Ranchers vs BLM Oregon this time

[Dianne]

Major event. Can't do much from my home but pray for the safety of those who are making a stand against the out of control tyranny.

That's the way I feel, but I'm too far away as well. If not, I would be there.

 

[youngbuck]

Domestic Terrorists!

Not sure if you're being sarcastic, but if you're not then you ought to watch this (thanks for posting tod evans):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7M0mG6HUyk

 

[donnay]

I agree. For those who are supportive of this, what good do you expect to come of it?

It's better to stand for something or continue to fall for anything.

 

[Dianne]

I agree. For those who are supportive of this, what good do you expect to come of it?

Occupying that little Federal building is being referred to as trespassing. Let the Federal Government be reminded, the building and the land belong to the people. The Federal Government owns nothing. It is our building and our land. The Congress and the White House are the same as all other welfare recipients who suck tax dollars out of the people so they may survive.

 

[erowe1]

It's better to stand for something or continue to fall for anything.

What's that supposed to mean? And how does it answer my question?

It seems obvious to me that if there's no hope or plan for actually accomplishing anything good here, then it would be better not to take over that federal building. What steps come between doing this and achieving whatever the end goals are, and how reasonable is it to think these people can take those steps? If all their ducks are really in a row and they have a well-planned answer to that then great. But if not, then they'll just do more harm than good.

 

[erowe1]

Occupying that little Federal building is being referred to as trespassing. Let the Federal Government be reminded, the building and the land belong to the people. The Federal Government owns nothing. It is our building and our land. The Congress and the White House are the same as all other welfare recipients who suck tax dollars out of the people so they may survive.

That's it? Let the federal government be reminded of that? And then pack up and go home after reminding them of it?

 

[Dianne]

If the black kids had guns pointed they would not be shot at, either.

As I said in my above post- the burnings improved THE LAND- BUT THE PICS AND PROOF WERE NOT ALLOWED IN COURT. BML burns the lands constantly and these fires have spread to private land- but hey they are gov so they can do what they want.

The neighbor behind me has a farm, and every couple of years he burns the ground. There is some benefit to doing so. I have no clue what it is, but seems to be fairly common. That's probably why the feds have now changed the story from burning the land, to covering up a deer poaching operation.

 

[Dianne]

Ammon Bundy should mind his own business, and the Hammonds
were convicted of arson on Federal Land.
This place has been a wildlife refuge since 1935.
Events such as this give a bad name to real freedom movements
and militias.
Our constitution provides for the protection and setting aside
of wild areas for conservation purposes.
We are welcome to some degree on these lands but are not
welcome to poach or burn it.
I suspect that the Hammonds and/or Ammon Bundy have an agenda
which is not what it seems.
Nobody should support these criminals.

The proper course is to cordon them off and allow them to starve
until they leave peaceably and prosecute them legally for wasting
resources and disrupting the peace.

The Federal Government owns absolutely nothing. We the people own the Federal buildings, Federal land. The Feds don't have a pot to piss in. They serve as caretakers of our property only.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Good for them.

At least somebody is doing something.

 

[Dianne]

That's it? Let the federal government be reminded of that? And then pack up and go home after reminding them of it?

Yes. It's the people's land, not Obamas.

 

[roho76]

Who's the aggressor, Angela? I think you're confused, sweet heart. I can't imagine what your thoughts are on the American Revolution and who was the aggressor in that scenario. One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter. Just not sure who's side you're on.

 

[donnay]

The neighbor behind me has a farm, and every couple of years he burns the ground. There is some benefit to doing so. I have no clue what it is, but seems to be fairly common. That's probably why the feds have now changed the story from burning the land, to covering up a deer poaching operation.

The benefits are putting minerals back into the ground, i.e.; potassium. It will also make soil more alkaline if too acidic.

 

[erowe1]

Good for them.

At least somebody is doing something.

Is that really smart? Somebody do something. It doesn't matter what it is, as long as somebody is doing something?

 

[erowe1]

Yes. It's the people's land, not Obamas.

OK. Then now that they've accomplished what you said, why do you suppose they haven't all gone back home?

 

[tod evans]

Is that really smart? Somebody do something. It doesn't matter what it is, as long as somebody is doing something?

Standing up to a greater power isn't generally labeled as being "smart".....

At least not by those who aren't sick-n-tired of said power yet........

 

[erowe1]

Standing up to a greater power isn't generally labeled as being "smart".....

At least not by those who aren't sick-n-tired of said power yet........

Even for those who are sick and tired of it, what makes it smart?

It's not enough just to do something. It matters what is done.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Is that really smart? Somebody do something. It doesn't matter what it is, as long as somebody is doing something?

Haven't you got a voting booth that needs some hardening?

 

[Anti Federalist]

Is that really smart? Somebody do something. It doesn't matter what it is, as long as somebody is doing something?

Haven't you got a voting booth that needs some hardening?

 

[TheNewYorker]

Good news, the FBI is involved now

 

[pcosmar]

Even for those who are sick and tired of it, what makes it smart?

It's not enough just to do something. It matters what is done.

It draws attention upon the Federal Beast.

What form the response the Beast will make is yet unknown.
Usually,, and historically, it is violent.

How people respond to that violence, is yet to be seen.
The Beast was backed down once.. and it remembers.