Rand at 4% in new Monmouth Poll

[derek4ever]

Right.

Cruz rising earlier the better. The longer he stayed second place, the worse the chances are for us. Peaking two months before caucus day is too early for a candidate as fickle as Cruz. Tea partiers may love him but regular GOP voters don't and he isn't electable and the media will beat him over the head with inelectability.

I hope you weren't being sarcastic. I was thinking about what type of scenario could help us in Iowa. CNN showed that Cruz said he won't attack Trump. But it will get dirty between those 2. Politics is dog-eat-dog. If Trump were running away with Iowa, it would be bad for us. Having somebody like Carson or Cruz winning Iowa and stopping part of Trump's momentum (plus hoping that Rand finishes in either second or third) isn't a bad scenario for us at all. I'm not completely in sync with the polls, but I think if Rand plays his cards at the right time, and Cruz and Trump attack each other, he has a shot at sneaking in there and winning. Difficult? You bet. But timing is everything in politics.

 

[eleganz]

I hope you weren't being sarcastic. I was thinking about what type of scenario could help us in Iowa. CNN showed that Cruz said he won't attack Trump. But it will get dirty between those 2. Politics is dog-eat-dog. If Trump were running away with Iowa, it would be bad for us. Having somebody like Carson or Cruz winning Iowa and stopping part of Trump's momentum (plus hoping that Rand finishes in either second or third) isn't a bad scenario for us at all. I'm not completely in sync with the polls, but I think if Rand plays his cards at the right time, and Cruz and Trump attack each other, he has a shot at sneaking in there and winning. Difficult? You bet. But timing is everything in politics.

Don't know what you're talking about. i thought I was agreeing with you.

 

[derek4ever]

Don't know what you're talking about. i thought I was agreeing with you.

Sorry about that! I must've misread but glad you agree with my opinion!

 

[TheNewYorker]

 

[Robrank]

So the CNN poll with rand at 1% was bullshit?

Wrong. That 1% CNN/ORC poll was a national poll. This is an Iowa poll. Anyways it still would have been in the MoE.

 

[jkob]

"electability" isn't something they can can capture in polls and if they they can then this is a much closer election than people are saying it is. Hillary has trailed in quite a few polls, her favorables are just as underwater as Trump's, for all intent's and purposes Hillary should be considered unelectable too but somebody has to win. Bernie Sanders is more electable than Hillary and Sanders is an 80 year old communist from Vermont that looks like Doc from Back to the Future, Cruz or even Trump can win this.

 

[Suzu]

I guess Republicans just want a self-destruct button this cycle instead of meaningful change.

As usual, no? I remember the losers back as far as Bob Dole.

 

[squirl22]

I also think that many are counting Bush out of this way to early. I think the social cons are going to throw their support behind Bush at the last second just as they did Santorum.

I fear that is true; Bush will not drop out he has the bucks behind him and many people in the party. They can always pull him out of the hat and give him a win.

 

[Liberty74]

Cruz is gaining ground because he panders to church people, especially around the time Carson was getting negative press for 2 weeks.

Hello!!!!! I have been saying for months to win Iowa you need to target the old and religious voters, not students. It's like 60% of the vote to 7%. But no, idiots in here can't do basic math. Just saying...

 

[Liberty74]

So the CNN poll with rand at 1% was bullshit?

One is national and one is Iowa. So no, the CNN poll is not BS.

 

[SilentBull]

Right.

Cruz rising earlier the better. The longer he stayed second place, the worse the chances are for us. Peaking two months before caucus day is too early for a candidate as fickle as Cruz. Tea partiers may love him but regular GOP voters don't and he isn't electable and the media will beat him over the head with inelectability.

I agree. I'm glad the Cruz surge is happening now.

 

[CPUd]

Hello!!!!! I have been saying for months to win Iowa you need to target the old and religious voters, not students. It's like 60% of the vote to 7%. But no, idiots in here can't do basic math. Just saying...

Most people posting in the Rand forum can do basic math. There are also 10-14 other candidates competing for that same bloc while almost no one else seriously going after young voters.

 

[supermario21]

I don't think they are using the RCP averages, but Rand is right at 4 in both Iowa and NH which should qualify him. You'd think anyways...The national polls are pretty much a disaster for everyone not named Trump, Cruz, Rubio, or Carson. Bush is down to 3.8 which is 5th, and nobody else is above 2.5.

 

[SilentBull]

I'm optimistic. I think CNN may end up using the CBS/YouGov poll, which means Rand would be in. I have no evidence of this. Just a feeling.

 

[limequat]

I'm optimistic. I think CNN may end up using the CBS/YouGov poll, which means Rand would be in. I have no evidence of this. Just a feeling.

That or a favorable NH poll that CNN puts out tomorrow.

 

[SilentBull]

That or a favorable NH poll that CNN puts out tomorrow.

Is there one coming out tomorrow?

 

[supermario21]

Carson is probably dropping out soon. He's cancelling his TV ad buys in Iowa ($343 K so far) and SC.

 

[SilentBull]

Carson is probably dropping out soon. He's cancelling his TV ad buys in Iowa ($343 K so far) and SC.

Really? Link?

 

[limequat]

Is there one coming out tomorrow?

I figure there's got to be one before the debate. Pure speculation, sorry

 

[eleganz]

If anything we should hope trump takes down Cruz.

Then we have to worry about Trump again. I am hoping Cruz has a mistress.

Why is everybody HOPING so much?

There is something much more effective than hope, and its called phone from home.

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