Rand-hater Santorum heavily considering 2016 presidential run

id bet santorum will win georgia due to the christian vote. even after i showed my friends and family santorums lies, they still voted for him. rand better hit the jesus vote hard.
 
Including the LP in a poll is irrelevant

You either were not paying attention to the post I was replying to so as to understand the point I was making, or you're just wrong.

Mourdock was one of the biggest let downs of 2012 because he threw away a sure fire Senate seat and that's why we're still talking about him and mad at him.

I'm not mad at him. I didn't even support him in the first place. (Well, I did in the primary, because I was voting for RP there anyway and I wanted Lugar to lose).
 
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I think mourdock's quip cost gentleman mitt about 5% of the vote in the fall general election
when he looked and sounded less educated than general dwight david eisenhower did in 1952!
the voters want people to have passed biology class rather than to have flunked it rather badly.

I think you're talking about Akin.
 
lets split the fickle 5% mister mitt romney might have had
between the way the mass media slammed akin of MO
and the way the same mass media slammed into mourdock!!!
 
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How come social conservatives always demand Republican politicians take extreme positions on abortion, then expect them campaign on the economy and national security in the general election? If no-abortion-for-rape-victims position is such a winner, why not run on it?

It's not a "winner." It's just the correct position.
 
Santorum is a guy who said that voting for Obama would be better than Romney...if he made that comment about Mitt, could you imagine what he'd say about Rand? He'd endorse HRC and help out in blue collar regions of the country...
Considering what the GOP did to the Ron Paul movement... I agree with Rick Santorum...

Although, shooting myself in the head seems like a better prospect than either of those, as does voting for Hitler...


(Hitler can't do any more damage, he's dead.)
 
It's not a "winner." It's just the correct position.

It is, but you can also get the correct opinion with four words, none of which begin with the letter A at all.

I'm not saying you have to do that, I certainly respect being EXPLICIT when it comes to the truth, but I can understand giving the minimum amount of necessary info in some cases.
 
Considering what the GOP did to the Ron Paul movement... I agree with Rick Santorum...

Although, shooting myself in the head seems like a better prospect than either of those, as does voting for Hitler...


(Hitler can't do any more damage, he's dead.)

I agree, of course, but Santorum wasn't using our reasoning. Unless you take the thought that Santorum was more conservative than Romney (he was MUCH worse). In fact I definitely would never vote for Santorum. I would have voted for Gary or Virgil or just written in Ron in that case.
 
It's not a "winner." It's just the correct position.

Correct. The right to Life is the first right of liberty. It's also right to deny abortion in the case of the "life of the mother," as Supreme Court precedent interprets the phrase legally to include "psychological life" of the mother, which results in elective abortion in most circumstances anyway (mother can legally abort on demand under the exception, because she doesn't feel like having the child).

Unless such an exception is expressly limited to physical life, as exclusively determined by a doctor, life of the mother = legal abortion under most circumstances, and this is why the exception is opposed by principled pro-lifers.
 
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The problem with being too merciless with Santorum is that the theocrats down here in the South are susceptible to someone playing the victim card. They identify with someone who's being persecuted, because they believe that they themselves are being persecuted by a world full of sinful perverts.

It's truly remarkable to see people who represent a hefty majority of the population falling all over themselves talking about how the world hates them for their faith. They're convinced of this, you see, because they're subjected to the horrendous abuse of having to be aware that homosexuals and secular people exist and live in the same state as them.

So, should Rand begin eviscerating Santorum over his record in the same manner he did to Trey Grayson, it's entirely plausible that Santorum will simply complain that the "libertarian" candidate is trashing him because he's the true Christian conservative in the race, and these goofballs will lap it up and ask for seconds.

Santorum was alright in the video in the OP. He's not a bad person, but he's not a good representative of conservatism. Santorum, despite what one may think of him, is a good man, but not a leader.

The christian persecution complex is an interesting one, because it is mostly one that was brought upon themselves. The Evangelicals were far too anti-atheist and vocal, which mobolized atheists (normally a right-wing group IMO) into being left-wing as a counter and normal functional people, regardless of religion and lack thereof, tend to be conservative by nature unless they have some sort of defect in their soul. So while atheists were falsely scapegoated, the leftists gained power, the atheists insulted by a vocal minority of faux conservatives, thus gained power too and the once-imagined attack on christianity is now real. But it is an attack they started wanting to feel important.

So in that way evangelicals are a lot like leftists. My opinion is they'd be communists in another life if they weren't told to be conservative, because both groups have the same mentality.

That's why evangelicals are like leftists: they want to form some sort of Utopia. Functional people just want to put smart people in charge.
 
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