Ranchers vs BLM Oregon this time

[osan]

No.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/stooge



http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/stooge


http://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/stooge


http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/stooge


http://www.thefreedictionary.com/stooge

No no no... I am surprised at you. Here we have what are real stooges. Three of them, in fact:

What are they teaching you youngins these days?

 

[Weston White]

Didn't all the government's "officials" say the "anti-government" terrorists have zero support and that everybody just wants them to go away?

Approximately twenty local protesters gathered to voice their opposition against law enforcement actions related to the Malheur Wildlife Refuge occupation on Friday.

 

[osan]

God, how I miss Aaron Russo. He was so, so good at rallying the troops, getting us to coordinate mass emails to the media, which forced them to respond. At the time, when he was alive, (circa '06 - '07) we were trying to get Fox to acknowledge Dr. Paul because they were completely ignoring him. We succeeded. After that, he started getting more news coverage and we finally started hearing more debates about "Constitutional law". Before that time, no pundit ever mentioned the Constitution. Ron changed all that.

Then there's stories like the battle of Athens, TN., where the local people overthrew their local government.

I think the solution lies somewhere within these two actions.

But with every passing new outrage, that envelope narrows toward the latter.

 

[osan]

Didn't all the government's "officials" say the "anti-government" terrorists have zero support and that everybody just wants them to go away?

Approximately twenty local protesters gathered to voice their opposition against law enforcement actions related to the Malheur Wildlife Refuge occupation on Friday.

As if Theye could give the least damn about such gestures.

It astounds me how people cling to nonsense, even unto their own destruction.

We are well past the less extreme measures for correcting that which needs correction.

Firstly, the nation as a sufficiently proportioned subset of the whole has no basis for moving forward. At the very least, we need to have in hand a strong understanding of the principles of proper human relations. We do not. Without it, we can fight and "win", but where will that leave us? Nowhere good.

Secondly, as such a population we need to adopt the correct attitude for being free men living among our fellows. We have not. We still know precious little about minding our own damned business.

Thirdly, we have to understand that no circumstance likely to become real will shake loose the minds of the remaining population from their self-willed idiocy. We do not.

Finally, we need to recognize that, given point the third, it is approaching impossibility to deliver this land into a state of freedom through the normal channels that would yet succeed, were the critical mass of will to do so in evidence, which it is not.

This leaves material action, starting with mass civil disobedience and most likely leading to open warfare. That is the hand we have dealt ourselves and for which we should all be in full rue for our woeful failure in responsibility to ourselves and our fellows.

We can banter all day in the world of theory and fairy dust. But when one breaks out their inner statistician, it becomes evident that what is required for imbuing the land with freedom cannot by any practical means be counted upon to become real. The time for working within the so-called "system" is well past us because the vast majority of those whose responsibility it is to make things happen (that would be "the people") do not even believe there is a problem. Furthermore, they perceive those around them who see the trouble as being mentally unsound, fit for being ignored at the very least, caged and killed at the other extreme.

I repeat unto nausea that we are now almost certainly being corralled into a dichotomous choice: lay down and surrender, or fight to the death. I have no basis for surmising that Theye would allow anything else or that the people of America are going to suddenly feel the hand of God's enlightenment upon their brows and adopt a sane position on the scheme of life in this nation and take the more gentle Constitutional paths toward those ends. That leaves the narrow path of live action. The sooner people accept this, the less likely our already marginal chances for success will be further diminished.

There is no peaceful solution on the practical horizon, so far as I can see.

 

[pcosmar]

No, his naivete got taken advantage of.

Actually,, there was an open transparency.. an honesty,, that was taken advantage of..

They wanted open and recorded conversations,, dishonest people used that against them.

Anything you say, Can and WILL,,, be used against you.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

As you pointed out, there are many definitions of the word, and whether he was unwittingly tricked, or a paid accomplice, in either regard he can correctly be defined as being a stooge. Some may even argue he was part of a comedy routine.

So yes.

They all said the same fkng thing. "I don't care how wrong I am, I am still going to insist that I'm right until the day I die because my freaking ego is too sensitive to take correction." SMDH

 

[erowe1]

So Santilli was the rat, or stooge, eh?

I don't know. It seems to me that the whole group was confused about what they wanted to accomplish. I thought that they wanted to be open about what they were up to and face the repercussions that were bound to arise publicly. It wasn't the sort of thing that would have any purpose if done in secret. I don't really see any plan here that had some way of leading to a positive outcome, unless allowing themselves to become victims of federal injustice while keeping themselves above reproach was it. But to do that, they couldn't approach it as people who have anything to hide about what they're doing.

 

[phill4paul]

They all said the same fkng thing. "I don't care how wrong I am, I am still going to insist that I'm right until the day I die because my freaking ego is too sensitive to take correction." SMDH

He's a freaking Thunder-god, dude. Afford him a bit of leniency. Now both y'all shaddup.

 

[pcosmar]

So Santilli was the rat, or stooge, eh?

No. He was a journalist.. He was documenting the event.

That transparency and honesty were tools for the FEDs , and that should give a clue about who you are disparaging.. and who you are therefore supporting.

And this is something I have not seen addressed by any.

since when is the arrest of a journalist acceptable? freedom of the press something, something?

 

[PRB]

No. He was a journalist.. He was documenting the event.

That transparency and honesty were tools for the FEDs , and that should give a clue about who you are disparaging.. and who you are therefore supporting.

And this is something I have not seen addressed by any.

since when is the arrest of a journalist acceptable? freedom of the press something, something?

After NDAA, everybody is a terrrrrist unless proven otherwise.

 

[Thor]

No no no... I am surprised at you. Here we have what are real stooges. Three of them, in fact:

What are they teaching you youngins these days?

Thanks. Glad not everyone is nitpicking and there is still some common sense around here...