R U dedicated to saving America? Or do you just run your mouth?

tbrambo

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I was not planning on going to D.C. on the 15th for the Tax Day Rally. I figured it would be better to wait until Dr. Paul gave a date and go then.


But, I just heard Linda Hunnicutt on Ron Paul Revolution Radio. She said something that struck me very much. She was talking about the 2 different kinds of Ron Paul supporters. There's the people who are willing to do a lot on the internet, and talk a lot of talk about supporting Ron Paul, but they are not willing to actually engage in public for it. Then there are the supporters like herself, and most of us on here, that are willing to sacrifice time and money and sleep and so on...


So basically we have the people who are sold-out %100. The people who've taken the "Red Pill" and can not go back to drifting through life as if they were asleep. Then there's the people who are about 50% dedicated. They will do some things. They will give some time, when it's not too inconvenient, but when it comes down to making real sacrifices they do not see the need to do so.


For the 50% dedicated supporter its all just about Ron Paul. But for the 100% dedicated supporter it is NOT about Ron Paul. It's about freedom. It's about his message. So, as I was thinking about which one I was, I saw myself as being more like the 50% supporter. I didn't want to join The Granny Warrior on the 15th because I figured:


A) There would not be as many people there.
B) It would not be worth it for the money and time spent.
C) It was too big an inconvenience.


I realized that I was thinking a lot like those people who say "I would vote for Ron Paul but he can't win". If everyone who said that had voted for him he'd be doing A LOT better right? Same in this situation.


Here is an old woman who has taken the initiative to organize a rally as one of many last ditch efforts to save America from becoming a police state and tyrannical world empire. She understands that we are RUNNING OUT OF TIME! We must act now, in bold ways! It is situations like this, which tell us how dedicated we are. Are we dedicated enough to go up to Washington on the 15th and then AGAIN in the summer with Dr. Paul? Are we dedicated enough to do even MORE than that? Well, I'm trying to be that dedicated. I'm trying to walk the walk. This is my future that's on the line. I have a county that's hanging in the balance, so I see no point in fighting only at 50%.


I'm going to D.C. on April 15th AND in the summer - - Is anyone else?
 
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Well I definitly have taken the Red Pill and I am un-able to go back now. Durning the superbowl night I was out walking putting up Ron Paul signs over my town. About 20 miles and 3 hours, I hope that puts me in the 100% Ron Paul supporter catagory. :)

I will also be in DC.
 
I would guess that most on here are ... the sell out type (sorry, if not most a good number are.) Don't get me wrong, there are some real supporters here.

There is a 3rd Type of RP supporter, they are the fringe people that have NO IDEA what RP stands for, yet they are cultish about him, because in their delusion they believe he supports their abnormal views.
 
I would guess that most on here are ... the sell out type (sorry, if not most a good number are.) Don't get me wrong, there are some real supporters here.

There is a 3rd Type of RP supporter, they are the fringe people that have NO IDEA what RP stands for, yet they are cultish about him, because in their delusion they believe he supports their abnormal views.


But the point is it's NOT about Ron Paul......so once again....are you guys just going to make up excuses about why you can't go to multiple rallies or are you going to GET IT DONE!

We must go to WASHINGTON! THAT is how we get noticed. We must get IN THEIR FACE. MANY TIMES OVER. One rally is NOT going to do it. One march is NOT going to make them listen.

If we are truly dedicated we must plan on going to Washington many many times from now on.....
 
You can't categorize people into 2 or 3 groups.

I wont be going to the april 15th, not because I don't want to (I do), but because I can't.

I have finals that week, one the week before and one after that week. Not only that, I just can't afford it, I'm strapped for money right now and need time to save up.

Even so, the 21st of june seems like an awesome day to stir things up.
 
You can't categorize people into 2 or 3 groups.

I wont be going to the april 15th, not because I don't want to (I do), but because I can't.

I have finals that week, one the week before and one after that week. Not only that, I just can't afford it, I'm strapped for money right now and need time to save up.

Even so, the 21st of june seems like an awesome day to stir things up.

"I have generally found that a man who is good at manufacturing excuses is good at nothing else." - Benjamin Franklin


I use that quote not to bring you down, but to reiterate my point.... there will always be excuses. I don't have a job right now, and am probably WAY more strapped for money than you(just guessing of course). But I'm going

"The Republic was not established by cowards; and cowards will not preserve it ... This will remain the land of the free only so long as it is the home of the brave." --Elmer Davis
 
Not having enough money is a legitimate excuse. Ben Franklin was speaking in context to wealthy privileged land owners who made up illegitimate excuses not to fight the revolution. All effort is welcome, even if it is just speaking the truth to a neighbor.
 
These are legit reasons for not being able to go, both for me and many other people.

I'm not about to go on a rant about my financial situation, but I assure you, I literally would be completely broke after driving 20 miles.

If I could go without borrowing money and without missing my exams I would go. I would go in a second, this is however not currently possible.

If I can manage to change my exam schedule (unlikely) and get enough money (also unlikely) by april 15th, I could go and therefore would go.

I hold liberty above everything else, however, I'm not willing to sacrifice my economic well being to go to both events, doing this will rob me of my ability to continue supporting freedom.

I am fully comitted to going in June and bringing as many people as I can.

I find your quotes directed toward me downright insulting, this really pissed me off. You'll likely still believe I'm just making excuses or being cowardly. That's fine, but you might want to start focusing your efforts and passion toward people who don't understand Liberty and Freedom rather than insulting me for "not doing enough and making excuses".
 
Not having enough money is a damn good excuse when it's true. I have about $50, anyone want to give me a job? Money? No? Fine. Then let me continue on with my job search...

Don't insult the people who can't go because you'll end up turning them off even when they can go. Be considerate and understanding. You reap what you sow, and right now I see a lot of people sowing seeds of division. :(
 
Way too many citizens here in Missouri who need to be awakened... too much work to do here at the state level to consider a visit to Washington DC. I might consider heading south to a big rally in Texas to support the ranchers and land owners in the Nafta Highway shamboozala.

My revolution resume....

Our best effort yet to educate our neighbors....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URTvgfnh1pM

Bill Clinton gets a face full of Ron Paul signs....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvznnt2aCjE

Rudy gets a warm Missouri welcome...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5E7Qk9Fa9c

-Ramblin Randy
 
Don't insult the people who can't go because you'll end up turning them off even when they can go. Be considerate and understanding. You reap what you sow, and right now I see a lot of people sowing seeds of division. :(

I was thinking this same thing, when I was typing up my post and also realized that by posting what I did was further producing this sort of division. I don't think it's anyhting to be concerned about though, when push comes to shove, the message can and will always bring us together. This has been shown time and time again.

"The freedom message brings us together; it doesn't divide us.” - Ron Paul

I doubt tbrambo or myself or any of us would ever stand on opposite sides over little things like this.

These kind of debates are a healthy and necessary part of the revolution.
 
dedication is different for everyone

I respect your opinion and you most definitely have the dedication but I disagree with your statement above. I for one can't go to the protest on 4/15 and i don't think that makes me any less dedicated than you are. I was a precinct captain and not only did I canvas my precinct but I did 6 others and took 4 days off from work to canvas full time the last few days before the election here in Florida, I am getting evolved and starting to attend my county GOP meetings to help bring the GOP back to it's roots, so does all that make me less dedicated because I can't go to the rally on the 4/15?


everyone ones situation is different and a lot of people do talk and do nothing and some of us do what we can. I have one friend who has 3 kids and works 2 jobs, he loves Ron Paul but the only thing he can do is financial support DR.Paul because he has to put family and work first. I'm sure there are a lot of poeple who do the best they can with what they have.

I know this rally was planned before ron paul and the campaign came up with the idea, but what bothers me the most is that the granny warrior's are trying to get a piggy back ride on this ant-tax rally and trying to promote it as the march/rally for the revolution, it was Dr.Pauls Idea not the granny's so lets wait on him and the campaign even though they could do a better job in letting us know what is going on and how much progress has been made. We all know the college kids have done and sacrificed a lot for the revolution , so to not keep them in mind when making a date is very disrespectful to them, if a lot of them have finals that week why would the granny's try to push this date? Not cool!

Ron Paul said this would be risky and now I see why, if you people can afford to go to both then thats great, but don't try and make people feel bad if they can't afford to go to both. I hope the campaign comes up with a date soon, so all this confusion and maddness can stop!! the whole point of this rally/march is show our numbers, and if half go on 4/15 and the other half on what ever date the campaign sets the numbers will be weak and not impress or scare anyone, the point is to show the powers that be and the media how united we are and to show them how large this movement has become and that won't happen if we are divided.

We need Ron Paul supporters of all levels to make this march a success not just the ones who are hard core supporters and not only ron paul supporters but lets get kucinich and gravel supporters on broad too!! if we are not going to have HUGE turn out then it's a waste of time and money because we are doing this for the world to hear our voices, not just so we can talk and impress ourselves.


e-mail the campaign and give your ideas and tell them to HURRY and get a date already!

[email protected]
 
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...protest on 4/15 ... can't go ... granny warrior's ... college kids ... granny's ... Not cool!

Why are you always trying to stir up trouble about this "march"? Some people will be able to go some will not. It will be that way no matter when the march is. I just don't see why there is so much grannywarrior bashing.
 
what ever man

Why are you always trying to stir up trouble about this "march"? Some people will be able to go some will not. It will be that way no matter when the march is. I just don't see why there is so much grannywarrior bashing.

yeah I'm causing trouble by giving my opinion, what the hell do you think forums are for? just for everyone to agree on everything or to have open discussions and and friendly debate? like I'm the only one who who feels that way. you think it's cool to have 2 rallys then good for you, I'm still going to speak my mind, so get over it.
 
Not having enough money is a damn good excuse when it's true. I have about $50, anyone want to give me a job? Money? No? Fine. Then let me continue on with my job search...

Don't insult the people who can't go because you'll end up turning them off even when they can go. Be considerate and understanding. You reap what you sow, and right now I see a lot of people sowing seeds of division. :(

Well put, I guess I'm not a "real" Ron Paul supporter since I cant make it. Although I canvassed for miles sick as a dog and walked home with blisters on my feet.
 
actually the 100% are the people who are doing it all for Ron Paul since they are cultists.
 

"I have generally found that a man who is good at manufacturing excuses is good at nothing else." - Benjamin Franklin


I use that quote not to bring you down, but to reiterate my point.... there will always be excuses. I don't have a job right now, and am probably WAY more strapped for money than you(just guessing of course). But I'm going

"The Republic was not established by cowards; and cowards will not preserve it ... This will remain the land of the free only so long as it is the home of the brave." --Elmer Davis
oh i get it now. your saying that because i have a child, and i'm a single parent, that i'm only good at manufacturing excuses and i'm a coward because i will only attend the march that RON PAUL sets up?

That's a big F*** U! :mad::mad::mad:
 
I hung up 100 Ron Paul signs and distributed at least 5000 Ron Paul flyers, so I think I qualify as one who walks the talk, but there's no way in hell I'm going to be able to make two trips to DC. I live on the west coast.
 
oh i get it now. your saying that because i have a child, and i'm a single parent, that i'm only good at manufacturing excuses and i'm a coward because i will only attend the march that RON PAUL sets up?

That's a big F*** U! :mad::mad::mad:

Yeah...I've got a lot of shit going on in my life too. Don't act like your the only one who's got responsibilities. You don't know me....You don't know that my situation might be worse than yours!!!! :mad::mad:

Like I said. THERE ARE ALWAYS EXCUSES!!!

We are in a fight to save our county. Just the other day our government basically merged our military with Canadas. So in the event of a "domestic" emergency Canada can come down here and subject us, citizens of the United States, to martial law!!!!!!

THAT'S BULL SHIT! WAKE UP!!! WHAT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON HERE! STOP MAKING EXCUSES ABOUT WHY YOU CAN'T DO THINGS FOR THIS MOVEMENT!!!
 
you make me laugh dude. i've worked my ass off since the day i knew ron had an exploritory commitee together. and as far as knowing whats going on in this country, i've been looking into and keeping an eye on that for the better part of 5 yrs now, so dont pretend to look down on me.

i wont be taking part in a march/rally done by the 'granny warriors' just for them to be able to snub their noses at the nat'l campaign. I'm supporting Ron Paul, and the message that he is bringing, so I will be at the march/rally that he announces.
 
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