Ranchers vs BLM Oregon this time

[goldenequity]

 

[osan]

This is ridiculous! Installing a gate in a barbed wire fence is portrayed as $100,000.00 worth of damage....

In a world where an allen wrench cost $17K back in ca. 1984 (not a joke), $100K seems very lowball.

Militants... destroyed

The stunt... the militants'... his band of protesters ...

The militants... pluck stakes ...

militants' actions...

The militants... destroyed...

militants destroyed ...

the militants

What dog-pile "journalism". This low-rent hit piece doesn't rise to the standard of sixth-grade special-ed drivel.

Tie the author up, put a cane in my hand and I'd make him curse his whore of a mother for having opened her pestilent legs for daddy. 1/2

 

[Mach]

The Oregon Standoff is Only a Glimpse at Western Anger with the Feds

Other states have gone further. Utah—63 percent owned by the federal government—passed the Transfer of Public Lands Act demanding the surrender of federal lands to the state. Arizona's Governor Doug Ducey (R) vetoed two bills seeking the surrender of public lands but agreed to a study committee on the issue.

In April 2014, representatives from Utah, Idaho, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, Wyoming, Oregon, and Washington met in Salt Lake City to discuss prying land from the federal government, even as the Bundy standoff over grazing rights simmered in national headlines. They were fueled by concerns about not just forests, but prosperity, going up in smoke.

"The Forest Service and the Bureau of Land Management lose $2 billion each year managing federal lands," wrote Shawn Regan in the pages of The Wall Street Journal in April 2015. A former National Park Service Ranger and current research fellow at the Property and Environment Research Center (PERC) based in Bozeman, Montana, Regan added, "For example, the feds are notorious for conducting 'below-cost' timber sales, in which they spend more selling the timber than they get in return."

https://reason.com/archives/2016/01/12/the-oregon-standoff-is-only-a-glimpse-at

 

[Weston White]

Earlier yesterday, I came across a 24/7 live feed on YouTube, I think it was with Pete Santilli, he joined them up there as an Idaho III%.

That is some great reporting though by Oregon, their biggest concern is the "militants" removing--oh "destroying"--30-yards of bob-wire fencing and decades of direct collaboration, even though it was only put up last year, not that it cost taxpayers $100k.

 

[Weston White]

I think they should take the safe passage offer and go home before they get swatted by the feds. I think the idea was ill conceived from the get go with no real goal was in sight. Despite that I will admit they have succeeded, they drew attention to and raised awareness of their cause. Now end it before somebody gets hurt.

I am not against armed militias or protests. What happened at the Bundy ranch was 100% ok with me. Even some of the stands that the general public considers "extremists" like Ruby Ridge are fine with me. Randy Weaver and the Bundys at their ranch did nothing wrong. Even the Branch Dividians, though I think they were odd, did nothing wrong. This protest to me was wrong, the aggrieved parties explicitly stated they did not want this.

They are not there for the "aggrieved parties", they are there to address unconstitutional federal over reach, misappropriation of public state lands, and to end the tyranny of the BLM.

 

[Thor]

'Mericuns are so brainwashed, that they not only bad mouth this on social media, they actually spend their own money to be a dick.

http://gawker.com/angry-militia-leader-stop-mailing-us-dildos-1752580458

No one ever said it’s easy to take a stand against the federal government: it’s cold, there aren’t enough snacks, everyone is pissy, and a bunch of strangers won’t stop sending you hate mail and dicks.

Oregon militia organizer Jon Ritzheimer really, really fuckin’ hates Uncle Sam. But what he hates even more is all of the obscene and generally unhelpful emails and packages that strangers from around the country and Gawker are sending to his band of armchair commandos. In a new Facebook post and accompanying video, Ritzheimer says he’s sick of this garbage:

It’s sad that there are people who would spend this kind of money on this rather than spending it to do good in the world. I’m done living in fear of an oppressing force. I’m going to uphold my oath to the Constitution and sleep great at night knowing that I did everything in my power to ensure what our founding fathers did for us will not be lost.

https://www.facebook.com/scrappyphx.rider/videos/469856286535510

So jackholes are spending money because they have only heard what the media has told them and think it is funny to send them dildos...

Ya America!

 

[goldenequity]

►What the Oregon Standoff Is Really About

Dwight Hammond and his wife Susan bought their ranch in 1964. The Hammond ranch consists of 6,000 acres, grazing rights in four areas on public land, and rights at three separate water sources. They live in a small ranch house—a beautiful structure of stone and hand-hewn wood—on the property.

The land sits in Oregon’s Harney Basin, an area first settled at the tail end of the 19th century. While the narrative we are getting in the media depicts the ranchers as despoilers of the land, implacable enemies of the Malheur Wildlife Refuge established by Teddy Roosevelt in 1908, the true history of the region shows that the “cowboys” who lived there and ran as many as 300,000 head of cattle were in fact its best defenders. Without them, there would be no Malheur Wildlife Refuge.

EXCELLENT READ By Justin Raimondo • January 7, 2016

 

[goldenequity]

Oregon Judge Plans to Bill the Bundy Militia $70,000 a Day to Cover County Security Costs

“We’re going to send Mr. Bundy the bill,” Grasty said at a town hall meeting on Monday night, encouraging residents to let the militia dry up its own resources. “No matter how you feel, do not bring food and supplies up to the refuge.”

“There’s an hourglass, and it’s running out,” Sheriff Ward said. “Go home.”

Public schools in Harney County have finally re-opened, making it the first time the county’s students have returned to school since the occupation began on January 2nd.

U.S. Fish and Wildlife employees, whose personal information was inside the wildlife refuge and likely obtained by the Bundy gang, have been relocated for their safety.

Ammon Bundy has yet to respond to the county’s $70,000 per-day penalty.

Hate and Fear are being sold by the pound from the local podiums in the town 'meetings'...
they're more like mob rallys for crucifixion now.

Around town... there's more sympathy and education on the real issues
but they don't go to the meetings
from 'fear' of becoming local pariahs... they have to LIVE there after this comes to a close.
They're being told not to bring food to the refuge... (give no 'quarter' to the 'enemies'.)

So the 'message' is: You're a TRAITOR if you side with the protest/occupation.
(now we know how the 'Johnny Rebs' felt...)

 

[phill4paul]

Oregon Judge Plans to Bill the Bundy Militia $70,000 a Day to Cover County Security Costs

Sorry Gratzy, you can't have your cake and eat it too. Bundy is occupying the NATIONAL Wildlife Refuge HQ. You don't fucking govern it. The FED does. That's kind of Bundy's point ya jack-wagon.

 

[tod evans]

Oregon Judge Plans to Bill the Bundy Militia $70,000 a Day to Cover County Security Costs

I suppose they can tack it onto the pasture rent bill..........

Fuckin' assholes anyway.........

 

[goldenequity]

January 13 Update from Ammon Bundy

 

[youngbuck]

'Mericuns are so brainwashed, that they not only bad mouth this on social media, they actually spend their own money to be a dick.

Here is the Facebook post that Blaine Cooper posted:

https://www.facebook.com/blaine.cooper23/posts/926158497480323?pnref=story

December 31, 2015 at 9:13pm
·
ATTENTION...SHARE...ATTENTION...SHARE!!!!!!

Anyone that wants to send any supplies can send them to:

General Mail
Jon Ritzheimer or Blaine Cooper
Burns, OR 97720

We do not stand for fame or fortune. We do this for our children and for their freedom. We do this for your children and their freedom. We don't want your money. If you have supplies or snacks or anything that may be useful to this stand then please send them to the address above. There is also a donation tab at www.rogueinfidel.com

The last sentence in the Declaration of Independence reads: And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.
We make that pledge to you!

I don't understand how a package would be delivered at the above "address." Does the post office just hold it for them and they come and pick it up?

ETA: http://starvinlarry.com/2016/01/10/from-carol-bundy-how-you-can-help-the-patriots-in-oregon/

We have had many people ask where they can donate and/or send food and supplies for the Patriots in Oregon.

Food and supplies can be sent to:

36391 Sodhouse Lane
Princeton, Ore 97721
C/o shawna Cox

And
Financial donations can be sent to:
Lisa Bundy
P.O. Box 1072
Emmett, ID 83617

Or
Donate online using this link.
http://c4cf.com/

If you can provide any of the items on this list it would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Schifference]

It would have been nice to show a video of the rodents and terrible conditions of the property that Bundy describes. Saying it and seeing it are two different things.

 

[JK/SEA]

It would have been nice to show a video of the rodents and terrible conditions of the property that Bundy describes. Saying it and seeing it are two different things.

i saw it on the live stream from Santilli....rat shit everywhere. They were sweeping it up into piles. They moved equipment and assorted 'stuff' outside and cleaned the place up. Someone held up a rotted decomposed rat, and showed a rat nest on the shelving....

better arrest them for practicing sanitation without a license.

 

[goldenequity]

BREAKING: Harney County Fire Chief Resigns. FBI Caught Posing As Militia At Local Armory



BUSTED! FBI Caught recconing the Armory @ 8:30

This is good news... though it might have been better had he stayed and reported the tactics & betrayals in real time.

(supposedly) Ammon Bundy was invited to speak with Hannity.
(careful Ammon...)

 

[69360]

They are not there for the "aggrieved parties", they are there to address unconstitutional federal over reach, misappropriation of public state lands, and to end the tyranny of the BLM.

Keep telling yourself that. Bundy and the others took advantage of the situation in Oregon when they took over the building. Granted it worked out ok, but they were not invited.

 

[dannno]

Keep telling yourself that. Bundy and the others took advantage of the situation in Oregon when they took over the building. Granted it worked out ok, but they were not invited.

Dude you have been watching way too much mainstream media..

Took advantage? What exactly do you think they are getting out of this? One of my friends who is an MSM dittohead said they were acting out of selfishness.. that makes NO sense whatsoever, they are there helping the Hammond family as well as the surrounding community. They aren't doing ANYTHING to help themselves, this is an act of selfLESSness.. If SOME people in their community are too retarded to understand that they are there to help, or that the government has become tyrannical and needs to be stopped, then who cares about them? The fact is that a much larger segment of the community supports them than the media is letting on and a lot of that information is contained in this thread.

 

[kcchiefs6465]

Keep telling yourself that. Bundy and the others took advantage of the situation in Oregon when they took over the building. Granted it worked out ok, but they were not invited.

They needed an invitation?

 

[youngbuck]

Dude you have been watching way too much mainstream media..

Took advantage? What exactly do you think they are getting out of this? One of my friends who is an MSM dittohead said they were acting out of selfishness.. that makes NO sense whatsoever, they are there helping the Hammond family as well as the surrounding community. They aren't doing ANYTHING to help themselves, this is an act of selfLESSness.. If SOME people in their community are too retarded to understand that they are there too help, or that the government has become tyrannical and needs to be stopped, then who cares about them? The fact is that a much larger segment of the community supports them than the media is letting on and a lot of that information is contained in this thread.

Well put.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to dannno again.

 

[Ender]

Well put.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to dannno again.

Agreed and done.