I was a bit confused on the 4 poll @ 1% rule. Is it any four polls across all national, IA, and NH? Or is it four 1% polls in national, four 1% polls in IA, or four 1% polls in NH?

It is any combination of 4 polls at 1%.
 
Oh well. It's not like being in the main debates has helped Rand so far. Maybe he'll get some publicity by having a heated debate with Graham and Santorum over foreign policy.
 
Oh well. It's not like being in the main debates has helped Rand so far. Maybe he'll get some publicity by having a heated debate with Graham and Santorum over foreign policy.

It's not over yet, but yeah, as long as he can still make the two January debates, he should be good. It's not like they really talk about him when they cover the debate anyway. The polls should be more accurate in January.
 
If Rand is at the kids table he'll need to be aggressive because Lindsey has pretty much been waiting for the moment to confront him. It could be good for Rand to have a foil like Graham. Look at how Christie shot out of the last debate like a cannon.
 
I guess at the very least it should give us some fireworks and something to be proud of going into the den of neoconservatives and bible thumpers, this is about winning the narrative more than winning the presidency. Can't let their talking points go unchallenged.
 
... I was a bit confused on the 4 poll @ 1% rule. Is it any four polls across all national, IA, and NH? Or is it four 1% polls in national, four 1% polls in IA, or four 1% polls in NH?

It is any combination of 4 polls at 1%.

If CPU is correct, then Pataki also makes it into the undercard debate. The undercard would have Graham, Pataki, Huck and Santorum; plus Rand if latter doesn't earn place at main debate.

Not sure if CPU's interpretation of the ambiguously-written rule is correct, though.
 
Well if Rand is in the smaller debate it might be better for him in order to get attention. It's like is it better to be a backup player on a championship caliber team or a starter on a mediocre team? Or is it best to get sent down to Triple A work on a new pitch before getting called back up to the show rather than ride with the bench?
 
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I think the undercard debate would actually substantially help rand. Rand struggles the most with the older voters, and they are the ones most likely to watch the undercard debate. I know this for a fact because my grandfather goes to bed at 8pm. Main debates are always on later than that.

Hopefully rand will play his cards right, identify his target audience, and say things old people want to hear while they are watching the undercard debate.
 
This is already decided imo. Faux news has been showing a Comercial
for a couple weeks for the kiddie debate where they flash the faces of
those involved and Rand is one of those faces.
 
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