Putin The Guilty

[pcosmar]

This is the way the world works. Always has, always will. Every set of rules, ethics, and morality, is mere veneer over this indisputable fact.

The Error of Nimrod

being the Mighty Leader,, or following such. The rule of Men.

it is error.

 

[TheTexan]

If by "might makes right" one merely means (positively) that "might ends up getting its way", then (like the operation of gravity) it is certainly true that that is "the way the world works". But by itself, that is just a trite truism - and a circular, question-begging one at that (since, if one fails to get one's way for whatever reasons, one can, ipso facto, simply be deemed to have been insufficiently "mighty").

But if by "might makes right" one means (normatively) that "might" is justified in whatever it does merely because it was "mighty" enough to get its way, then that, too, is just a "mere veneer" of a "set of rules, ethics, and morality", with nothing more to recommend it than any other.

Indeed, it has even less to recommend it than any other. As true as it may be in a positive sense (and as necessary as it is for any set of rules, ethics, and morality to recognize and adequately account for that truth), it is by itself of no use as a guide to one's actions (or to one's responses to the actions of others). Like all species of "pure" utilitarianism, it can address only questions of means, but not of the ends to which those means are applied. Outside of any "set of rules, ethics, and morality" that accounts for it (but does not merely reduce to it), "might makes right" is just an expression of sterile and pointless nihilism.

ETA / IOW / TL;DR: "rightness" has to be "mighty", but "mightiness" does not make "rightness" (i.e., might does not make right).

Figuratively and positively, and perhaps normatively, my post was not worthy of such a substantive reply.

 

[ClaytonB]

The Error of Nimrod

being the Mighty Leader,, or following such. The rule of Men.

it is error.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to pcosmar again.



"Everyone is but a breath, even those who seem secure." (Psalm 39:5b)

 

[Occam's Banana]

Figuratively and positively, and perhaps normatively, my post was not worthy of such a substantive reply.

I think I'm still in self-indulgently verbose mode ...

 

[acptulsa]

I think I'm still in self-indulgently verbose mode ...

Balderdash.

 

[BSWPaulsen]

If by "might makes right" one merely means (positively) that "might ends up getting its way", then (like the operation of gravity) it is certainly true that that is "the way the world works". But by itself, that is just a trite truism - and a circular, question-begging one at that (since, if one fails to get one's way for whatever reasons, one can, ipso facto, simply be deemed to have been insufficiently "mighty").

But if by "might makes right" one means (normatively) that "might" is justified in whatever it does merely because it was "mighty" enough to get its way, then that, too, is just a "mere veneer" of a "set of rules, ethics, and morality", with nothing more to recommend it than any other.

Indeed, it has even less to recommend it than any other. As true as it may be in a positive sense (and as necessary as it is for any set of rules, ethics, and morality to recognize and adequately account for that truth), it is by itself of no use as a guide to one's actions (or to one's responses to the actions of others). Like all species of "pure" utilitarianism, it can address only questions of means, but not of the ends to which those means are applied. Outside of any "set of rules, ethics, and morality" that accounts for it (but does not merely reduce to it), "might makes right" is just an expression of sterile and pointless nihilism.

ETA / IOW / TL;DR: "rightness" has to be "mighty", but "mightiness" does not make "rightness" (i.e., might does not make right).

The way you phrased it at the end is both laconic and good.

 

[Occam's Banana]

ETA / IOW / TL;DR: "rightness" has to be "mighty", but "mightiness" does not make "rightness" (i.e., might does not make right).

The way you phrased it at the end is both laconic and good.

cf. e.g. Augustus Caesar vs. Joseph Stalin #antisesquipedalianism

 

[BSWPaulsen]

cf. e.g. Augustus Caesar vs. Joseph Stalin #antisesquipedalianism

I would have positive repped you for your efforts throughout the thread, but someone will have to cover for me. I appreciate your elaboration on the finer details of the discussion, but I really like when someone excellently distills the essence of a point into a few words. You are impressively skilled.

It would actually be a shame if you did not activate your "self-indulgently verbose mode". You are one of the posters that makes lurking here an enjoyable experience.

 

[vita3]

The World needs a true HERO

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv_WW...-gkC93x7XNe2cqKRK4oPhbtHOxrEmLZcghhnN5TcDVjpU

 

[osan]

*shrug* You explicitly requested positive criteria that did not involve normative considerations:

So I did. I stand publicly asshole-ified, hoisted by my own petard... or is it retard?

I see this is a job for Preparation-H!

PS: I can only guess at what it was I was thinking at the time.​

 

[TheCount]

He has secured Nuclear Facilities that the Azov Battalion had Threatened to use.

The power plants? What was the Azov Battalion going to do with them?

You drank all the kool-aid.

 

[pcosmar]

PS: I can only guess at what it was I was thinking at the time.[/INDENT]

Years of Of Preparation.

 

[pcosmar]

The power plants? What was the Azov Battalion going to do with them?

You drank all the kool-aid.

Turn then into another Chernobyl.
The Azov punks had one already under attack when the Russians secured it.

it was in the 'news".

 

[pcosmar]

The power plants? What was the Azov Battalion going to do with them?

You drank all the kool-aid.

The Azov Battalion is a bunch of Nazi Punks,,that need to be eliminated from the Earth.

Why do you oppose Russia doing so?

 

[pcosmar]

[MENTION=58229]TheCount[/MENTION] supports Nazis.

and all they do,

 

[TheCount]

Turn then into another Chernobyl.
The Azov punks had one already under attack when the Russians secured it.

it was in the 'news".

The Azov Battalion was going to chernobyl themselves?

 

[TheCount]

@TheCount supports Nazis.

and all they do,

Putin gives medals to Nazis.

 

[pcosmar]

Putin gives medals to Nazis.

I am fine with giving High Speed Metal to Nazis.

 

[vita3]

We trained Nazi’s

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnMBC2QS-Hk

 

[pcosmar]

We trained Nazi’s

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnMBC2QS-Hk

Yup.
https://www.sott.net/article/465419...ne-as-US-floods-Russias-neighbor-with-weapons