Ranchers vs BLM Oregon this time

I'm starting to change my mind on wanting a 'local' settlement.
Like saying the Boston Tea Party should be settled by the Boston city council or something.


Right.. who wants the revolution fought in their own backyard? Not many...

Well, tough nuggets. They are paying taxes to fund these leaches too and haven't done anything else to stop them.

If they are fighting a true injustice, then the community should be supportive. If not, I don't have much sympathy for said community to begin with. Though it does seem much of the community supports them a lot more than the media is letting on.
 
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Click the LIVE link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC_EO5eBG94
then..
1. Change your setting to 144P or 240P
2. Drag the Cue to the beginning and start w/ the Press Conf.

3. Amazing intel coming from another embedded III percent reporter (not Santelli): (right at the beginning)
like...
A COMMON LAW Judge is en route w/ several US Federal Marshalls who are ON TARGET
with the Constitutional issues at hand...

Wow...
Listen for yourself.

Here's the link.. don't listen 'LIVE'... listen to what's
been recorded from beginning at low rez.

Then skip around...
 
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"There are local ranchers (now educated) that are unilaterally
going to be terminating their contracts with the BLM
and are give constructive NOTICE to the US Government that they
will once again begin to ranch their ranches using their original rights...
their generational/grandfathered resource rights." -- Ammon Bundy

@ 43:20
"We have video evidence regarding the 2006 fire at the Hammond ranch
being set by the BLM and have 2 eyewitnesses willing to testify... and that
this evidence WAS PRESENTED to the prosecuting Federal Attorney... ignored...
and NOT presented to the Defense attorneys as required by law"

@ 57:00

Press witnesses BLM block fence being demolished
and a gate installed allowing a local Rancher to now
graze the land and bring his ranch back to prosperity.

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Now that the livefeed has been uploaded here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC_EO5eBG94

You can find the above episodes... but the time slots will be different.
 
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Thanks for the updates goldenequity.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to goldenequity again.
 
I think the people that took down that fence are susceptible to fines for not waring hard hat and or safety glasses.
 
Thank you all for the attaboys :)
I don't really know how that all works yet on RPF
but I see the notifications so I will figure out how to thank back.
It makes me feel welcome being a PopLiberty refugee!!! Family again :)
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I haven't got this 'wired' yet but here's what I'm working from:
from another thread I started on GLP...

You can get in on nightly Intel briefs using this app...
https://zello.com/

SPECIAL INTEL BRIEF
Intel Brief is being moved up 30 min this evening.
2100 HeadCount in on III% SECURITY FORCE
Password is 0341.
We will be speaking with Joker J and Wesley Vance who at the Resource Center in Oregon

This would (I think) allow us to 'listen in' on the III Percenter Intel Briefings/Discussion being broadcast by them..

I haven't downloaded the app and began to hunt down the broadcasts yet... maybe tonight.
Feel free to help me unscramble this puzzle... let us know if you get somewhere w/ it.
 
Where did you get that info? I found the "III% SECURITY FORCE" channel on zello, but it mostly sounds like a bunch of rednecks and hillbillies rambling on and cursing left and right. Are you sure that's the channel, because there are a few other III% channels. Also, none of them that I've seen require a password as of yet (perhaps that will change for the 21:00 intel brief).
 
Where did you get that info? I found the "III% SECURITY FORCE" channel on zello, but it mostly sounds like a bunch of rednecks and hillbillies rambling on and cursing left and right. Are you sure that's the channel, because there are a few other III% channels. Also, none of them that I've seen require a password as of yet (perhaps that will change for the 21:00 intel brief).
It was posted to a GLP thread for info/intel.
Thanks 4 checking it out YB... if there is anything of value let me know/thx for checking..
 
It was posted to a GLP thread for info/intel.
Thanks 4 checking it out YB... if there is anything of value let me know/thx for checking..
There is no intel brief on that channel. And searching for relevant channels on zello reveals nothing. Nevertheless, thanks for the info.
 
This is ridiculous! Installing a gate in a barbed wire fence is portrayed as $100,000.00 worth of damage....



Oregon standoff: Bundy, militants destroy fence at federal refuge

http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/01/oregon_standoff_bundy_militant.html


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Militants presiding over an armed occupation of a federal bird sanctuary destroyed a portion of a fence Monday afternoon that they said was installed by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service – using the agency's own equipment.

The stunt was perhaps the militants' boldest yet since overtaking the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge earlier this month. Arizona businessman Ammon Bundy and his band of protesters traveled about five miles south of refuge headquarters to a property where they said a local ranching family grazes cattle.

Bundy, son of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, said the Fish and Wildlife Service used a $100,000 grant to install the fence last year, preventing the family's 600 cattle from grazing on nearby public land.

"This will help them out, being able to run their ranch like they have in the past," Bundy said. The militants had permission from the family to destroy the fence, he added. "They actually showed us where they wanted it," Bundy said.

The militants removed barbed wire – Bundy with only his bare hands – and then used an excavator adorned with the Fish and Wildlife Service's logo to pluck stakes (metal T-posts) out of the ground. The group included Bundy's brother Ryan, Jon Ritzheimer, Ryan Payne, Blaine Cooper, Jason Patrick and Robert "LaVoy" Finicum.

"That's all that's needed for cows to go through," Finicum announced after the work was done. The militants removed about 25 or 30 yards of fence.

The Fish and Wildlife Service condemned the militants' actions in a written statement.

"In the century of [the] Malheur National Wildlife Refuge's existence, enormous effort has been displayed by partners, surrounding communities, ranchers and landowners to restore a devastated landscape," the statement reads. "Removing fences, damaging any refuge property, or unauthorized use of equipment would be additional unlawful actions by the illegal occupiers. Any movement of cattle onto the refuge or other activities that are not specifically authorized by [the Fish and Wildlife Service] constitutes trespassing.

"If they take down the fences, it hurts the refuge, but it also destroys the positive conservation impacts reaped from decades of direct collaboration and sweat equity paid by the Harney County (and surrounding) communities, ranchers, landowners, partners and friends."

The militants have advocated for the federal government to hand over public land in Harney County to local ranchers. The protesters destroyed the fence after Bundy announced in a morning press conference that they plan to continue the occupation until Harney County ranchers Dwight Hammond Jr. and his son, Steven, are free from federal prison.

The Hammonds were imprisoned last week after a judge ruled that they hadn't served long enough sentences for setting fires that spread to public land.

The Hammonds do not own the property where the militants destroyed the fence, Bundy said. It is not the same fence, Bundy said, that sparked a dispute between the Hammonds and the federal government in 1994.

Bundy seemed confident that the group's actions wouldn't result in any immediate response from law enforcement officials, who have remained low-profile and have adopted a "wait-them-out" approach to the situation.

"I don't think they want to do anything," Bundy said. "I think there's a lot of good people in the federal government who feel the same way as us."

Payne said the militants plan similar actions in the future.
 
Oregon standoff: Bundy, militants destroy fence at federal refuge

[...]

Militants presiding over an armed occupation [...]

The stunt was perhaps the militants' boldest yet [...]

Ammon Bundy and his band of protesters militants [...]

The militants had permission from the family [...]

The militants removed barbed wire [...]

The militants removed about 25 or 30 yards of fence [...]

The Fish and Wildlife Service condemned the militants' actions [...]

The militants have advocated [...]

The protesters militants destroyed [...]

The Hammonds do not own the property where the militants destroyed the fence [...]

Payne said the militants plan similar actions in the future.

There are a couple of glaringly obvious mistakes in this story. Very sloppy work. I fixed it for them, though ...
 
January 12 Update from Ammon Bundy & 'The Fence'



Below is a good dialog regarding the Constitutional pivot (Article 1 Section 8 Clause 17)
upon which Bundy et al are standing, i.e. the Federal Gov't cannot 'own' the Wildlife Refuge land.

 
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Anna von Reitz
January 7 at 12:41am ·



A Reply to Stewart Rhode's Recommended Honorable Exit Strategy For Ammon Bundy From Judge Anna

This is certainly a principled argument that speaks well of Stewart Rhodes and his approach to self-government at the local level.

In our system of things, the true power stays with the individual who delegates to the county who delegates to the state who delegates to the federal government.

Not the other way around.

It is true that the local people have got to have the cajones to take a stand and until they do, you can lead a horse to water, but can't make him drink.

You can prove that their property rights are being violated by thugs----commercial mercenaries acting under color of law----and you can offer to stand with them, but until they find the courage and conviction to free themselves, nobody else can do that for them. All that is perfectly true.

However, there is a bone to pick with the Oathkeepers as an organization and with Stewart Rhodes; I have already picked it once and I shall pick it again. It does not remain for any one small group of people to determine whether our Constitution and our Law of the Land is respected or not.

That kind of thinking leads to "sanctuary cities" and armed bands of thugs holding mountain passes and robbing travelers while claiming that is okay because that is the "law" of Harney County.

Counties do not have the power to declare their own laws about everything. One of the things they do not have power to self-declare is to declare our national Organic Laws void in Harney County just because the people are too ignorant or too scared to stand up for them.

And anyone who is an Oathkeeper, including the leader of the Oathkeepers, should know that.

We are absolutely required to uphold our Organic Laws or our nation will be fractured like a crystal vase on a tile floor, cut up piecemeal and carted away. Divide and conquer and ignorance and wrong-thinking will set in and Americans will be reduced to arguing among themselves as we have argued for too many years already,

While we are wondering whether we have the right to assert jurisdiction over the land in Harney County when it is violated by federal agencies, those agencies given an inch will take ten miles, and take our seeming complacency as license to take more. When it comes to the Federales overreaching on any parcel of land anywhere in America,, it is a matter impacting all Americans from Florida to---- dare I say it? ----Alaska.

The Declaration of Independence and The Constitution for the united States of America are Organic Laws of the entire nation. We are all required to uphold them at all times and everywhere. That includes Harney County. When the "federal agencies" overreach themselves, it is our right AND our responsibility to oppose them in no uncertain terms. If the people of Harney County fail that sacred duty, the rest of us must not.

I never advocate bloodshed and I would not advocate that any of these brave men on either side of the firing line sacrifice their lives over a "misunderstanding".

The fact is that the "Federal Government" ---including its for-hire corporate subcontractor agencies--- has no right to claim any land within the borders of the organic states and never has had. The fact that we have allowed this to go on in the western states for over a hundred years is a national scandal of mismanagement, misrepresentation, and malfeasance. The resolution of the political status of these states and the formal release of their property is long, long overdue.

The Federales have mistaken our long-suffering of the matter as acquiescence. We allowed the Federales to arbitrarily declare "National Parks" because we thought it was good to set aside glorious places for future generations--- and it is; unfortunately, there is absolutely no lawful basis for it. We allowed the Federales to build massive Hydropower projects like the Hoover Dam, because we agreed that we needed electrical power; unfortunately, there is precious little excuse for that, either.

These and other acts have served over time to blur the hard line between where "Federal" duties and prerogatives begin and end, and have allowed a constant, slow, but increasingly terrifying usurpation of common sense and an equally profound overreach of government at all levels agains the private and public property rights of the people all across the nation.

It has gotten to the point where the Federales "assume" that they have rights that they don't have, that they have property interests that don't belong to them, and that they don't have to obey the Public Law or the Organic Law, either. We've let them get away with it so long that three generations have grown up, lived and died, since they were reminded forcefully of who they are and who we are.

Well, folks, it is time.

The good people of Harney County are sitting on a gold mine that has absolutely nothing to do with migratory bird habitat. They are sitting on a vast fortune of minerals and water that the Federales want. So they are moving in like the thugs they have become with a veritable army of hired commercial mercenaries masquerading as "FBI" agents long after the FBI has ceased to be a lawful unit of our government--- but still "trading" upon our images of J.Edgar Hoover nonetheless---- and they are bullying and proposing to steal land from innocent people and to jail them when they resist.

Let it be noted that the "crime" the Hammonds are accused of--- setting a backfire that damaged some property--- is routinely excused when any "agency" of the government does the same thing. Now, doesn't it seem a little bit crazy that the owners of the land are charged with a "crime" and jailed when their hired help does the same thing and skates away scot clean?

Wake up, Stewart Rhodes! Wake up Harney County! Daylight in the swamps!

We've notified the House Oversight Subcommittee--- the derelicts responsible for holding purse-strings over out of control "federal agencies"--- that they are liable for a commercial obligation lien of 200 billion ounces of fine silver per American killed by any "federal personnel" and we have the means at our disposal to make that lien stick like iron. So, boys, the "odds" are not really that hard to take. The first FBI agent that fires a shot and kills an American is going to be fried back home and not in butter. This whole land and resource grab by the BLM is about money and the "Federal Corporation" is going to take it in the shorts if they foment any range wars in Harney County.

They will also be facing international war crimes charges to use the phrase from the Nuremburg Trials ----for "criminal aggression". Our Sheriffs are beginning to wake up. It's only a matter of time before the rest of the "law enforcement" agencies jerk awake---- and then the hunters will become the hunted, and the Bounty Hunter provisions of the vaunted 14th Amendment will spring to life.

Read it, Federales, and read it well. These are your rules, not ours, and they are still in effect. Just today I had a jackdaw from the passport agency lecture me about the 14th Amendment and I had to tell him that the 14th Amendment never applied to any American, ever. And still doesn't. But my point here tonight to all of you who can read, is that the 14th Amendment DOES apply to all federal employees, including agency subcontractors.

Judge Anna Maria Riezinger
 
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Judge Anna Maria Riezinger...
Is she the 'Common Law Judge' that was being brought in to the 'Center'?
It was also said that 'several' US Marshalls were coming along with 'the Judge'.
 
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