Ranchers vs BLM Oregon this time

[JK/SEA]

Most of us here are not consequentialists, we operate on principle.

ok.

the jury is still out regardless.

 

[JK/SEA]

Indeed I do, but most of the time it doesn't include doing things for people that they don't want for their own good per my opinion.

you're sure about that?...

i'm not.

 

[Origanalist]

you're sure about that?...

i'm not.

Nobody's perfect, I'm open to examples.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Indeed I do, but most of the time it doesn't include doing things for people that they don't want for their own good per my opinion.

Unless they are your children or your pets, then “doing things for people that they don't want for their own good” shouldn't even be considered an option.

 

[UWDude]

Does anybody else find it interesting this BLM thing has the same name as another BLM thing that most people at this government siege would probably hate?

It's like Hussein Obama and Osama and Saddam Hussein. It's eerie.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Does anybody else find it interesting this BLM thing has the same name as another BLM thing that most people at this government siege would probably hate?

It's like Hussein Obama and Osama and Saddam Hussein. It's eerie.

Yeah, I have noticed that. The antagonism goes both ways too. Honestly though, I think the #BlackLivesMatter crowd is more likely to hate the Bundys than the Bundys are to hate the #BlackLivesMatter crowd.

 

[Schifference]

I would think the attorney for the Hammond's are pleased that the Hammond's distanced themselves from the group and are not upset that the situation is getting attention. I would bet that the attorney couldn't have it any better.

 

[UWDude]

Yeah, I have noticed that. The antagonism goes both ways too. Honestly though, I think the #BlackLivesMatter crowd is more likely to hate the Bundys than the Bundys are to hate the #BlackLivesMatter crowd.

Maybe, maybe not. I don't think #BLM is very fond of CIA and FBI, NSA and DEA if you get right down to it. I would venture to guess the racist elements in both, relish the idea of the other getting blown to bits.

My friend asked me if this was it, the right wing revolution I was talking about for years now. I said, "nope, there will be no great event".

I don't think this will turn to much, honestly.

 

[Schifference]

Gunny, your enthusiasm and dedication for what you believe is sincerely commendable! You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to GunnyFreedom again.

 

[Pericles]

so the Bundy mission wasn't Constitutional...lots of wiggle room and subjective ideals at play...

It wasn't and one of the reasons at least one Texas militia would not go.

 

[Origanalist]

Maybe, maybe not. I don't think #BLM is very fond of CIA and FBI, NSA and DEA if you get right down to it. I would venture to guess the racist elements in both, relish the idea of the other getting blown to bits.

My friend asked me if this was it, the right wing revolution I was talking about for years now. I said, "nope, there will be no great event".

I don't think this will turn to much, honestly.

The venom on both sides is sickening to behold, divide and conquer is alive and well.

 

[Uriel999]

no mercy eh?...pretty sure you don't know all of whats going on behind the scene, and neither do i, but my conscience says the Hammonds need help whether they know it or not...lots of stuff to figure out, but its getting more clear the average patriot can't count on the miltia and their white horses for much of anything at this time.

But the Hammonds are not allowed their opinion. Because, emotions.

Let's bomb some FREEDOM into Oregon. They will surely view us as liberators.

 

[Deborah K]

Yeah, I have noticed that. The antagonism goes both ways too. Honestly though, I think the #BlackLivesMatter crowd is more likely to hate the Bundys than the Bundys are to hate the #BlackLivesMatter crowd.

And that's because, if you'll recall, tptb and their propagandist media machine successfully managed to vilify Bundy as a racist. In so doing, they ruined the support he was gaining and ultimately marginalized him.

 

[Deborah K]

I think Ammon Bundy is sincere enough. His man Payne though may be a fedgov stooge.

Payne was outed. What is Ammon thinking?? http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...t-a-Ranger!!&p=5522352&viewfull=1#post5522352

 

[erowe1]

Does anybody else find it interesting this BLM thing has the same name as another BLM thing that most people at this government siege would probably hate?

It's like Hussein Obama and Osama and Saddam Hussein. It's eerie.

There's no reason at all that they should hate Black Lives Matter, and I hope they don't. There are so many obvious reasons that they should be natural allies. Whatever it is that stands in the way of building that alliance, we need to get past it.

 

[Origanalist]

Payne was outed. What is Ammon thinking?? http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...t-a-Ranger!!&p=5522352&viewfull=1#post5522352

Makes you wonder.

 

[Dr.3D]

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[Origanalist]

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Did you get lost Doc?

 

[Dr.3D]

Did you get lost Doc?

Yeah, too many tabs open at the same time.

 

[Valli6]

Finally some decent media coverage on Lou Dobbs show!

Lou Dobb just did a couple segments on the Hammonds on the Fox Business channel.
First and only proper mainstream coverage I've seen yet!

Dobbs is real pissed - says they're persecuting the two ranchers, ridiculous to charge them as terrorists, and the US attorney that re-sentenced them is "beneath contempt". Apparently the jury was not made aware that they were trying the ranchers on terrorism charges? He's asking "Where's Oregon's congressional delegation?" "Why isn't anyone standing up for these ranchers?" and quoting Madison.

Also interviewed John O'Keefe who is the head of the Oregon Cattleman's Association. All agree the Bundy's shouldn't be doing what they're doing.

Guys, at this point I have to say, I don't think this story would be getting covered at all in my part of the country if the Bundy's hadn't done something conspicuous. I live in the east, and we have no concept of how ranching works out there in the wide open spaces. Too easy to fool us! I only know what I know about it now, because I read what you all say and then did some research.