Rand at 4% in new Monmouth Poll

[squirl22]

New poll out today ( it is an Iowa poll; sorry I left that out of headline, my bad):

Ted Cruz earns 24% support when likely caucusgoers are asked who they will support in the Republican contest. This marks a clear lead over Donald Trump (19%), Marco Rubio (17%), and Ben Carson (13%). Jeb Bush stands at 6% and Rand Paul is at 4%, while Carly Fiorina and John Kasich earn3% each. None of the other six candidates tested in the poll draws more than 2% support.

More here: http://www.monmouth.edu/assets/0/32...1087/de240398-df23-47b6-8470-91977d38b749.pdf

 

[shenmue]

It would be interesting to watch Trump and Cruz going to war

 

[Liberty74]

The race is starting to get its shake up as predicted albeit taking some time. Doubt Cruz will maintain this far out.

Expect more movers and shakers until Iowa. And let's hope Rand creeps his way up quietly by February for a big surprise. Don't need the media or talk radio doing nuclear attacks in sync like they pulled with Ron in Dec of 2011.

 

[Warlord]

Iowa and NH will go for Cruz. Trump is this years Guilani/Cain trust me. Incredibly frustrating

 

[RabbitMan]

At some point, someone will have to remark on how Cruz has no chance in a General Election.
A recent poll on RCP even had him losing to Bernie Sanders by 10 points(!!!)

But I guess Republicans just want a self-destruct button this cycle instead of meaningful change.

 

[limequat]

Expect Trump to come out hard against Cruz. In this fight, we must root for Trump to badly damage Cruz. Preferably before Iowa.

 

[fcreature]

It's probably a good thing that the Cruz surge is happening now. It was bound to at some point - at least there is still 2 months for him to plummet.

 

[limequat]

It's probably a good thing that the Cruz surge is happening now. It was bound to at some point - at least there is still 2 months for him to plummet.

Yep. Gives the Donald some time to go on the attack...as well as the media.

 

[jllundqu]

Just when are we to expect the Rand surge, then? lol

 

[Warlord]

It's probably a good thing that the Cruz surge is happening now. It was bound to at some point - at least there is still 2 months for him to plummet.

Im afraid Cruz will win it. he fits the profile of a nominee, he's an elected senator unlike the loudmouth Trump

 

[Liberty74]

Just when are we to expect the Rand surge, then? lol

If it happens you want it a few weeks prior to February. No way a Cruz wins a NH.

 

[randomname]

So the CNN poll with rand at 1% was bullshit?

 

[fcreature]

Im afraid Cruz will win it. he fits the profile of a nominee, he's an elected senator unlike the loudmouth Trump

Perhaps. Hard to say. He hasn't had to take on many attacks yet and he certainly has a huge weakness in that he is unelectable in a general. I expect him to take some hits in the next few weeks.

 

[limequat]

So the CNN poll with rand at 1% was bullshit?

No the polls are inaccurate and there is some noise.

If you watch the Reuters 5 day average Rand will shoot between 0% and 8% in a matter of days. Doesn't mean anything.

 

[nikcers]

Im afraid Cruz will win it. he fits the profile of a nominee, he's an elected senator unlike the loudmouth Trump

I'm just amazed he surged by stealing Rand Paul's foreign policy. Rand always placed himself as more interventionist then Ron Paul but less interventionist then a neocon. In the debate Ted Lose superimposed himself into the Rand Paul and Marco Rubio argument and basically started talking over Rand Paul and said he is more interventionist then Rand Paul but less interventionist then Marco Rubio who had just called Rand an isolationist. He really stole Rand Paul's foreign policy, and double downed Marco Rubio's attack on Rand that he is a isolationist.

 

[statist slayer]

Im afraid Cruz will win it. he fits the profile of a nominee, he's an elected senator unlike the loudmouth Trump

Marco Rubio is at 17% in this poll. He's in a close third in Iowa, and he's got a good shot at NH. Still putting my chips on Rubio and the establishment machine.

 

[eleganz]

Iowa and NH will go for Cruz. Trump is this years Guilani/Cain trust me. Incredibly frustrating

lmao what a silly prediction from another poll fear monger (sorry but thats what you are and thats what you're doing).

Cruz first time leading Trump in Iowa and you're already saying Cruz will take Iowa and NH, we're still almost 2 months away from Iowa.

 

[S.Shorland]

Wish the last 2 cycles' polls were still up? I remember when Ron got to 10% and I thought that was the liftoff point but it didn't happen.Trump is full of vacuous platitudes but people seem to love it.'We're going to be so strong that nobody will threaten us' but on september 28th Putin said 'we can no longer tolerate the situation in the world' and he meant it.Any cornered animal will fight and somebody will resist the American empire at some point.At least Paul has a realisable vision within the confines of lawfully applied presidential power.

 

[Todd]

No the polls are inaccurate and there is some noise.

If you watch the Reuters 5 day average Rand will shoot between 0% and 8% in a matter of days. Doesn't mean anything.

limequat...you had a really good thread on where Rand actually is polling a couple months back. Where do you think he is on average now?

 

[grizzums]

"..stealing Rand's foreign policy."

I dont believe carpet bombing was ever part of Rand's FP.