Radical Salafist terror attack in NY on Halloween

[Swordsmyth]

Most of the southern border and even more of the northern boarder is wide open. Ever seen the "border" of North Dakota with Canada? There are some neat posts every so many yards with "Canada" written on one side and "USA" written on the other side. There's no way you can ever "secure" this country. Why not just let the movement towards arming the people take care of any imagined problem? There's no way "terrorism" can be a problem if everyone is armed...

We should arm our citizens and bring the boys back home to patrol the borders.

 

[Danke]

Wrong in both cases. Yes, there would be deaths in each case but there would be fewer of them. If the bubba's in Vegas had their high powered deer rifles in their car they could have (and would have) returned fire. Would they hit him? Maybe not. Would they hit innocent bystanders? There's a chance some people might get hit in that tower (if that's really where most of the shots came from). On the bike path anyone with a gun could have stopped this guy.

Now how do you say that weapons are not the answer again?

I think in both cases an RPG would've been better to defend yourself and others.

 

[bunklocoempire]

The msm cable newz cordially invites you to a non-stop feargasm.

The powers that be encourage you to continue to worship the idea of an unshackled government, an idea of a government that has once again failed to provide anything but an over-priced reaction.

 

[oyarde]

Can't be. Almost everyone on TV and radio said that he was a "lone wolf". He came up with this all by himself.

The conspirator has a handle of Mukhhammadzoir Kadirov ,believed to be in the US , a friend , sought by FBI for questioning of his prior knowledge of the plan . Anyway , I am pretty sure he is not midwestern .

 

[Brian4Liberty]

"Iran is the largest exporter of terror"

Perfect neocon-speak, comrade! Don't forget that he visited North Korea and also had a personal meeting with Putin. We can't say that it was Russia, but the evidence is so overwhelming that there is no doubt.

/s

 

[phill4paul]

I think in both cases an RPG would've been better to defend yourself and others.

But, then how could we laud a "hero cop" that took down a bad guy with a paintball and pellet gun?

 

[bunklocoempire]

Radicalized by empire. People lose their lives.

Empire's solution to this?

Empire Strong

And all the people go "YAY! More of that!"

 

[euphemia]

Do some reading about forced marriages. It's not just about controlling who sneaks over the border, it's about protecting the process and the people.

 

[ChristianAnarchist]

Do some reading about forced marriages. It's not just about controlling who sneaks over the border, it's about protecting the process and the people.

I don't care about forced marriages. This is not in the realm of "goonerment". If you have someone living near you and they are abusing some woman step in and help her out. Don't ask for me to give up my liberty and property to allay your fears... I'm sick of collectivism...

 

[kahless]

I don't care about forced marriages. This is not in the realm of "goonerment". If you have someone living near you and they are abusing some woman step in and help her out. Don't ask for me to give up my liberty and property to allay your fears... I'm sick of collectivism...

You will care about their belief system when the people coming here outnumber you and yours, at that point you will be living under their collectivist form of government whether you like it or not.

 

[otherone]

A weapon is not always the answer. There is no weapon that would have helped in Las Vegas, and no weapon that would have helped people caught unaware on a pedestrian and bike path yesterday. At some point the liberty of American citizens has to be considered higher than some guy who has been training for jihad over in Iraq or whatever.

What does this mean?

 

[kcchiefs6465]

What does this mean?

Isn’t it obvious?

Freedom v. security.

Many would prefer to feel secure than to be free.

 

[otherone]

Isn’t it obvious?

Freedom v. security.

Many would prefer to feel secure than to be free.

But she wrote "liberty": At some point the liberty of American citizens has to be considered higher

 

[kcchiefs6465]

But she wrote "liberty": At some point the liberty of American citizens has to be considered higher

It’s a Brave New World.

Liberty isn’t being free, it’s being alive- i.e safe.

 

[kahless]

Isn’t it obvious?

Freedom v. security.

Many would prefer to feel secure than to be free.

I read the last two posts and it makes me wonder if the terrorist had an RPF account.

How is it making a logical decision to not import jihadists that want to kill us mean we want less freedom?

 

[otherone]

I read the last two posts and it makes me wonder if the terrorist had an RPF account.

How is it making a logical decision to not import jihadists that want to kill us mean we want less freedom?

How does not wanting to be killed have anything to do with protecting your liberty?

 

[Mikezelot]

Capitalism is the only solution. He lived here for 7 years and without looking into I would bet he had no job.

A lot harder for someone to be involved in this when they work 40 hours a week.

Consumerism > isis

 

[kahless]

Capitalism is the only solution. He lived here for 7 years and without looking into I would bet he had no job.

A lot harder for someone to be involved in this when they work 40 hours a week.

Consumerism > isis

Reports say he had worked as a commercial truck driver, ran a trucking business and then ended up at Uber for the last 6 months making 1400 trips.

 

[AZJoe]

‘This is sick’! NYT columnist HAMMERED after spinning NYC attack as win for gun control
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2017...r-spinning-nyc-attack-as-win-for-gun-control/

OMG on the irrational madness of some people. The idiot thinks "but for NYC's gun control, Saipov would have killed more."
Because mass murdering Saipov (who is not even a NYC resident) is such a law abiding citizen he would certainly obey the NYC ordinance.
Its more like - but for NYC's victim disarmament policy, Saipov would not have been able to keep running over so many pedestrians and bikers.

 

[Mikezelot]

Reports say he had worked as a commercial truck driver, ran a trucking business and then ended up at Uber for the last 6 months making 1400 trips.

I stand corrected